Munch Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 You cannot call ANY draft class a bust after these kids play their FIRST 5 professional games. 5 games man. Relax a bit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akm0404 Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 I just wish we were one of those teams that didn't have to wait. Oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mob16151 Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 Obvious troll is obvious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 This draft looks like another bust based on early returns. I know you will all say it is early, give them time, but we said the same things about all these other draft picks over the years and they have really not improved much. Yes, these players may get better, but based on true talent, I see bust written all over this draft. Heck, if you can't start for this untalented team, you must suck. C. J. Spiller - Big play potential but can't consistently get on the field. Has not proved to be a starter. If your first pick is not a starter from the get go, the pick is a failure. We need immediate results from this pick and he must be a starter. This guy can't pick up a blitz to save his life. He is actually a liability on third down passing downs because he can't block. Troup - Doesn't start and does not appear to be a difference maker. Average at best. Has he helped stop the run yet - a big fat no. Carrington - Has basically done nothing since he hasn't played much. Easley - Hurt, another wasted pick, Next year will be his true rookie year, Won't make any impact until 2012 if he can stay healthy Moats - Been Hurt, shows some potential but doesn't start. Seems like he can make plays but isn't consistent. Batten - Hurt, another wasted pick, won't make team next year Levi Brown - Won't make this team next year if we draft a QB Callaway - Cut Please, people do not tell this to anyone, it is from an inside source. I have it on good authority that our 2011 draft is a bust, too. You see, my friend, who is really smart with numbers and things knows a guy who once had a dog he used to walk in Orchard Park and met this guy who told him that the whole thing is already fixed. He said our 2011 draft is awful. That's like 10 years in a row of draft fail! He is supposed to call my buddy soon, but that guy is first going to talk to his uncle who sells earthquake insurance and is really good about stuff to confirm, but we may have stats on the 2012 draft, too. Obvious troll is obvious Hi my name is John, and I hate every single one of you. OP post was so cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Fong Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 You guys don't like to hear it, but the guy is telling the truth. Yet another blown draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mob16151 Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 Hi my name is John, and I hate every single one of you. OP post was so cash. OMG we've become footballs 4chan. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 OMG we've become footballs 4chan. lol I reference it often inconspicuously, usually stick to 1 and 2. If you remember Hossage he was on there a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewildrabbit Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 It really is a bit early to give this past draft a grade as failure, although if you look at other teams most of the first rounders are starting and doing well. Spiller was a luxury pick at RB / KR 3rd down back at 9th overall considering how many holes the team had at OLB-QB-RT-LT-C-WR, I can see why some are frustrated with this pick because they guy just isn't doing much atm. Spiller should be getting 15 touches a game, he isn't. Again, as for the rest of this years draft its easy to see why some already consider it a bad draft because of injuries and not many are even playing. Stating some defense for this new GM, I'm not convinced he really knows what he is doing. He went into the draft with the O line as a priority and came away with just a 5th & 7th rounder, and the 7th rounder was cut in August Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 This draft looks like another bust based on early returns. Just reading that first sentence shows that you don't understand how to judge a bust. Judging a draft on early returns is like deciding that a person will never be beautiful while looking at the little pinched blue face right after birth. You just don't get it. Clausen was picked 48th in the draft. I'm not saying that he won't be a franchise QB someday but judging by how he played in Carolina so far he wouldn't be faring that much better in Buffalo. And I'm sure you would be getting the coals ready to burn him at the stake. Like I said in the other thread there are possibly 5 potential 1st round QBs this year. I'd rather one of them then give the keys to a second round talent. So would I. But we don't know whether Clausen is a second-round talent. Brady wasn't a sixth-round talent, he was a sixth-round pick. There's a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaPolian8693 Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 Perhaps it's too early to call this draft class a bust, but nonetheless every single other team in the NFL has gotten more contributions from rookies so far this season than the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keukasmallies Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 Given that yesterday is the best predictor of tomorrow, I fear the NEXT draft by the Buffalo Bills will be a bust too! If you always do what you always did; you always get what you always got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 Great post .... ... if you are a dope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akm0404 Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 Everyone keeps harping on why we need to wait wait wait for our draft choices to get good, yet nobody has addressed the simple question that the realists are asking: Why do we have to wait for our draft selections to get better when every other team gets immediate contributions by their rookies? Why did Ryan Matthews make an immediate impact in San Diego? Why did Jahvid Best make an immediate impact in Detroit? Why must we wait 3 years before our draft choices can be evaluated? It is terribly frustrating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsMagic1 Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 no staters out of draft and #9 pik that is not an everydown guy says "bust". if it looks like a duck, if it quacks like a duck, gues what it is???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 So would I. But we don't know whether Clausen is a second-round talent. Brady wasn't a sixth-round talent, he was a sixth-round pick. There's a difference. The difference, in my opinion, between Brady and Clausen was that Brady was always under the radar, most draft boards had him that low for whatever reason. Clausen on the other hand was seen as a 1st round talent and teams that needed QBs seemed to sprint in the other direction last year when they were on the board, even in the second round when QB hungry teams like us, Cleveland, and Oakland all passed on him in the 2nd round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1B4IDie Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 Everyone keeps harping on why we need to wait wait wait for our draft choices to get good, yet nobody has addressed the simple question that the realists are asking: Why do we have to wait for our draft selections to get better when every other team gets immediate contributions by their rookies? Why did Ryan Matthews make an immediate impact in San Diego? Why did Jahvid Best make an immediate impact in Detroit? Why must we wait 3 years before our draft choices can be evaluated? It is terribly frustrating. Because all teams have to wait. Best and Mathews have been on the sidelines for half of the "season". Plus Mathews can't hold on to the football I'm sure there are some knuckleheads like you and the OP that are calling both of them a bust "if the guy can't stay healthy then what good are they? Total bust." But that is foolish. Any rational football fan know you can't grade busts after 5 games. Although there is cause for concern it's boarderline crazy to go down the line and call every pick a bust after 5 games. Please, people do not tell this to anyone, it is from an inside source. I have it on good authority that our 2011 draft is a bust, too. You see, my friend, who is really smart with numbers and things knows a guy who once had a dog he used to walk in Orchard Park and met this guy who told him that the whole thing is already fixed. He said our 2011 draft is awful. That's like 10 years in a row of draft fail! He is supposed to call my buddy soon, but that guy is first going to talk to his uncle who sells earthquake insurance and is really good about stuff to confirm, but we may have stats on the 2012 draft, too. Hi my name is John, and I hate every single one of you. OP post was so cash. My aunt Sissy's gardener's cousin's cat is a futurist. The kitty says don't worry 2014 draft is going to be a franchise saver. Out Franchise QB is graduating from Nib High this spring. You should really see his throwing motion and footwork. Nib High Football rules! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Philster Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 Everyone keeps harping on why we need to wait wait wait for our draft choices to get good, yet nobody has addressed the simple question that the realists are asking: Why do we have to wait for our draft selections to get better when every other team gets immediate contributions by their rookies? Why did Ryan Matthews make an immediate impact in San Diego? Why did Jahvid Best make an immediate impact in Detroit? Why must we wait 3 years before our draft choices can be evaluated? It is terribly frustrating. Let's see....your examples Ryan Matthews...The Chargers' other RB, Darren Sproles, isn't a feature-type back and got 343 yards as a runner last year Jahvid Best...replacing Kevin Smith who had 747 yds last year...decent but not great CJ Spiller...the Bills' starting RB was the first guy in NFL history to rush and return kicks for 1000 yards each last year with 1062 coming as a runner Now...anyone with an even remote clue knows that a RB is going to have a harder time unseating a better RB than he would someone who got a measly 343 yards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 Just about every team in the NFL has at least one rookie starter. Some have several. Ask yourself why the Buffalo Bills, a team with such a near complete lack of talent, can not find a draft pick that is better than the incumbent trash. The Patriots plug in a handful of rookies every year. Why is that? Hint: The answer hurts. I'm not ready to label the draft a bust but you pose an intriguing question. One I ask weekly watching other teams. The answer resides at the core of the problem at OBD. Statistically, Bills management is at the left side of the bell curve when it comes to the capability of evaluating and acquiring players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalScotts Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 This draft looks like another bust based on early returns. I know you will all say it is early, give them time, but we said the same things about all these other draft picks over the years and they have really not improved much. Yes, these players may get better, but based on true talent, I see bust written all over this draft. Heck, if you can't start for this untalented team, you must suck. C. J. Spiller - Big play potential but can't consistently get on the field. Has not proved to be a starter. If your first pick is not a starter from the get go, the pick is a failure. We need immediate results from this pick and he must be a starter. This guy can't pick up a blitz to save his life. He is actually a liability on third down passing downs because he can't block. Troup - Doesn't start and does not appear to be a difference maker. Average at best. Has he helped stop the run yet - a big fat no. Carrington - Has basically done nothing since he hasn't played much. Easley - Hurt, another wasted pick, Next year will be his true rookie year, Won't make any impact until 2012 if he can stay healthy Moats - Been Hurt, shows some potential but doesn't start. Seems like he can make plays but isn't consistent. Batten - Hurt, another wasted pick, won't make team next year Levi Brown - Won't make this team next year if we draft a QB Callaway - Cut if we were selecting guys to play this year so we could compete then yes it's a poor draft. If you will notice on the good teams very few rookies are allowed to get on the field. We have figured out you don't draft guys to play THAT year. It took while but Nix knows what he is doing and has the track record to prove it- how about you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bisonbrigade Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 The bottom line is that we need to see more production from our rookies, which means that they have to play more. You know what you got from the veterans, it's time to see what the rookies got. They can't be much worse than the cream puffs on the field now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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