Charles Romes Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 I was listening to NFL Radio tonight and Modrak was a guest. Carucci was saying how great Modrak was, etc. At the end of the interview Modrak made a comment something to the effect that he doesn't know what the Eagles plans are regarding a backup QB now that Vick is "35 or 36". I thought maybe Modrak was casting a hypothical regarding the Eagles' 5 year plan. Then Modrak made the same comment again, saying Vick was in his "mid 30s". Are you kidding me? He doesn't know a basic piece of league player information every last place fantasy football team owner knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealityCheck Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 I was listening to NFL Radio tonight and Modrak was a guest. Carucci was saying how great Modrak was, etc. At the end of the interview Modrak made a comment something to the effect that he doesn't know what the Eagles plans are regarding a backup QB now that Vick is "35 or 36". I thought maybe Modrak was casting a hypothical regarding the Eagles' 5 year plan. Then Modrak made the same comment again, saying Vick was in his "mid 30s". Are you kidding me? He doesn't know a basic piece of league player information every last place fantasy football team owner knows? And if you don't know, now you know........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 Odd. A college scout doesn't know a vets age? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtbag Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 (edited) he actually had vick's age as 31 on the board but jauron, ralph, donahoe and marv all had the final call. not his fault. Edited August 9, 2011 by Dirtbag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsObserver Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 he actually had vick's age as 31 on the board but jauron, ralph, donahoe and marv all had the final call. not his fault. haha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thoner7 Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 There is a lot more Modrak doesnt know. Having a good draft is on the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lv-Bills Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 Odd. A college scout doesn't know a vets age? He didn't seem to know too much about "college scouting" either. Odd. A college scout, not scouting well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 He really worked hard placing the magnets though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 He didn't seem to know too much about "college scouting" either. Odd. A college scout, not scouting well. I'm glad you figured out the root of the dysfunction for the last decade. I'm not going to say good or bad as none of us have a clue how, say, maybin got picked. I will say we did well in late rounds when it's likely easier to just trust your grades instead of having coaches and owners possibly interfere. Odds our, as fans, we will never know. That whole front office was a mess and I'm glad we made major changes, regardless of who was at fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lv-Bills Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 I'm glad you figured out the root of the dysfunction for the last decade. I'm not going to say good or bad as none of us have a clue how, say, maybin got picked. I will say we did well in late rounds when it's likely easier to just trust your grades instead of having coaches and owners possibly interfere. Odds our, as fans, we will never know. That whole front office was a mess and I'm glad we made major changes, regardless of who was at fault. Never said I knew. The only fact I go on was that he was on a putrid front office staff, for a long time, that continuously whiffed in the important rounds of the draft. So any way you look at it, he sucked evaluating talent, OR, he couldn't convince anyone to take anyone that he thought was good. Either way, he was a zero for us. And I'm so sick of hearing how well our staff does late. #1 - When your team sucks, there will be many late rounders who can probably make a less talented roster. #2 - We need someone to not whiff in the early rounds. The playmaker rounds. Every teams finds those late round gems and unsung heroes. We are no better than anyone else. But really, look no further than our current roster to know that anyone on this staff that was here as long as Modrak should have a TON more to show for their body of work than he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zulu Cthulhu Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 I am shocked to see anyone still defending Modrak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estelle Getty Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 I am shocked to see anyone still defending Modrak. The same goofballs who were still defending skelator in his last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 Wow. This is kind of a bizarre anecdote. Is it possible that Modrak thinks a 31 year old football player is 35 years old? For non-athletes, this is not a big gap in age but for NFL players, the difference between 31 and 35 is pretty much a chasm. Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zulu Cthulhu Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 The same goofballs who were still defending skelator in his last season. Probably. I understand the argument saying Modrak doesn't deserve all the blame - certainly not. But as head college scout he certainly contributed to many blown draft choices over the last decade. Sure, desperate coaches like Jauron probably overruled him, most likely several times. Modrak should have done a better overall job scouting, perhaps some of those overrulings would have been averted with a better, more forceful presentation from the scouting dept. The ultimate blame still lies with RW, but Modrak's departure should still be celebrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanM.D. Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 (edited) It's hard to remember ages in the NFL..... Edited August 9, 2011 by BillsFanM.D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 There is a lot more Modrak doesnt know. Having a good draft is on the list. Amen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 he actually had vick's age as 31 on the board but jauron, ralph, donahoe and marv all had the final call. not his fault. 2 years later, Nix publicly hinted that he told everyone back then that Vick was not 35 or 36. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 Probably. I understand the argument saying Modrak doesn't deserve all the blame - certainly not. But as head college scout he certainly contributed to many blown draft choices over the last decade. Sure, desperate coaches like Jauron probably overruled him, most likely several times. Modrak should have done a better overall job scouting, perhaps some of those overrulings would have been averted with a better, more forceful presentation from the scouting dept. The ultimate blame still lies with RW, but Modrak's departure should still be celebrated. Didn't defend modrak, simply said it was silly to get worked up about a college scout not being able to quote every vet players age. As far as scouting we really have no idea what his role in it all was. I suspect he was an ok scout with very little pull in the room (whether he went hands off or had things taken from him) and we are better off to have cleaned house. If that's sticking up for the guy, I dunno what to tell you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zulu Cthulhu Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 Fair enough, but Mike Vick is a little different than some journeyman offensive lineman. Vick's one of the most visible and high profile players in the NFL, for better or worse. Being completely off on his age says something about Modrak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 I am shocked to see anyone still defending Modrak. Tom Modrak is Satan's spawn & he drinks baby's blood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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