yungmack Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Then you take geno and shore up the qb position for years........best case scenario IMO Two questions: 1 - Have you watched a lot of games with Geno Smith? 2 - Have you watched a lot of games with other leading QBs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Two questions: 1 - Have you watched a lot of games with Geno Smith? 2 - Have you watched a lot of games with other leading QBs? I hold his position and can answer yes to both questions. Opinions are opinions, dude. Pro scouts have differences of opinion, too. One person's red flag is another person's coachable room for improvement. One person's history of success is another's definition of weak competition. One person's excuse of a bad team surrounding the player is another's view that the player isn't elite and can't elevate his team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in San Diego Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 My only issue with a Nassib pick would be the fact that Marrone and Nassib weren't exactly burning up the college ranks as a top 20 team. But they did have success I believe with an 8-5 record with a tough non big east schedule. Not sure how this pair will translate to the NFL. How good was the team around him really? Was the OL any good? RB's? Wr's? TE's? Put him with better team mates and let's see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Two questions: 1 - Have you watched a lot of games with Geno Smith? 2 - Have you watched a lot of games with other leading QBs? Yes and he is light years ahead of every other qb in this draft IMO. He has that NFL accuracy. Highest completion percentage of all 40tds vs 6 ints? IIRC? Nothing not too like........the "nassib-heads" keep going to the one bowl game......Geno wasn't all that but 200 yards 2 tds isn't exactly turrrrrrrrble either. If Geno is there at 8 it's a no brainer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 In an ideal world, I would want to take the best defensive talent available at #8 and then trade back up to the late 1st round and take Nassib there. The problem you have there is that you may not find a partner to trade up with. I just can't justify taking Nassib at #8. Yes and he is light years ahead of every other qb in this draft IMO. He has that NFL accuracy. Highest completion percentage of all 40tds vs 6 ints? IIRC? Nothing not too like........the "nassib-heads" keep going to the one bowl game......Geno wasn't all that but 200 yards 2 tds isn't exactly turrrrrrrrble either. If Geno is there at 8 it's a no brainer. Without a doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Yes and he is light years ahead of every other qb in this draft IMO. He has that NFL accuracy. Highest completion percentage of all 40tds vs 6 ints? IIRC? Nothing not too like........the "nassib-heads" keep going to the one bowl game......Geno wasn't all that but 200 yards 2 tds isn't exactly turrrrrrrrble either. If Geno is there at 8 it's a no brainer. WVU was down 26-7 with 5 minutes left in the 3rd Q when Geno threw his 2nd TD pass--- his stats were not great in that game, but a lot of them were accrued arguably in garbage time. Having said that, I wouldn't hate drafting him, even at 8. His brains, accuracy and athleticism are all big pluses. But there are plenty of question marks, and his Pinstripe Bowl performance didn't answer them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 WVU was down 26-7 with 5 minutes left in the 3rd Q when Geno threw his 2nd TD pass--- his stats were not great in that game, but a lot of them were accrued arguably in garbage time. Having said that, I wouldn't hate drafting him, even at 8. His brains, accuracy and athleticism are all big pluses. But there are plenty of question marks, and his Pinstripe Bowl performance didn't answer them. Or you could argue that when their only hope to stay in the game was to score fast with the passing game, he succeeded. Point taken, though. I think Cuse had a better game plan and the WVU defense had no answer for Syracuse (which is no surprise - they had no answer for anybody all season). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 (edited) Please dont give Rex any ideas. He might do this because we just stole a damn good DC from the Jets. Shhhhh lol IF I felt very strongly that a kid COULD NOT play at the next level, I'd do everything in my power to make sure my divisional rival drafted him HIGH. I'd feign interest in that player for the sole purpose of getting my rivals to to bite the hook. While they're wasting time on some fool's-gold recruit, My organization would be bearing down on the mother lode. We need a QB. That's a fact. However drafting the wrong prospect could set this team back another five years. Take your time Buddy. -Think this thing through. Edited January 20, 2013 by #34fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 (edited) IF I felt very strongly that a kid COULD NOT play at the next level, I'd do everything in my power to make sure my divisional rival drafted him HIGH. I'd feign interest in that player for the sole purpose of getting my rivals to to bite the hook. While they're wasting time on some fool's-gold recruit, My organization would be bearing down on the mother lode. We need a QB. That's a fact. However drafting the wrong prospect could set this team back another five years. Take your time Buddy. -Think this thing through. True. OR they don't necessarily think he has what it takes to be a #1 pick in the league but they genuinely like him and want him to get drafted to help the kid, and to help the Syracuse program with recruiting. I personally think they genuinely love the guy as a player, and think he will just get better and better, but that is just a hunch. Edited January 20, 2013 by Kelly the Dog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wagon Circler Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 How much attention would this guy be getting if we HADN'T just hired his head coach? Having said that, I would grab him in the third round. In the first two rounds, thewre are much better prospects out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cåblelady Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 #NassibToBuffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RU Serious Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 #NassibToBuffalo I BILLIEVE if u do lady!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cåblelady Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Sweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bufcomments Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 My only issue with a Nassib pick would be the fact that Marrone and Nassib weren't exactly burning up the college ranks as a top 20 team. But they did have success I believe with an 8-5 record with a tough non big east schedule. Not sure how this pair will translate to the NFL. ok say if by some dumb luck Geno Smith falls to us. He has to learn Hackett's system and ofcourse he will have a learning curve. Nassib will hit the ground running because he already knows the system . If the Marrone thinks the kid can handle the pressure of coming in and playing right away and they don't like any other QB as much as Nassib then draft the kid. The thing that I like the most is Nassib would already have a strong running game to help him out. I just think after watching some youtube vids on him he could do just as well as Tannehill did last year . Maybe even better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 ok say if by some dumb luck Geno Smith falls to us. He has to learn Hackett's system and ofcourse he will have a learning curve. Nassib will hit the ground running because he already knows the system . If the Marrone thinks the kid can handle the pressure of coming in and playing right away and they don't like any other QB as much as Nassib then draft the kid. The thing that I like the most is Nassib would already have a strong running game to help him out. I just think after watching some youtube vids on him he could do just as well as Tannehill did last year . Maybe even better. To which I say, so what. You didn't see Carroll take Mark Sanchez, and he waited for a true franchise guy to come around this season. Do you think he regrets that decision? Your system will only take you so far. A great QB will take you further. If they grade out Geno far better than Nassib -- and I do, by at least a round -- and still take the path of least resistance, shame on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 ok say if by some dumb luck Geno Smith falls to us. He has to learn Hackett's system and ofcourse he will have a learning curve. Nassib will hit the ground running because he already knows the system . If the Marrone thinks the kid can handle the pressure of coming in and playing right away and they don't like any other QB as much as Nassib then draft the kid. The thing that I like the most is Nassib would already have a strong running game to help him out. I just think after watching some youtube vids on him he could do just as well as Tannehill did last year . Maybe even better. I don't understand this reasoning at all. If you draft a QB in the top 10 you are thinking that guy is going to be your franchise QB for 10 years. His rookie contract will be for 5 years. The advantage that Nassib has over other QBs will disappear within a year if they are any good, or if he is not as good as other guys. There is not a good reason whatsoever to draft Nassib because he is familiar with the offense. IF all things are equal, then it could put him over the top. If you think Geno Smith is better than Nassib as an NFL QB prospect overall, you take Geno (or anyone else you think is better). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAWNDO Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Lets see what happens during the pre draft process. I have a feeling he will be climbing the draft boards because of his strong arm and the fact he did improve throughout the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris in Syracuse Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 (edited) Every mock I see and none have him anywhere near the first round. You don't take a guy because he knows an offense you take the best long term skill set available. I like him but only in the second round. Barkeley, Smith, Wilson and Glennon will go in the first but that is it. Edited January 20, 2013 by Chris in Syracuse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAWNDO Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Every mock I see and none have him anywhere near the first round. You don't take a guy because he knows an offense you take the best long term skill set available. I like him but only in the second round. Barkeley, Smith, Wilson and Glennon will go in the first but that is it. I realize its Bleacher Report but check this out...http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1482995-2013-nfl-mock-draft-latest-projections-after-divisional-playoffs/page/9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 yup Chris there is absolutely no way you know who is going in the 1st round at this point..... why do fans do this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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