vegas55 Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 The media critics in particular (none of whom played football at anything higher than high school level and the vast majority of whom never watch game film) blasted Chan's play selection against Houston, and assured us that Texan defensive plan showed the league the blueprint on how to stop Chans offense. In particular, they ridiculed Chans statement that running the ball into the teeth of the Texans would be counterproductive, that the spread offense gave the offense it's best chance. "Chan just doesn't get it, you gotta keep running the ball" was the consensus. Chan sticks to his offense and the result is an offensive explosion against Pats. In fact Chans offense has produced plenty of points this year; look at the point production overall. Certainly enough offense has been produced this year to produce a winning record. It's the D that's the problem Better yet, critics, look at Texans v Bears game last night. Bears, unlike Bills v Texans, were playing at home, and produced a grand total of 6 points, 3 in each half. This despite the many more possessions the Bears offense received via the great Bears defense stopping Texans (as opposed to Bills D). And one of reasons the Bears O struggled so badly was they kept running Forte into the teeth of Texans defense, with very little success. About 2 yards per carry. A lot of wasted plays there. Kind of what Chan was trying to say. But our local media "experts" know better. "Chans an idiot for not running the ball more" was the cry, but I can bet you now none of them will mention Bears futility against Texans, how that contradicts their expertise in how to run an NFL offense. I doubt many of them even watched the Bears game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Good post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDD Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 The pathetic defense has been the reason this season has been such a disappointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marauderswr80 Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Nice post... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Too many injuries, too many needs. They have to resign Levitre and Byrd for sure. Nix needs help making draft picks , Polian for consulting? Starting over with new HC just takes us back to square one. Keep rebulding, Fitz looks ok till rest of team is helped first, especially defense. After watching Gabbert and Tannelhill ,getting a franchise qb is difficult to judge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 31 points on the road and almost 500 yards of offense. Fred and Spiller both had over 100 yards total. We also lost a fumble on the one yard line. Not sure what else you want from the offense. The defense continues giving up 40 points a game, it wont matter what we do. The biggest problem against the texans was we didnt get in the endzone. We moved the ball up and down the field on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Since 1972 Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 31 points on the road and almost 500 yards of offense. Fred and Spiller both had over 100 yards total. We also lost a fumble on the one yard line. Not sure what else you want from the offense. The defense continues giving up 40 points a game, it wont matter what we do. The biggest problem against the texans was we didnt get in the endzone. We moved the ball up and down the field on them. Well, I want an offense that when given the opprtunity to win the game,to do so...This offense had that opportunity and failed!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Well, I want an offense that when given the opprtunity to win the game,to do so...This offense had that opportunity and failed!! We could also expect the defense to catch either one of the two gift interceptions Brady gave us on the first drive. Maybe they make a play, at all in the game. Stop the other team perhaps? 31 points should win the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Well, I want an offense that when given the opprtunity to win the game,to do so...This offense had that opportunity and failed!! Versus the defense that fails nearly the entire game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Seriously, if we had a defense that was even middle of the road, completely average...we'd probably be sitting in first place and everybody would be singing Chan's praises, particularly for the offense. I don't think it really sinks in for some people how historically bad this defense has been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Since 1972 Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 We could also expect the defense to catch either one of the two gift interceptions Brady gave us on the first drive. Maybe they make a play, at all in the game. Stop the other team perhaps? 31 points should win the game. Apple/oranges. You asked what else was needed from the OFFENSE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Scoring points on New England shouldn't excite any team. The Patriots defense is almost as bad a Buffalo's lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billshank Redemption Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 yea good post but unfortunately it doesnt matter if your defense couldnt stop a d III team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lofton80 Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Chan's offense did not play on the sloppy field that the Bears and Texans did. Neither team did much of anything afyer halftime. As for last week, The Bills ran the ball 16 times versus Texas, The Bears ran it 23 times last night. Buffalo ran 57 plays in their game, the Bears ran 56 last night. This despite the many more possessions the Bears offense received via the great Bears defense stopping Texans (as opposed to Bills D)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeBillsFan Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 The media critics in particular (none of whom played football at anything higher than high school level and the vast majority of whom never watch game film) blasted Chan's play selection against Houston, and assured us that Texan defensive plan showed the league the blueprint on how to stop Chans offense. In particular, they ridiculed Chans statement that running the ball into the teeth of the Texans would be counterproductive, that the spread offense gave the offense it's best chance. "Chan just doesn't get it, you gotta keep running the ball" was the consensus. Chan sticks to his offense and the result is an offensive explosion against Pats. In fact Chans offense has produced plenty of points this year; look at the point production overall. Certainly enough offense has been produced this year to produce a winning record. It's the D that's the problem Better yet, critics, look at Texans v Bears game last night. Bears, unlike Bills v Texans, were playing at home, and produced a grand total of 6 points, 3 in each half. This despite the many more possessions the Bears offense received via the great Bears defense stopping Texans (as opposed to Bills D). And one of reasons the Bears O struggled so badly was they kept running Forte into the teeth of Texans defense, with very little success. About 2 yards per carry. A lot of wasted plays there. Kind of what Chan was trying to say. But our local media "experts" know better. "Chans an idiot for not running the ball more" was the cry, but I can bet you now none of them will mention Bears futility against Texans, how that contradicts their expertise in how to run an NFL offense. I doubt many of them even watched the Bears game. The Defense has been atrocious, I agree. But yesterday it was the Bills offense that gave its defense terrible field position to work with. Turnovers and penalties galore. I still think coaching is a serious problem, and here are a few replacements Buffalo management should seriously consider: http://buffalowdown.com/2012/11/08/buffalo-bills-need-a-change-at-head-coach/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobruhhh Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Great post. I agree, talking heads are a joke. If any of them, or us, were in the position of coaching or running an NFL football team, even for a day, we would be hanged. A whole lotta not-so-know-it-alls goin on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 The media critics in particular (none of whom played football at anything higher than high school level and the vast majority of whom never watch game film) blasted Chan's play selection against Houston, and assured us that Texan defensive plan showed the league the blueprint on how to stop Chans offense. In particular, they ridiculed Chans statement that running the ball into the teeth of the Texans would be counterproductive, that the spread offense gave the offense it's best chance. "Chan just doesn't get it, you gotta keep running the ball" was the consensus. Chan sticks to his offense and the result is an offensive explosion against Pats. In fact Chans offense has produced plenty of points this year; look at the point production overall. Certainly enough offense has been produced this year to produce a winning record. It's the D that's the problem Better yet, critics, look at Texans v Bears game last night. Bears, unlike Bills v Texans, were playing at home, and produced a grand total of 6 points, 3 in each half. This despite the many more possessions the Bears offense received via the great Bears defense stopping Texans (as opposed to Bills D). And one of reasons the Bears O struggled so badly was they kept running Forte into the teeth of Texans defense, with very little success. About 2 yards per carry. A lot of wasted plays there. Kind of what Chan was trying to say. But our local media "experts" know better. "Chans an idiot for not running the ball more" was the cry, but I can bet you now none of them will mention Bears futility against Texans, how that contradicts their expertise in how to run an NFL offense. I doubt many of them even watched the Bears game. Im gona go with this had a lot to do with Cutler going down and the pouring rain that fell for most of the game and less to do with offensive expertise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 The Defense has been atrocious, I agree. But yesterday it was the Bills offense that gave its defense terrible field position to work with. Turnovers and penalties galore. Not sure what on earth you're talking about. There was the fumble by Fitz, of course. But besides that, here are the other starting points for the rest of the Pats* drives: NE 27 NE 17 NE 18 NE 20 NE 20 BUF 39 (idiotic special teams penalty on Brooks, not the offense's fault) NE 20 NE 1 NE 32 NE 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas55 Posted November 12, 2012 Author Share Posted November 12, 2012 The Patriots defense is almost as bad as the bills. Against the Texans they did not even try to utilize the strength of their offense, the running game. Did you watch the Texans last night? Or the Falcons against the top five run defense cowboys two weeks ago? They stayed with their offense. IF, BEFORE THE GAME EVEN BEGINS, YOU HAVE LET THE DEFENSE TAKE AWAY YOUR STRENGTH-you have lost-and your coaching staff is admitting its beaten Texans stayed with their offense last night and scored a grand total of 10 points. How many games would the Bills win if they stuck with that and scored 10 points. Im gona go with this had a lot to do with Cutler going down and the pouring rain that fell for most of the game and less to do with offensive expertise. ( You ignore the obvious, lousy conditions don't necessarily hurt an offense, and you ignore the even more obvious, the Texans running back (Foster) ran for well over 100 yards, so the conditions can't be blamed for Bears running woes. They were playing on the same field ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 (edited) Texans stayed with their offense last night and scored a grand total of 10 points. How many games would the Bills win if they stuck with that and scored 10 points. ( You ignore the obvious, lousy conditions don't necessarily hurt an offense, and you ignore the even more obvious, the Texans running back (Foster) ran for well over 100 yards, so the conditions can't be blamed for Bears running woes. They were playing on the same field ! If you multiply that with having to use a backup QB like the Bears did you can. The Texans scored a whopping 13 points. I would say conditions played a huge factor in that game. Players slipping and falling down all over the place. Edited November 12, 2012 by CountDorkula Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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