Simon Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Ever is a wide range. You may be correct; perhaps I should have added a qualifier such as "yet". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just in Atlanta Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 And boom goes the dynamite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Problem is, espn used to have those aspirations and hired the personnel to match it about 20 years ago. Then they transitioned to the reality tv/scandalous talk show producers in their most recent hiring cycle. It went from reporting the news to creating the news. Being the self proclaimed world wide leader, it's certainly trickled down all over the industry. While ESPN ladles on the shlock like no other (wait, there still is not other...), but I think they break more stories than any other national outlet. Anyway, not sure why anyone would be so disappointed in the quality of....sports journalism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsCelticsAngelsBama Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 (edited) I think that's the point... if I can't count on an Adam Shefter source, who is 95% certain to even be in the ballpark (Reid never even interviewed with the Cards) than how can I trust any of his speculation. Its the throw it all and then take credit for the stories that stick approach. That's 5 % that he won't be hired. So the report is accurate So you say there's a chance ! Edited January 3, 2013 by MOVALLEYRANDY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 You can't have a sensible conversation on this subject when people can't distinguish between reporters vs columnists, "the press" vs a media outlet, a story vs a tweet, and a dozen or so other important distinctions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 You can't have a sensible conversation on this subject when people can't distinguish between reporters vs columnists, "the press" vs a media outlet, a story vs a tweet, and a dozen or so other important distinctions. What's tough is I think a lot of the editors at the top struggle mightily with maintaining those distinctions too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Your absolutely right, been saying this for years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 I think that's the point... if I can't count on an Adam Shefter source, who is 95% certain to even be in the ballpark (Reid never even interviewed with the Cards) than how can I trust any of his speculation. Its the throw it all and then take credit for the stories that stick approach. Actually, they were going to interview him but canceled when they got wind of his pending deal with KC, per ESPN. /thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just in Atlanta Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 You can't have a sensible conversation on this subject when people can't distinguish between reporters vs columnists, "the press" vs a media outlet, a story vs a tweet, and a dozen or so other important distinctions. When a columnist reports news, he's a reporter--the reader still expects him to get his facts straight. When a reporter tweets something, it's still news. The medium doesn't, or at least shouldn't, matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 When a columnist reports news, he's a reporter--the reader still expects him to get his facts straight. When a reporter tweets something, it's still news. The medium doesn't, or at least shouldn't, matter. which is why you can't have a conversation about it. Some people still think that words on the internet are somehow different from words on paper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Its absolutely amazing that these "respected" NFL writers are wrong as often as they are and still deemed "respected". The age of twitter has turned these guys from journalists into rumor mongers trying to scoop the other writers by throwing every guess they have at the wall (twitter wall) as a guarantee or near guarantee. Jason La Canfora, and Adam Shefter really take the cake. I'll give ONE example and you guys can fill in some others. The big report 2 days ago was Reid to the Cards- Done Deal! Yesterday- Talking to Chiefs first, Today- Going to Chiefs, Count on it! I have ABSOLUTELY NO faith in reports that Wisenhut is the Bills first choice and is the "leading candidate". Its just another guess so that someone can say "I said it first". I want to separate John Warrow and Tim Graham from this conversation. They have avoided making ridiculous guesses have only reported what they know to be true. I'm glad to see they still take their roles seriously. Exactly to your point: @BNHarrington Didn't ESPN say it as gospel that Reid was going to Arizona? Oops. I'm with @salmaiorana. Too much rumor these days passing as journalism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 It's not just sports journalists. Look at the Sandy Hook coverage. There was so much misinformation it was emberassing. What happened to fact checking? They reported Lanza's mother worked at the school for hours when it was not true. Everyone wants to break the story truth be damned... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 (edited) When a columnist reports news, he's a reporter--the reader still expects him to get his facts straight. When a reporter tweets something, it's still news. The medium doesn't, or at least shouldn't, matter. which is why you can't have a conversation about it. Some people still think that words on the internet are somehow different from words on paper. The medium doesn't matter quite as much as things like whether "the news" is from a rumor mill, a blog post, a passed along rumor, from a "source", from an "inside source", etc. The tendency is for lots of people to treat these things as the same thing. Reading comprehension is not the strong suit of most of the general public. Edited January 5, 2013 by San Jose Bills Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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