dayman Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 A little info...he was a TRUE baller on the Gators. By far the most talented player on the D (and captain) when he was kicked off by incoming coach Muschamp. He was sort of allowed to get away with stuff under Urban and had the rug pulled out from him by Muschamp and was let go. He smokes pot. So do a lot of players including good players in the league who somehow don't miss games. In my opinion he could be a Revis type talent. If he falls to us at 10 in the second and we nab him and put him opposite Williams so long as he doesn't destroy himself we would have CB locked up for 4 years +. Thing is there's the risk w/ the character issues. Thoughts? http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8284835f/article/is-janoris-jenkins-worth-the-risk?campaign=Twitter_atl Is Janoris Jenkins worth the risk? By Marc Sessler NFL.com Writer Published: April 13, 2012 at 07:50 a.m. Updated: April 13, 2012 at 10:36 a.m. Print Janoris Jenkins is widely viewed as one of the top cover corners in this month's draft, but an array of off-the-field issues have some NFL teams weary. NFL Network's Albert Breer painted a disturbing picture Thursday of Jenkins' continued drug use after he was dismissed from Florida and migrated to Div. II North Alabama last season. "They gave him every chance in the world at Florida, and it didn't work," one NFC personnel executive told Breer. "And he gets to North Alabama, and he's still smoking because he's got this big-fish, little-pond thing going. I don't see him going in the first round, and a lot of teams have him off their board completely." Despite his off-field issues (a trio of arrests, positive drug tests and four children with three women) Jenkins remains intriguing to scouts for his work at Florida against big-name receivers. A.J. Green caught only seven passes in two games against Jenkins and Julio Jones was kept to six catches for 47 yards in two meetings. NFL Network's Charley Casserly recently called Jenkins a better man-to-man cover guy than either South Carolina's Stephon Gilmore or Alabama's Dre Kirkpatrick. "I went back and watched half a dozen games when he was at Florida," Casserly said on the positive side. "This guy can press, he can mirror off the press, he can mirror and trail and break, backpedal. He's quick, he's explosive out of it. ... You can see him do all the things you want to see him do to play man coverage, and he can play zone. Davis: Mock Draft 4.0 Watch out, Matt Cassel! Charles Davis has the Chiefs snagging a QB with the 11th pick in his latest mock draft. More ... "... It's the rest of the story that's going to cost him draft spots," Casserly said, noting that Jenkins could fall out of the first round because it's hard to recall another player in the draft with such a notorious rap sheet. One AFC scout told Breer: "He's not a bad person. He just makes a lot of dumb, dumb mistakes. He just smokes and (has sex), and that's essentially what it is. ... And there's just awful decision-making associated with that. I don't think he's a bad person. But he has a lot of soul-searching to do. I wouldn't touch him in the first round." Breer pointed to Vikings receiver Percy Harvin and Patriots tight end Aaron Hernandez as former Florida players testing positive before the draft. It's not just Florida's problem, and we've seen troubled players go on to productive careers. With Jenkins, it's the diversity of the issues that has scouts running in the other direction. If you bring him in, you have to consider your coaching staff, your locker room, your team's reputation. This is what scouts are toying with today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ieatcrayonz Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 A little info...he was a TRUE baller on the Gators. By far the most talented player on the D (and captain) when he was kicked off by incoming coach Muschamp. He was sort of allowed to get away with stuff under Urban and had the rug pulled out from him by Muschamp and was let go. He smokes pot. I passed on reading the rest and will pass on this loser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTO Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Somehow I strongly feel that he will end up with the Patriots as Belichik tends to take chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayman Posted April 13, 2012 Author Share Posted April 13, 2012 Somehow I strongly feel that he will end up with the Patriots as Belichik tends to take chances. Top 10 talent, an Urban Meyer guy (Beli loves them), and they have a billion picks. I agree. But it would be nice if he were a Bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuyInMalta Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Doesn't he also have four kids with three different mothers? Seems lack "poor judgement" and this kid go hand in hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayman Posted April 13, 2012 Author Share Posted April 13, 2012 Doesn't he also have four kids with three different mothers? Seems lack "poor judgement" and this kid go hand in hand. Do you really care about his judgment regarding women though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsrhody Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Thanks for the info.. I didnt know much about him. With that said, I think I would stay away from a guy like this. I do think we have a very strong locker room right now. We have vocal leaders like Fitz and good-natured fun guys like Stevie and Dareus. Maybe having strong leadership would benefit this kid a lot and allow him to turn his life around? I'm just not sure thats possible.. he seems like a classic screw up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuyInMalta Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Do you really care about his judgment regarding women though? Absolutely. It shows a complete lack of judgement and maturity. You could argue that having one or even two unplanned kids before you graduate college is stupid...but forgivable because young people make mistakes. Granted, these are life altering mistakes...but they're still mistakes. I could actually believe that. But four kids with three women before you're 24? Coupled with not being able to stop smoking pot even though you told everyone it was ruining your career? Whats going to happen when he pockets that first paycheck? Is all of his stupid behavior going to simply stop when he has all of that cash? No, quite the opposite...its going to make things much much worse. What about the mothers of the kids he fathered already, won't they be hitting him up for child support? Bad juju and red flags all over this kid, let someone else have this grenade go off in their laps. I'm not arguing his talent...but I want nothing to do with him and the baggage he brings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanCity Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 I disagree with labelling Jenkins as a "loser". He is a young guy that has made a number of mistakes that have cost him dearly to this point. He was, quite truly, the top CB in the country as a sophomore in Florida. His skillset is incredible and the only knock on him on the field is his size (5'10"). I would be more than happy to see him on this team. With our group of solid veterans to steer him in the right direction, he should prove to be a steal in the second. Maybe we can also talk to the pot dealers of WNY to convince them to not sell to him for the sake of the team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeSpeed Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Regardless of your stance on pot, it is still illegal and against the NFL drug policy. He'll be watched like a hawk with his rep. A suspended or in jail player is a useless one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haplo848 Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 From everything I've read, he seems like he'd be a REALLY good cover corner. However, that's mitigated by problems with the law, alimony, etc. If he's still there in the third round, I'd take him, but anywhere before that is too much of a risk. You don't know when or how long you'd have him, and he's constantly one more screw-up away from going to jail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 "... It's the rest of the story that's going to cost him draft spots," Casserly said, noting that Jenkins could fall out of the first round because it's hard to recall another player in the draft with such a notorious rap sheet. Uhm, Pacman Jones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eme123 Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 This guy will be smoking pot before the bus leaves for training camp. He has had two chances and I don't want to be the idiot who gives him a third. There is plenty of other talent in this draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanCity Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Do you really care about his judgment regarding women though? I actually think that this is a much larger problem than the pot use. Habitual screw-ups to this point. I still love his skillset though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Absolutely. It shows a complete lack of judgement and maturity. You could argue that having one or even two unplanned kids before you graduate college is stupid...but forgivable because young people make mistakes. Granted, these are life altering mistakes...but they're still mistakes. I could actually believe that. But four kids with three women before you're 24? Coupled with not being able to stop smoking pot even though you told everyone it was ruining your career? Whats going to happen when he pockets that first paycheck? Is all of his stupid behavior going to simply stop when he has all of that cash? No, quite the opposite...its going to make things much much worse. What about the mothers of the kids he fathered already, won't they be hitting him up for child support? Bad juju and red flags all over this kid, let someone else have this grenade go off in their laps. I'm not arguing his talent...but I want nothing to do with him and the baggage he brings. That's the biggest concern for me, as I told Dayman in the shoutbox discussion. Too big a red flag for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 (edited) Absolutely. It shows a complete lack of judgement and maturity. You could argue that having one or even two unplanned kids before you graduate college is stupid...but forgivable because young people make mistakes. Granted, these are life altering mistakes...but they're still mistakes. I could actually believe that. But four kids with three women before you're 24? Coupled with not being able to stop smoking pot even though you told everyone it was ruining your career? Whats going to happen when he pockets that first paycheck? Is all of his stupid behavior going to simply stop when he has all of that cash? No, quite the opposite...its going to make things much much worse. What about the mothers of the kids he fathered already, won't they be hitting him up for child support? Bad juju and red flags all over this kid, let someone else have this grenade go off in their laps. I'm not arguing his talent...but I want nothing to do with him and the baggage he brings. Plus going to north Alabama is supposed to be a come clean and let's fix this Type of experience - he lied to the coach and said he had no kids. Edited April 13, 2012 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 (edited) May be worth the risk. I mean, the hotels in Buffalo are terrible and won't lure any women, and there is nothing to do except go to Applebees. Do they even have drug dealers in buffalo? Kidding aside I'd take the risk w/ a 2nd round pick. If the Pat's get him, I'm not too worried, Steve will own him like he owns Revis Island. Edited April 13, 2012 by RyanC883 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 The further he dropped in the draft the more appealing this player is going to look. We DO have 2 4th round picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dat Dude Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Top 10 talent, an Urban Meyer guy (Beli loves them), and they have a billion picks. I agree. But it would be nice if he were a Bill. The further he dropped in the draft the more appealing this player is going to look. We DO have 2 4th round picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 The further he dropped in the draft the more appealing this player is going to look. We DO have 2 4th round picks. Late in the draft is fine but Id be upset if we took in the first 3 rounds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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