DefenseWinzChampionshipz Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 The gatorade. If someone spikes the gatorade with the recovery series then the player's muscles heal too quick. They need to have the performance series gatorade in the bucket for a team to have success... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 "Winning is not the most important thing, it's the only thing" -- Vince Lombardi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zona Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 Turnovers. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Angel Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 celebrities dated and camera scandals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Without getting goofy, it is net yards passing differential. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 (edited) for me, it's a tie between TOP and off/def 3rd down conversion because they go hand in hand keeping a drive alive and killing an opponent's drive. the bills have been dreadful at this. in this 12 years of garbage, i've noticed the bills can't seem to convert third and short and can't seem to stop third and long. maybe it comes down to a receiver and a pass rush, but for some reason i always though it was more than that. any thoughts? IMO dominance on the lines. That's what leads to 3rd down conversions, 3rd down stops, net yard passing differential (our QB orders Jimmy Johns in the backfield , their QB runs for his life) and other ancillary statistics. Kind of hard to quantitate - Cold Hard Football Facts came up with stuff like "Offensive Hogs Index" And "Defensive Hogs Index" as an attempt to do so. I don't think TOP means too much. Teams that score efficiently can have lower TOP and even give up a lot of yards defensively, they still win provided they keep points off the board. Edited June 5, 2012 by Hopeful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 IMO dominance on the lines. That's what leads to 3rd down conversions, 3rd down stops, net yard passing differential (our QB orders Jimmy Johns in the backfield , their QB runs for his life) and other ancillary statistics. Kind of hard to quantitate - Cold Hard Football Facts came up with stuff like "Offensive Hogs Index" And "Defensive Hogs Index" as an attempt to do so. I don't think TOP means too much. Teams that score efficiently can have lower TOP and even give up a lot of yards defensively, they still win provided they keep points off the board. If memory serves, the Marv Levy didn't win the time-of-possession battle very often with the K-Gun no-huddle offense. Yet we won a lot of games in those days. I'm not sure how much TOP means either. I'd go with turnover differential. Dominance of lines would be a good one, too, if more easily quantifiable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bufcomments Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 With this team its IR . If we can stay injury free to our top players most of the yr. we have a legit shot at the playoffs. Players that cannot lose more than 3 games to injury. Stevie Fitz Super Mario Wood Kyle Williams Dareus Byrd Freddy ofcourse best for last. Its been and amazing how many players we lose each yr for the past 3 or 4 yrs. We are way overdue for some good luck in the injury department. Football wise I think an underrated stat is TOP but getting turnovers and getting a short field is vital to scoring more points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiebills Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 TOP is always good, QB completion percentage and RB yards per carry for both teams can be pretty good as well Can never argue with the 3rd down conversion percentage though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toshiero Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 for me, it's a tie between TOP and off/def 3rd down conversion because they go hand in hand keeping a drive alive and killing an opponent's drive. the bills have been dreadful at this. in this 12 years of garbage, i've noticed the bills can't seem to convert third and short and can't seem to stop third and long. maybe it comes down to a receiver and a pass rush, but for some reason i always though it was more than that. any thoughts? We went to 4 straight superbowls, 3 of which we had the lowest TOP in the NFL for those 3 years due to the no huddle. Who cares about TOP if you jump up on someone 21-0 quickly? If you can score and score often, then score. Don't intentionally sit on the clock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbosrrgood Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 on base percentage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Number of playoff appearances? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealityCheck Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 The only true measure is the score. You can measure any other aspect of the game and it will never be linear to wins and losses. It falls into an exercise of mythical percentages signifying infinite "what if's". The score is the only statistic of real value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsrhody Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Points off Turnovers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Long Beach Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 TOP is over-rated IMO. It's just a reflection of how long your holding the ball. Not necessarily doing anything good with it. As others have mentioned. A really good offense scores, not just holds onto the ball. Turnovers are a biggie, but one of the toughest to maintain year to year. IMO the only way to reliably generate turnovers is relentless pressure. Something we haven't seen around here much. Hopefully that'll change this year. I agree with SDS, baring turnovers (an erratic stat), Passing differential is the key stat in the NFL today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Without getting goofy, it is net yards passing differential. Period. What is it WITH getting goofy? GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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