BillsNeedaQBin2012 Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 (edited) EDIT: Today proved it, Gailey's play calling is horrendous, he basically abandoned the run during the 2nd half. If he loses the rest of his games, I'm sorry, but he needs to go. That's just my opinion and if you disagree with me, that's fine, just don't call me stupid. I think in the beginning of the season, Gailey was a COTY candidate, but now OUR Bills are on a downward spiral. Listen I know we have less talent than 30 other teams in the league right now, but I have not seen Chan adjust his game-plan to fool other defenses, and the George Edwards hiring should automatically put him on a very tiny hot seat. I was never really a fan of his due to his failure to have elite teams at GT (Usually had a Top 25 recruiting class year in/out) and failure to go deep in the playoffs with a stacked Dallas team (Aikman, Smith, and Irvin (1 year)). I'm not saying fire him this year, but next year if he gets of to a slow start a la Dick Jauron should we fire him. I mean he is 60, so he could retire soon. So what do you guys think. Edited December 4, 2011 by BillsNeedaQBin2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San-O Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 I think in the beginning of the season, Gailey was a COTY candidate, but now OUR Bills are on a downward spiral. Listen I know we have less talent than 30 other teams in the league right now, but I have not seen Chan adjust his game-plan to fool other defenses, and the George Edwards hiring should automatically put him on a very tiny hot seat. I was never really a fan of his due to his failure to have elite teams at GT (Usually had a Top 25 recruiting class year in/out) and failure to go deep in the playoffs with a stacked Dallas team (Aikman, Smith, and Irvin (1 year)). I'm not saying fire him this year, but next year if he gets of to a slow start a la Dick Jauron should we fire him. I mean he is 60, so he could retire soon. So what do you guys think. I give him 1 more year also, another D-coordinator and another draft. No major progress, then let him go. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 As long as Nix is the GM, Gailey will be the Bills HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsNeedaQBin2012 Posted November 26, 2011 Author Share Posted November 26, 2011 I give him 1 more year also, another D-coordinator and another draft. No major progress, then let him go. Period. You always give a coach 3 years that much I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SelmonSmith6378 Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 I give him 2 more years. He has potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsNeedaQBin2012 Posted November 26, 2011 Author Share Posted November 26, 2011 As long as Nix is the GM, Gailey will be the Bills HC. Nix needs to realize that this isn't the 80's it's 2011. I look at his resume in San Diego and I am impressed, but I heard that this recent draft is his first one with full control...so I'll be patient...for now, but we'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynical Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 I think in the beginning of the season, Gailey was a COTY candidate, but now OUR Bills are on a downward spiral. Listen I know we have less talent than 30 other teams in the league right now, but I have not seen Chan adjust his game-plan to fool other defenses, and the George Edwards hiring should automatically put him on a very tiny hot seat. I was never really a fan of his due to his failure to have elite teams at GT (Usually had a Top 25 recruiting class year in/out) and failure to go deep in the playoffs with a stacked Dallas team (Aikman, Smith, and Irvin (1 year)). I'm not saying fire him this year, but next year if he gets of to a slow start a la Dick Jauron should we fire him. I mean he is 60, so he could retire soon. So what do you guys think. I think you need to find another hobby as it seems you have some extra free time on your hands. You state this: "Listen I know we have less talent than 30 other teams in the league..." followed by this: "... I have not seen Chan adjust his game-plan to fool other defenses" Even though the Bills have less talent than 30 other teams, you still expect Chan to scheme his way out of it. The Oline is in shambles, and we have no depth. The Dallas game speaks for itself. In the first 3 plays, the right side defensive pass rusher came in untouched twice. Please show me a scheme that will overcome that, and with less talent than 30 other teams. Then you complain about his "failure" to have elite teams at GT. Personally, I thought most people realized the college game and the pro game were 2 different animals. My mistake. Success/Failure in one does not automatically equate to success/failure in the other. If it did, Saban would still be coaching the Dolphins, and Weis would still be at ND. Then you bring up the "stacked" Dallas teams he had, completely ignoring the reality those players were on the downside of the careers, the Cowboys failed to make the playoffs the year before his arrival, and failed to make the playoffs after he left. During his tenure, they made the playoffs both times, and did so with an owner who is far more meddlesome than Wilson. Jauron spent 4 offseason's destroying the Bills organization by building a team that was undersized, soft, and convinced it was hard to win in the NFL. After this season, Chan gets 2 more years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsNeedaQBin2012 Posted November 26, 2011 Author Share Posted November 26, 2011 I think you need to find another hobby as it seems you have some extra free time on your hands. You state this: "Listen I know we have less talent than 30 other teams in the league..." followed by this: "... I have not seen Chan adjust his game-plan to fool other defenses" Even though the Bills have less talent than 30 other teams, you still expect Chan to scheme his way out of it. The Oline is in shambles, and we have no depth. The Dallas game speaks for itself. In the first 3 plays, the right side defensive pass rusher came in untouched twice. Please show me a scheme that will overcome that, and with less talent than 30 other teams. Then you complain about his "failure" to have elite teams at GT. Personally, I thought most people realized the college game and the pro game were 2 different animals. My mistake. Success/Failure in one does not automatically equate to success/failure in the other. If it did, Saban would still be coaching the Dolphins, and Weis would still be at ND. Then you bring up the "stacked" Dallas teams he had, completely ignoring the reality those players were on the downside of the careers, the Cowboys failed to make the playoffs the year before his arrival, and failed to make the playoffs after he left. During his tenure, they made the playoffs both times, and did so with an owner who is far more meddlesome than Wilson. Jauron spent 4 offseason's destroying the Bills organization by building a team that was undersized, soft, and convinced it was hard to win in the NFL. After this season, Chan gets 2 more years. Ummm... I was just sharing my opinion, no need to get all mad-like on me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estelle Getty Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 Ummm... I was just sharing my opinion, no need to get all mad-like on me. He has a hard time with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WellDressed Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 Ummm... I was just sharing my opinion, no need to get all mad-like on me. Please define mad-like, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 I think in the beginning of the season, Gailey was a COTY candidate, but now OUR Bills are on a downward spiral. Listen I know we have less talent than 30 other teams in the league right now, but I have not seen Chan adjust his game-plan to fool other defenses, and the George Edwards hiring should automatically put him on a very tiny hot seat. I was never really a fan of his due to his failure to have elite teams at GT (Usually had a Top 25 recruiting class year in/out) and failure to go deep in the playoffs with a stacked Dallas team (Aikman, Smith, and Irvin (1 year)). I'm not saying fire him this year, but next year if he gets of to a slow start a la Dick Jauron should we fire him. I mean he is 60, so he could retire soon. So what do you guys think. That should be your first clue. All you know is what is in front of you, what just happened. Win = happy, lose = angry. Lose 3 = get fired. This is no way to run a team. If we fire coaches every two seasons we get what we deserve. Gailey made chicken salad out of chicken **** and we love him. As soon as the NFL gameplans against our chicken **** we go ballistic and look to scapegoat the entire team. To me, the reaction to bad times is worse than the bad times. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 That should be your first clue. All you know is what is in front of you, what just happened. Win = happy, lose = angry. Lose 3 = get fired. This is no way to run a team. If we fire coaches every two seasons we get what we deserve. Gailey made chicken salad out of chicken **** and we love him. As soon as the NFL gameplans against our chicken **** we go ballistic and look to scapegoat the entire team. To me, the reaction to bad times is worse than the bad times. PTR A bit bi-polar indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsNeedaQBin2012 Posted November 26, 2011 Author Share Posted November 26, 2011 Please define mad-like, I don't even know, I made it up on the fly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disco Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 I think Gailey's mostly been good this year. My biggest complaint has been not giving Freddy more carries in a few of the games. But the biggest question - what in the world is Dave Wannstedt doing? I honestly don't know. Is he just tearing his hair out because we don't have the talent on D or is he not the defensive specialist I was hoping he'd be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Angel Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 I think in the beginning of the season, Gailey was a COTY candidate, but now OUR Bills are on a downward spiral. Listen I know we have less talent than 30 other teams in the league right now, but I have not seen Chan adjust his game-plan to fool other defenses, and the George Edwards hiring should automatically put him on a very tiny hot seat. I was never really a fan of his due to his failure to have elite teams at GT (Usually had a Top 25 recruiting class year in/out) and failure to go deep in the playoffs with a stacked Dallas team (Aikman, Smith, and Irvin (1 year)). I'm not saying fire him this year, but next year if he gets of to a slow start a la Dick Jauron should we fire him. I mean he is 60, so he could retire soon. So what do you guys think. A top 25 recruiting class isn't great when you play teams that are have a higher ranked recruiting class. On paper his dallas team was stacked but the Triplets where aging and he inherited them when the where struggling under Barry Switzer and they won 2 nfc east championships after Chan took over; if he could bring 1 AFC east championship to the Bills It would make me very happy. Ive mention on here before that i would like to see some more ground and pound with McIntyre in the game, but this is the same offensive line that we have been complaining about for some time on here...so maybe Chan has been hiding there flaws somewhat with his spread formations and knows he can lineup and pound the ball. With Fitzpatrick at QB we are going to struggle against tougher defensive..hes a gambler and an inaccurate passer, good defenses are going to capitalize on that, which is what we have been seeing the past 3 weeks. His inaccurate passes have also contributed to out WR being injured, he has a hard time putting his passes on the numbers making our receivers arms extend away from there bodies making them unable to protect themselves from being lit up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 Oh yeah, let's give this awful play-caller another year to demoralize our faithful fan base. A healthy Fred Jackson is what made Chan and Fitz look like superheroes. They are not. If it were up to me, him, his DC, and his franchise QB would be GONE at seasons end. Regardless of the outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsNeedaQBin2012 Posted November 26, 2011 Author Share Posted November 26, 2011 Oh yeah, let's give this awful play-caller another year to demoralize our faithful fan base. A healthy Fred Jackson is what made Chan and Fitz look like superheroes. They are not. If it were up to me, him, his DC, and his franchise QB would be GONE at seasons end. Regardless of the outcome. I wouldn't go that far...yet, but this is feeling like THE JAURON SAGA PART II:RALPH STRIKES BACK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdogtim Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 Come on guys. Remember, "it's hard to win in the NFL." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsNeedaQBin2012 Posted November 26, 2011 Author Share Posted November 26, 2011 Come on guys. Remember, "it's hard to win in the NFL." sarcasm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jahnyc Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 I think Chan has done a good job under the circumstances, particularly with the offense. He has made the most of the talent on offense, and recent injuries are difficult to overcome with little depth or experience behind our starters. He does have responsibility for a poorly conceived defense, and changes need to be made in the offseason. I don't think Nix has given Chan enough to work with and one more draft will not magically transform this team into a playoff caliber team next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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