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Newton is a beast of a QB. Quarterbacks who've played college ball in wide open offenses usually don't make it in the pros because they're one dimentional. Newton, by contrast, is both a fine passer and runner. Anyone comparing him to Jason Campbell has not seen JC play very much. JC is relatively tentative, lacks fire, and can, in no way, run in Newton's shoes.

 

Newton is Michael Vick with a potentially better passing game. Anyone have a problem with that?

 

What the Bills need is a fire starter. Cam has the tinder and the spark.

100% Agree...Cam is a beast and a special player , hope he's available at #3 so we have a chance to see him in a Bills uniform, he's a can't miss player with all the tools he has, plus he has shown that he can win big games :

 

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100% Agree...Cam is a beast and a special player , hope he's available at #3 so we have a chance to see him in a Bills uniform, he's a can't miss player with all the tools he has, plus he has shown that he can win big games :

 

Cam Newton Highlights Game by Game

 

Why wouldn't he be available at #3? No one is confusing this kid for Andrew Luck at 1 and the Broncos have White Cam Newton.

 

I can't believe people would entrust the success of the franchise to a person with Newton's checkered past. This pick has the power to either propel the team forward towards a string of playoff appearances, or if we miss, it will set us back years like the Mike Williams debacle. No way I put that pressure on Newton. Can he read defenses and more importantly, does he have the work ethic to succeed? IMO, no. I sense a high degree of arrogance on this kid. He's a beast, no doubt, just not the type of beast we need.

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Why wouldn't he be available at #3? No one is confusing this kid for Andrew Luck at 1 and the Broncos have White Cam Newton.

 

I can't believe people would entrust the success of the franchise to a person with Newton's checkered past. This pick has the power to either propel the team forward towards a string of playoff appearances, or if we miss, it will set us back years like the Mike Williams debacle. No way I put that pressure on Newton. Can he read defenses and more importantly, does he have the work ethic to succeed? IMO, no. I sense a high degree of arrogance on this kid. He's a beast, no doubt, just not the type of beast we need.

People avoided Moss because of a far worse past. He has been one of the best WRs in history.

People avoided Blount because of a checkered past. He's been nothing but a monster on the field.

 

You have to put things in context. Do I care about a stolen laptop or the fact that his father was trying to make a dime off him? Nope, not one bit. :)

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Why wouldn't he be available at #3? No one is confusing this kid for Andrew Luck at 1 and the Broncos have White Cam Newton.

 

I can't believe people would entrust the success of the franchise to a person with Newton's checkered past. This pick has the power to either propel the team forward towards a string of playoff appearances, or if we miss, it will set us back years like the Mike Williams debacle. No way I put that pressure on Newton. Can he read defenses and more importantly, does he have the work ethic to succeed? IMO, no. I sense a high degree of arrogance on this kid. He's a beast, no doubt, just not the type of beast we need.

Stony, I can see why there is reason for concerns with Newton, but isn't it the same risk with every college player? A QB being able to read NFL defenses can only be discovered when he actually plays in the NFL, the thing is you have to be able to teach your rookies to do that, and with Chan Gailey has our head coach I would feel pretty comfortable taking a risk with Newton, one can only imagine what Chan the Man can do with a talent like Newton

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People avoided Moss because of a far worse past. He has been one of the best WRs in history.

People avoided Blount because of a checkered past. He's been nothing but a monster on the field.

 

You have to put things in context. Do I care about a stolen laptop or the fact that his father was trying to make a dime off him? Nope, not one bit. :)

Give a QB Moss's character and you get Ryan Leaf. QBs can't get by on pure athletic talent.

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Haven't we heard this cliche used many times before to describe the latest QB flavor of the month? Probably used to describe Clausen and Tebow last year?

 

It was, many many times. Happens every year then the kid flops and all you hear is crickets. Hardly no one ever owns up when a player stinks up the joint no matter the position. Once the crusade is over the loudest crusaders go turtle.

 

And IM not implying that either Clausen or Tebow are busts but the NFL landscape is littered with quarterbacks that "just won" in college. Come to think of it, didn't we just have a QB fitting that bill just play QB for Buffalo this last game ?? How did that work out ???

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People avoided Moss because of a far worse past. He has been one of the best WRs in history.

People avoided Blount because of a checkered past. He's been nothing but a monster on the field.

 

You have to put things in context. Do I care about a stolen laptop or the fact that his father was trying to make a dime off him? Nope, not one bit. :)

 

Somewhat true. But they're not playing the most important position is all of pro-sports. Money is obviously important to him, and I don't believe for one second that he wasn't cognizant to what his father was doing. That's a red flag for me at QB.

 

It took Vick 8 yrs and a stay in jail to realize that you can't simply get by on athletic talent, the quality the majority of Newton supporters are enthralled by.

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why not. If he fails at QB he'd be one hell of a tight end!

I was just thinking that. He could really play WR, RB, TE, FB and that's IF he faulters as a QB. I'd personally love to see him in a Bills uni. But I believe in Buddy and Chan. If they think they can mold this kid to be great, then they'll draft him. If they doubt it at all, then we will end up with the best D player in the draft.

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Trading down is much harder than people make it out to be. Also, it's not often that a team gets a top 3 pick and a chance to get elite level talent. I also don't think Nix likes to trade down unless it was a can't pass opportunity (which they rarely are).

 

NE seems to find a way. Granted, they haven't had a top 5 pick in a looooong time to be looking for suitors to trade down with. Seems it may be more difficult to trade down from the top few spots, but not impossible. The point is that the Bills FO should be listening seriously to all offers to increase value in this and next years draft.

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If you think Cam Newton will fail in the NFL or wont be able to adjust to playing at the NFL level and that Luck/Mallet is ANY less of of gamble. Its obvious to me you don't watch college football. If anyone wants to name the other football players who are 6'6" 250 with a rocket arm and runs 4.5 40? go ahead.

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If you think Cam Newton will fail in the NFL or wont be able to adjust to playing at the NFL level and that Luck/Mallet is ANY less of of gamble. Its obvious to me you don't watch college football. If anyone wants to name the other football players who are 6'6" 250 with a rocket arm and runs 4.5 40? go ahead.

Agreed.

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If you think Cam Newton will fail in the NFL or wont be able to adjust to playing at the NFL level and that Luck/Mallet is ANY less of of gamble. Its obvious to me you don't watch college football. If anyone wants to name the other football players who are 6'6" 250 with a rocket arm and runs 4.5 40? go ahead.

 

-He has yet to prove he can go through multiple progressions consistently.

-He has yet to prove he can be a pocket passer.

-He has absolutely terrible footwork.

-He only throws 19 passes a game.

-He only has 1 year of major college experience as a starter.

-He has yet to show that he can play from under center and take 3, 5, and 7 step drops.

-He has character concerns.

 

Cam Newton is an intriguing prospect. However, there are just too many things that scare me away from him. He has amazing size and athleticism but can he run an NFL offense? Can he stay in the pocket and dissect a defense? Will he associate himself with the wrong people after getting paid? I trust Chan and Buddy to make good decisions. And who knows, maybe Cam blows everyone away at the combine and during interviews and works extremely hard at the next level. Until then, consider me skeptical.

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If you think Cam Newton will fail in the NFL or wont be able to adjust to playing at the NFL level and that Luck/Mallet is ANY less of of gamble. Its obvious to me you don't watch college football. If anyone wants to name the other football players who are 6'6" 250 with a rocket arm and runs 4.5 40? go ahead.

Why do we care about a QB'S 40 time?

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