truth on hold Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 As someone who supported Vick coming here, it sickens me to hear that Eagles have changed their mind and are starting him over a healthy Kolb. To get a pro bowler for a mere $1 million or two still in his prime was an absolute steal. Our QB problems would have been solved by now ... and we'd have the luxury of totally focusing on other areas of need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 Vick is getting about 5 mil a year just fyi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted September 21, 2010 Author Share Posted September 21, 2010 Vick is getting about 5 mil a year just fyi Mostly incentives, which means only if hes playing and performing does he get paid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FistingBot Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6G7fZ9kg7U It is early in the season still, but he appears to be performing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladiebla Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 That's not the Michael Vick that went to jail... Somebody totally reworked him and succeeded... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 Mostly incentives, which means only if hes playing and performing does he get paid. Vick will make $5.25M this year. He got a $1.5M roster bonus already, and has a $3.75M salary. If they want to re-sign him after the season, it will cost them a pretty penny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 What an absolutely amazing athlete. A disgusting human being, but an amazing athlete. That sack he avoided was Fluti-esque. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Syracuse Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 The guy is a piece of human garbage. I don't care how good of a QB he might be. I'd rather the Bills lose every game then start signing the bottom of the human barrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renfruzetz Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 What's sickening are his career stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bom Trady Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 (edited) Perhaps his morals slipped a bit but a piece of human garbage? There's far worst people in this world, he's made a big turn around for himself and is proving he can stay out of trouble. Vick isn't the best human being in the world, he's not trash though. Until he messes up again and shows otherwise I'll foot for him. People deserve a second chance in my mind. I can't agree with Reid's choice but he's the big guy, he's going to make the call in which he feels is best for his team. Vick looked great and brings a lot of things to the table that Kolb can't, they obviously see something in Kolb and he deserves a legit chance to show if he can prove himself. I think he deserves another chance to prove himself but when you're trying to win games now, I guess that's not a business risk you can take, trying to be fair. Edited September 22, 2010 by Bom Trady Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted September 22, 2010 Author Share Posted September 22, 2010 (edited) Mike, I'm an animal lover. Had several pets of all kinds growing up ... dogs, cats, rabbits, ducks, turtles, fish, etc. Have had one most of my adult life too. I thought it was absolutely horrible what he did, and I felt awful for the innocent dogs. Ive seen the victim of a forced pit bull fighting, and it's very sad. But all I can say is the apology speech he made was the most heart felt and honest I've ever seen from an athlete. It was totally ad libbed, not being written by speech writer or lawyer. Im sure it was against the advice of his attorney. I think he was truly sorry for his actions. After that he paid his well earned dues behind bars. Based on that, I was willing to forgive the guy. Edited September 22, 2010 by Joe_the_6_pack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Rob Johnson Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 Mostly incentives, which means only if hes playing and performing does he get paid. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4397938 "The first year of the deal is for $1.6 million with the second-year option worth $5.2 million, sources told ESPN's Chris Mortensen. Vick can also earn an additional $3 million in incentives over the two years of the contract, sources told ESPN.com's Len Pasquarelli." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 That's not the Michael Vick that went to jail... Somebody totally reworked him and succeeded... Whatever became of the Shooting at his Birthday Party, last June? He said he left before it happened but the security cameras contradict that. Of course the LAWYA says Michael was miles away. (swear up & down) It seems that even being near a crime scene would violate the terms of his return to the NFL. Even if the NFL is buying the story, Vick's still hanging around with same people as before. Should he even be playing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 (edited) The more film a team has on Vick, the less effective Vick becomes. The Eagles will learn the lesson the Falcons did. I wasn't a big fan of Vick to Buffalo. Not due to his personal transgressions, but that once you figure him out, he's very one-dimensional. The Lions had about a half a game of Vick to study. Vick hadn't played any meanigful, consistent down after down football in over two years. Now teams have an entire game of Vick to watch. Things will be different. Just like Seattle. Everyone was saying how awesome Seattle was after Week 1. That's because there was no film on Carroll or any of his assistants, and preseason is all vanilla packages and coverages. Denver had a week to study his game, and made the adjustments. This time next week, Philly fans will be waiting in line for the Kolbwagon or in full panic. Edited September 22, 2010 by dpberr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dog14787 Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 As someone who supported Vick coming here, it sickens me to hear that Eagles have changed their mind and are starting him over a healthy Kolb. To get a pro bowler for a mere $1 million or two still in his prime was an absolute steal. Our QB problems would have been solved by now ... and we'd have the luxury of totally focusing on other areas of need. It does bother me to Joe, what kind of team would we have had if we kept TO(can't believe I'm saying that) and brought Mike Vick in, OMG, can you imagine what we could be watching right now with the Bills. Not to mention the friggin media frenzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GR8PRKN Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 It does bother me to Joe, what kind of team would we have had if we kept TO(can't believe I'm saying that) and brought Mike Vick in, OMG, can you imagine what we could be watching right now with the Bills. Not to mention the friggin media frenzy Dog, I think Vick is a complete scum bag for what he did! That being said he paid his debt and it is time to move on..... And Yes it would be a high powered offense with a lot of scoring... Imagine If we had a pas rushing LB too, but I digress we are who we thought we were... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Philster Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 The guy is a piece of human garbage. I don't care how good of a QB he might be. I'd rather the Bills lose every game then start signing the bottom of the human barrel. ditto on that...it'd be like selling your soul to the devil....and it's not like he's ever been more than an average QB...get some more game film on him and he'll crash back to Earth Perhaps his morals slipped a bit but a piece of human garbage? There's far worst people in this world, he's made a big turn around for himself and is proving he can stay out of trouble. Vick isn't the best human being in the world, he's not trash though. Until he messes up again and shows otherwise I'll foot for him. People deserve a second chance in my mind. I can't agree with Reid's choice but he's the big guy, he's going to make the call in which he feels is best for his team. Vick looked great and brings a lot of things to the table that Kolb can't, they obviously see something in Kolb and he deserves a legit chance to show if he can prove himself. I think he deserves another chance to prove himself but when you're trying to win games now, I guess that's not a business risk you can take, trying to be fair. He's a sex offender and also spent 6 years torturing and killing dogs, some of which were taken off the streets...their families never knew what happened to them. His favorite phrase seems to be "It's unfortunate this happened to me." That's something said by someone who believes himself to be a victim, not someone who's remorseful in the least and that's the biggest issue as far as I'm concerned...his lack of genuine remorse. Whatever became of the Shooting at his Birthday Party, last June? He said he left before it happened but the security cameras contradict that. Of course the LAWYA says Michael was miles away. (swear up & down) It seems that even being near a crime scene would violate the terms of his return to the NFL. Even if the NFL is buying the story, Vick's still hanging around with same people as before. Should he even be playing? No, he shouldn't be but Goodell is coddling him since he came back to the league, the same commissioner who was supposed to be tough on the troublemakers. Guess Goodell just wants to pretend that allowing this convicted felon back in the league wasn't as stupid an idea that many of us knew it would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 Vick is not a good human being based on his body of work, but he can do some good things on a football field if he's utilized correctly. We've all worked with plenty of jerks. The Eagles have obviously decided that Vick's history doesn't disrupt the team enough not to take that gamble, and he's obviously reconciled with them enough to win their confidence on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dog14787 Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 (edited) Dog, I think Vick is a complete scum bag for what he did! That being said he paid his debt and it is time to move on..... And Yes it would be a high powered offense with a lot of scoring... Imagine If we had a pas rushing LB too, but I digress we are who we thought we were... and you know GR8 My biggest beef with TO was dissing Trent Edwards, to me that was something you just don't do to your starter,but turns out TO was correct, Gailey/Nix probably came in here thinking the same thing, TO is going to cause problems, When in truth TO probably just wanted a QB that would throw him the damn ball, I mean that is all TO ever wants, and can you blame him. Edited September 22, 2010 by dog14787 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 Screw the friggin do-gooders! Show me the baby! Show me a QB! Get me Mike Vick.....Pronto! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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