xsoldier54 Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 again, my initial impression of marrone is that he is an idiot. i hope i'm wrong, but i have a feeling he might become the most hated coach in recent history. that's saying something. And this is based on what exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThurmasThoman Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 How can this be 6 years ago?? JP Losman was our QB when this happened. The crushing weight of time passing and our inability to stall it, ya know, sucks. why does life go exponentially faster every year that you get older? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkKelso'sHelmet Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 (edited) And this is based on what exactly? hearing him speak. do you know what an impression is? feelings, hunches, impressions, etc., don't have to be qualified, otherwise they would be arguments. i'm not making an argument. good lord. Edited January 24, 2013 by MarkKelso'sHelmet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webster Guy Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 Its what my english teacher used to call a weasel phrase. It can be remedied only by someone's spouse or very close friend because the way to break it is to have the person interrupt you EVERY time you say "ya know" and say "NO, I DONT KNOW". Its super annoying and can only be tolerated by someone in private that you really care about otherwise you'll want to kill them. But it works. My best friend got me to stop saying ALLS (as in all's I know is we better make the playoffs) by interrupting me every time. Once the weasel word or phrase is pointed out it makes you conscious of how often you say it and the brain does the rest. President Kennedy reportedly had his chief of staff interrupt him every time he said ahhhhhh in between thoughts when he spoke (a la Obama, Dole etc) I guess it worked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 We keep out doing ourselves with these coaches. Never a dull monent though Ya know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey D Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 hearing him speak. do you know what an impression is? feelings, hunches, impressions, etc., don't have to be qualified, otherwise they would be arguments. i'm not making an argument. good lord. I think the question is why do you have that impression given that lots of people who know him well speak highly of him. Saying someone is an idiot without elaboration is not really helpful to the reader. But I guess you are now saying that he is not very bright (a/k/a "idiot") based on the way he speaks, which isn't much but it is something I suppose. Like George W. Bush? Did you think Gailey was a brain surgeon based soley on the way he speaks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hater Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 Why is this a Topic? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj3iNxZ8Dww You Know I'd do Her Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simpleman Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 Why is this a Topic? You Know I'd do Her Of course we would do her, but would we actually say that if in order to do her, we first had to spend a whole day listening to her before we got to do her? That is the real question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsoldier54 Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 hearing him speak. do you know what an impression is? feelings, hunches, impressions, etc., don't have to be qualified, otherwise they would be arguments. i'm not making an argument. good lord. Right, you're stating your opinion. Opinions are usually based on something. What specifically did he say that makes you believe that he is not an intelligent guy? Listening to his interviews, my opinion is the exact opposite of yours. He seems to give well thought out answers to questions and his introductory press conference to me seemed better than, for example Trestman's in Chicago, so I am curious what makes you feel that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills Fan since '64 Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 This "Ya Know" epidemic is not just a younger guy thing. Right you are. More than 30 years ago, Keith Olbermann was tracking this when he was still a sportscaster. Mike Easler was the reigning champ in 1980. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1123776/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 I used a similar method to break a coworker from habitually saying, "okay." Now she stutters. Ha! I laughed out loud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 Right you are. More than 30 years ago, Keith Olbermann was tracking this when he was still a sportscaster. Mike Easler was the reigning champ in 1980. http://sportsillustr...23776/index.htm Hilarious. It's gotten even worse since 1980 since it has spread to the general population in every facet of society far beyond the realm of athletics. I even hear foreigners use "You know" in this manner. Rather egregious IMO when it's overused, but an occasional use of the term doesn't bother me at all. Ha! I laughed out loud. I did too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mousetrap08 Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 again, my initial impression of marrone is that he is an idiot. i hope i'm wrong, but i have a feeling he might become the most hated coach in recent history. that's saying something. Like the old saying goes It takes one to know one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RkFast Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 Why is this a Topic? Becuase we are Bills fans and if we dont have some mindless thing to nitpick at....(headsets, headbands, gloves, cereal, speech ticks) its not fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Guy on the Bench Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 Right, you're stating your opinion. Opinions are usually based on something. What specifically did he say that makes you believe that he is not an intelligent guy? Listening to his interviews, my opinion is the exact opposite of yours. He seems to give well thought out answers to questions and his introductory press conference to me seemed better than, for example Trestman's in Chicago, so I am curious what makes you feel that way. Sadly, I had the same impression as MarkKelso. I liked everything I heard and read about Marone and was comfortable with his background, but since listening to him (pc, interview, speech he gave when he signed on to the Orange) I've been anxiously trying to convince myself that he must be smarter than he sounds. I had the same feeling with Gregg Williams and to a slightly lesser extent with Mularkey. I think it's based on a few things: answering questions with vague generalities, not responding to the main point of a question (even if it is to deflect it), sentences that are slightly tortured syntactically, reliance on a kind of cliched bluster. Now everyone has said that Marone is actually bright and detailed in his analysis of a team, etc., so I'm hoping this impression is nothing more than my own bias. I just know when I've had this feeling before, no matter how much I've tried to talk myself out of it, the coach hasn't worked out. I think almost all of the best coaches are pretty well spoken. The reverse, of course, is not true. Many well spoken people are not great coaches. I thought Chan was actually pretty articulate (despite the heat he took for his accent). On the optimistic side, for me, Pettine sounded super smart, and Hackett reasonably so. Just my two cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDD Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 I still would In a heartbeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsoldier54 Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 Sadly, I had the same impression as MarkKelso. I liked everything I heard and read about Marone and was comfortable with his background, but since listening to him (pc, interview, speech he gave when he signed on to the Orange) I've been anxiously trying to convince myself that he must be smarter than he sounds. I had the same feeling with Gregg Williams and to a slightly lesser extent with Mularkey. I think it's based on a few things: answering questions with vague generalities, not responding to the main point of a question (even if it is to deflect it), sentences that are slightly tortured syntactically, reliance on a kind of cliched bluster. Now everyone has said that Marone is actually bright and detailed in his analysis of a team, etc., so I'm hoping this impression is nothing more than my own bias. I just know when I've had this feeling before, no matter how much I've tried to talk myself out of it, the coach hasn't worked out. I think almost all of the best coaches are pretty well spoken. The reverse, of course, is not true. Many well spoken people are not great coaches. I thought Chan was actually pretty articulate (despite the heat he took for his accent). On the optimistic side, for me, Pettine sounded super smart, and Hackett reasonably so. Just my two cents. Well I guess it's true that everyone's perceptions if the same events can be markedly different. I thought Marrone came off as much more seasoned than Pettine. I'm sure that both are good football men or they wouldn't have made it this far. Time will tell and I'm hoping that I'm right on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26TrapDraw Posted January 24, 2013 Author Share Posted January 24, 2013 Where do you watch Bills games in LV? I go to Moondoggies on Arville an DI Used to go to Johnny's and a few times to moondoggies but I live in Sacramento now moved 2 yrs ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 FWIW, Belichick is a horrible speaker. Some guys just aren't comfortable in front of a microphone. The fact anyone purports to have an inkling of how successful Marrone will or won't be based upon some speech patterns they picked up is just slightly silly -- ya know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungmack Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 Here are two speaking tics that drive me a little bit nuts: First, an old time one that still goes around: "Like I was saying" when you haven't yet said whatever it is you're referring to And a current one: Starting answers or comments with "So, " This one is epidemic paricularly among twenty and thirty somethings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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