freester Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Byrd can't tackle, can't cover and doesn't hit anybody. Last year he had a bunch on interceptions on poorly thrown balls-that was a fluke. He was another wasted draft pick. He is our 4th best safety behind wilson, whitner, scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Byrd can't tackle, can't cover and doesn't hit anybody. Last year he had a bunch on interceptions on poorly thrown balls-that was a fluke. He was another wasted draft pick. He is our 4th best safety behind wilson, whitner, scott Funny ... I was thinking Lee Evans is the most overrated player on the Bills. If someone has 2 or 3 INTs, they could be flukes. You don't get 9 INTs as a fluke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsForever Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Definitely NOT overrated. It is known he has some problems with run support. However, he is biggest playmaker in our secondary. When you don't have a pass rush, these are the guys that you need. The guy just makes plays something that is lacking with the rest of our defense. He is only in his 2nd year and has shown pretty good awareness with all his interceptions. While he needs to still work on a few things there is a ton of upside. Something that can't be said for Whitner, Scott, Wilson. Those 3 are what they are - good back up players on most NFL teams. Byrd would be one of the few untouchable players on this team IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opfball91 Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 (edited) George is a far better player as it stands right now, let's not forget that Byrd is only a second year player returning from an injury. Tack on the fact that he's working with an entirely new coaching administration and defensive scheme. Give him time gugny is right, regardless of the quality of the interceptions he still got NINE interceptions so he had to be doing something right. Also, Scott is not a backup. That guy hits harder than LBs twice his size and he can cover, name me one time you've seen Scott blow a coverage to the degree of Whitner. Edited September 27, 2010 by opfball91 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 I don't think Moss getting wide open for a TD in front of Byrd and Whitner was a fluke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayman Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Well considering the literal definition of "over rated" Evans and Byrd are clearly the most over-rated on the team. That said, we have a lot of guys that suck on the team and they aren't those guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haven Moses Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Whitner should be the one grabbing some bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddog69 Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 no pass rush = very few interceptions because QBs have time to make good throws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanInUticaTampa Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 The thing about byrd is, not only was he a league leader in interceptions, but he was a league leader in tipped balls as well. The guy is a ball hawk and is great. The whole secondary (including byrd) isn't going to be as good as last year though. Last year we had kyle williams at DT and Schobol on the outside... the two of them were able to pressure the QB forcing him to throw into places with good coverage... this season, we have no schobol and williams is playing NT, which isn't easy to pressure the QB from. No secondary, however amazing they are, cannot cover the wideouts when they have all day to try to get open. Without a pass rush, teams are going to be able to throw the ball like crazy on us, even with a great secondary. So yeah, our strongest unit isn't even going to be able to play good this year.... which sucks. We need a pass rush just like we need a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KalvinoHernandez Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 i bet if byrd gets a couple picks next week you will talking about how great he is. wilson is good but you cant take a 9 int rookie season,in which im pretty sure he missed a few games, and bench the guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Yes, because pro bowl safeties that finish 2nd in defensive rookie of the year voting that lead the NFL in Int's while not even playing a full 16 games are often overrated... This has got to be one of the dumbest posts I have read and shows a startling lack of football IQ and understanding how things work in football... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Freester is on quite a trolling campaign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basskik11 Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 DUDE, you need a pass rush to cause INT's sometimes. The Bills don't have a pass rush. FACT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Point of View Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 NEWSFLASH, BYRD is playing hurt. About 85% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talley56 Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 no pass rush = very few interceptions because QBs have time to make good throws. DUDE, you need a pass rush to cause INT's sometimes. The Bills don't have a pass rush. FACT Couldn't have said it better myself!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lets_go_bills Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 (edited) 1. Bryd had 9 INTs in like 10 games. Hardly a fluke. Rather, that's consistency and he rightly made the Pro Bowl. 2. He's playing hurt. Very hurt. He's got an injured groin that is hampering him. He's a tough guy, he played hurt last year too. 3. They're easing him back into it and he's gotta get his legs under him and comfortable due to his injury and missed time in camp. 4. A Free Safety is a range player. You lose some of your range when you have an injured groin. It's a simple as that. 5. QBs are more cautious of him and his knack for INTs. 6. The absolute lack of a pass rush has a direct and adverse impact on DBs and the turnovers they generate, or lack thereof. Overrated? No. Best defensive player on our team? Yes. Edited September 27, 2010 by lets_go_bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvermike Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 I think Byrd is 'overrated' in the sense that he probably doesn't deserve to be considered the best Bills defender in a decade. But he's a good starter who shows a penchant for making big plays. I'm happy we have him, and I don't htink he's worse than George Wilson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPS Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 I'm always one for a good debate, but in this case I have to just say...Shut Up!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 George is a far better player as it stands right now, let's not forget that Byrd is only a second year player returning from an injury. Tack on the fact that he's working with an entirely new coaching administration and defensive scheme. Give him time gugny is right, regardless of the quality of the interceptions he still got NINE interceptions so he had to be doing something right. Also, Scott is not a backup. That guy hits harder than LBs twice his size and he can cover, name me one time you've seen Scott blow a coverage to the degree of Whitner. See Scott unable to cover Rob Gronkowski (4.65 in the 40-yard dash) for a touchdown, it was the 3rd or 4th quarter. In fact Whitner seemed to be the only safety up to covering tight ends Sunday as wilson got beat a bunch too. He was late on the TD to Moss, but they called press coverage on the down trying to prevent underneath pass No SS in the league covers Moss on the deep ball 4 from Press coverage. Brady had too much time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllDayADay Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 I'm always one for a good debate, but in this case I have to just say...Shut Up!! I agree.. A lot of qbs dont even try to test the byrdman.. They go to Donte side. We finally have a very talented ball-hawk and you have to make him into a bad player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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