bartshan-83 Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 Just finished watching the Phillies ass whipping and caught some Eagles training camp coverage. I know they aren't Bills anymore, but just some notes: Peters - described his own play last year (Probowl) as a "6.5/7 out of 10" - looked in great shape. took part in his first ever voluntary conditioning program this offseason. Loved this quote "coming in [to training camp] in shape really helps." April - was running all around like a madman yelling and blowing his whistle - was wearing a referees uniform. he said he does it to help keep the players attention while they practice plays. he said he's been doing this for 8-9 years. I have no memory of that. I do miss that guy. Truly the one bright coaching spot of the past decade. Nothing groundbreaking...I was just watching and thought I'd pass it along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 Thanks. Good stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 What - no notes on Jauron? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilsner Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 What - no notes on Jauron? Beat me to it. Maybe he'll one up April and wear his skeletor uniform. He's a bad HC but he'll probably do a decent job with their secondary. Andy Reid will most likely go nuts when the next draft comes along and Jauron will be lobbying hard for 7 new corners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 I hate Jason Peters and wish him the worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowery4 Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 It is hard to notice a db coach in th NFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 It is hard to notice a db coach in th NFL Say what you want to about Jauron, but he knows defensive backs. He left us with one of the best secondaries in the NFL. And in a pass first league, that's not a bad thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowery4 Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 Say what you want to about Jauron, but he knows defensive backs. He left us with one of the best secondaries in the NFL. And in a pass first league, that's not a bad thing. Ok I will say what I will, after the 4 year train wreck that was the nightmare of coach Jarhead, I am only happy he left us with a decent secondary, but it is no surprise since that is where so many draft choices/FA pick ups were. But good luck to Bobby A. this year, I would have liked to see him finish the season as HC last year. I am happy we got De Haven back though too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 Ok I will say what I will, after the 4 year train wreck that was the nightmare of coach Jarhead, I am only happy he left us with a decent secondary, but it is no surprise since that is where so many draft choices/FA pick ups were.But good luck to Bobby A. this year, I would have liked to see him finish the season as HC last year. I am happy we got De Haven back though too. We have a top 3 secondary. And 3 corners are on the field more than 50% of the time now so you need a lot of quality dbs. Jauron had a lot of faults but he knows defensive back talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarolinaBill Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 peters being in shape will help, april is the best ST coach in the league, it will be no surprise if phili improves under his tuteledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson from Gamehendge Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 Say what you want to about Jauron, but he knows defensive backs. He left us with one of the best secondaries in the NFL. And in a pass first league, that's not a bad thing. I hate Dick Jauron and wish him nothing but the worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson from Gamehendge Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 I hate Jason Peters and wish him the worst. Yeah I would hate a guy who came in as an UDFA and BUSTED his ass to learn a whole new position...not to mention, all the while becoming the best at that position. He did everything he was asked to do from Day 1...he caught Losman's first TD pass, he blocked a kick/punt (for a TD? cant remember)...he switched from Right to Left... He made it to the Pro-Bowl as a Left Tackle...and he deserved to be paid as a Pro-Bowl LT...not an UDFA TE. Can't say **** about him being injury prone....our whole god damn organization has been injured for 10 years! The dude did what we asked him to do, to the best of his ability...which is Pro-Bowl caliber...and Bills fans hate him? He has been the best O-Lineman we have had in like 10 years, we still have NOT found a replacement for him and there is nobody even close to his athletic ability as an O-Lineman on this team. We do not have one single Lineman who is Pro-Bowl caliber...except Eric Wood, but there are TONS of good Guards in the AFC. Bottom Line: We would be better off with him...than we are without him! Why hate him? Cause he held out for money...well, in that case...I hate CJ Spiller! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 Yeah I would hate a guy who came in as an UDFA and BUSTED his ass to learn a whole new position...not to mention, all the while becoming the best at that position. He did everything he was asked to do from Day 1...he caught Losman's first TD pass, he blocked a kick/punt (for a TD? cant remember)...he switched from Right to Left... He made it to the Pro-Bowl as a Left Tackle...and he deserved to be paid as a Pro-Bowl LT...not an UDFA TE. Can't say **** about him being injury prone....our whole god damn organization has been injured for 10 years! The dude did what we asked him to do, to the best of his ability...which is Pro-Bowl caliber...and Bills fans hate him? He has been the best O-Lineman we have had in like 10 years, we still have NOT found a replacement for him and there is nobody even close to his athletic ability as an O-Lineman on this team. We do not have one single Lineman who is Pro-Bowl caliber...except Eric Wood, but there are TONS of good Guards in the AFC. Bottom Line: We would be better off with him...than we are without him! Why hate him? Cause he held out for money...well, in that case...I hate CJ Spiller! I'm not 100% sure, but Biscuit is usually pretty level-headed, so I'd hazard that he was being sarcastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 Why hate him? Cause he held out for money...well, in that case...I hate CJ Spiller! No good can come from this, but Peters renegotiating his contract became a regular thing. And he went about it in a way that would have gotten most people fired. This is the source of the animosity. He first signed in 2004, then renegotiated in 2006 (to indicate his position as a starting tackle), and held out in 2008, again wanting a new contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 I hate Jason Peters and wish him the worst. A team which is known for losing refuses to pay him the market rate for his position. A team which is known for consistently winning trades for him and comes to a quick contract agreement. Their LT position is anchored and set for the next number of years. As it presently stands our LT position is a major vulnerability. If in the next draft the Bills take an OT with a high first round pick the cost for a prospect would be greater or near what a proven OT is presently getting. There are obvious reasons why the Bills are where they are. There are obvious reasons why the Eagles are where they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 If in the next draft the Bills take an OT with a high first round pick the cost for a prospect would be greater or near what a proven OT is presently getting. Not in the event a rookie salary cap is implemented, which is likely at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 A team which is known for losing refuses to pay him the market rate for his position. A team which is known for consistently winning trades for him and comes to a quick contract agreement. Their LT position is anchored and set for the next number of years. As it presently stands our LT position is a major vulnerability. If in the next draft the Bills take an OT with a high first round pick the cost for a prospect would be greater or near what a proven OT is presently getting. There are obvious reasons why the Bills are where they are. There are obvious reasons why the Eagles are where they are. So far, Peters has proven that the Bills were right in trading him away. His presence wouldn't have led to more wins last year and his performance is far below what he's being paid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 Say what you want to about Jauron, but he knows defensive backs. He left us with one of the best secondaries in the NFL. And in a pass first league, that's not a bad thing. A secondary with 1 pro-bowl player. Two Top-15 picks and the Secondary be at least average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 Say what you want to about Jauron, but he knows defensive backs. He left us with one of the best secondaries in the NFL. And in a pass first league, that's not a bad thing. A secondary with 1 pro-bowl player. Two Top-15 picks and the Secondary be at least average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 So far, Peters has proven that the Bills were right in trading him away. His presence wouldn't have led to more wins last year and his performance is far below what he's being paid. No one player was going to make a major difference in wins last year because the team was in general devoid of talent. Letting one of the better players on the team go is not a way to get better, it is a way to continue to not be good. Last year, Peters was plagued with a bad ankle. He is one of the better OTs in the league. The current tackles on our roster are simply inadequate. The Bills got worse with JP's departure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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