mpl6876 Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 With all do respect San Jose, I do not think this forum is appropriate for us to debate one another. This is a forum to discuss the Bills and like it or not that is what I intend to do. You can continue to "sling mud" and make incorrect statements/assessments. I will not respond to them. Now, like talk about the Bills...Currently speaking: (1) I am not happy with our offensive line. Don't like our LT( Meridith or Bell) and RT (Green). I think our center Hartgardner is average. I really like Levitre and a healthy Woods. Bottom line is a think teams will expose our tackle positions. Are you happy with the OL? I am disappointed that the Bills haven't addressed a LT position in either of the last 2 drafts. Wang is a project and I hope he works out...Stated this in prior post. (2) I am not happy with our current QB situation. I don't think any of our 4 QBs are top 15 material. Are you happy with our current QB roster? Stated in prior post that I think the Bills "missed the boat" on not picking Clausen at 41. Received many responses from hopeful fans that Galiey can make one of our QB productive. I stated skepticism regarding this due to weak OL and weak WR personnel. Was this so out of line? (3) I am not happy with our WR roster. LEE EVANS IS MY FAVORITE BILL and I think he is a stud. After that, I don't see much. Johnson unproven, Easley raw, Parrish I don't like, and Hardy appears lost having difficulty separating and learning routes (not to mention coming off a serious injury). Are you happy with the Bills WR core? Was this so out of line? Stated poor OL, QB, and WR personnel doesn't equate to winning many games. Is that so out of line? (4) I am fully anticipating Schobel is going to retire. IMO, he is our only bonafide pass rusher. Maybin is young raw and learning new position. As a result, I don't know how effective he will be. Are you happy with our pass rush? Stated in prior post wish the Bills would have picked Orakpo. Easy to say after the fact but on that draft day I wanted Oher badly or Orakpo. Time will tell on the Maybin pick. Previous post stated Maybin appears to be a bust. Too early to tell in hindsight . Not really a correct statement to make. I stand corrected. (5) Are you confident the Bills can stop the run? This has been a nemesis of our for the past few years. Trope pick has addressed this situation. I have stated I was unhappy with this pick. I like the guys motor and attitude. However, I think the Bills could have gotten him much later (round 3,4 or 5). Cody and Thomas were also on the board. Time will tell. I have my doubts that this unit with a new scheme and unproven DC is going to be able to effectively stop the run...Stated in prior post I think Pery Fewell will be missed. (I do like the LB Davis we picked up from Denver) (6) I have spoken about Chan Gailey's track record as a head coach in college and the NFL. IMO, it is a definite upgrade from Juaron. That's being an arm chair fan. I remember when DICK Jauron was hired and I liked the hire. I liked his defensive mindset and his ability to communicate with his players. I liked the direction Levy was taking...I was the one oozing with enthusiasm. Boy was I ever wrong........ Could we all be wrong with Gailey/NIX? With todays NFL coaching carousel how come coach Gailey wasn't snagged up by any other team prior to us? Just a thought? Yet, when I show skepticism regarding Gailey and Nix I get crucified. Just food for thought. How did Wade Philips do with the Bills? (7) I really like the Bills secondary and special teams. I am glad Bruce D is back. (8) Piror post indicated teams are likely to "stack the box," run blitz, and have thier DB/LB "squat" sit on short passes. Those forces the Bills to beat them with a intermediate/long passing game. I stated that I didn't think the Bills could be successful doing this because of a weak OL, QB, and WR. Not to mention the double teams Lee with have to endure. I am not a ciach and I don;t know what Gailey has in mind. I have yet to hear a fan tell me how they think the Bills can overcome and beat this defensive scheme... (9) Every time I ask you to respond to comments like" what have you been saying about the Bills for the past several years? Have you been saying the same basic thing after every regime change? I never seem to get a response with the exception of being a TROLL. Prior post predicted Bills would be 4-12. Is that so out of line? Wondering if a Bills fan has a right to criticize his team and vent years of frustration? Wondering why it is so "taboo"not to paint a rosey picture of the Bills? Wondering why it is ok to post positive things but not ok to post negative things? Wondering why negative post are seen as whinning? Wondering if anyone has ever thought that some fans are sick of hearing fans "talk up the Bills" when the evidence is just not there? These last 5 questions are rhetorical....(San Jose if you don't now what that means look it up or I will assist you) San Jose, thanks for passing me the ball. You just got dunked on. Game over. Be a man and respond by not attacking. Lets hear some valid counter points. I welcome everyone's feedback positive or negative. Also, I just watched the NFL network and the Bills ranked 29th out of 32 teams. I am not surprised. Jaimie DUkes and Charles Davis pretty much "echoed" what I (and others here) have been saying on the forum. Are they so out of line with their comments? I would like to hear what you guys think. I don't need to here about the other crap that has been going on...Lets talk football! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayFinkle Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 Cliff notes please... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spillerwich Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 Good post! I think your right on the ball with everything. I am trying really hard to be optimistic about this year. I can't wait to see them hit and get the pads on. Then we will start to see the separation of players. I think Edwards is going to get the start at QB. Spiller will be a major impact for us this year too. Just his presence on the field might take some pressure off Edwards enough to make some plays more than 5 yards down the field. Our D has many questions. what do you expect from a team changing the entire scheme. Optimistic!! That's all I can say Lets Go Buffalo!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 Honestly I can't read posts that are longer than 3 paragraphs. I must have ADD or something. That or these long posts really are boring. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpl6876 Posted June 11, 2010 Author Share Posted June 11, 2010 Good post! I think your right on the ball with everything. I am trying really hard to be optimistic about this year. I can't wait to see them hit and get the pads on. Then we will start to see the separation of players. I think Edwards is going to get the start at QB. Spiller will be a major impact for us this year too. Just his presence on the field might take some pressure off Edwards enough to make some plays more than 5 yards down the field. Our D has many questions. what do you expect from a team changing the entire scheme. Optimistic!! That's all I can say Lets Go Buffalo!!!! Thanks for you reply. I am going to try my best not to be so negative. I will try to drink some of your positive optimistic cool aid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 Sweet Jesus I'm trying to read this on an I-Touch! You have enough material for 5 threads! Don't think you're negative, just too long for a post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteski Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 I agree with Gailey is better than Jauron. I think Miley Cyrus would be better than Jauron. I like Gaily tho and I am willing to give him any benifits of the doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mob16151 Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 Strangely, according to PFF Meredith graded out very well. If he would have played enough snaps to qualify, he wqould have graded out as a top 10 nfl LT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hossage Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 Why is it that I dislike you so much? Mob, my apologies, it is mpl6876 that I dislike. Its not personal, it is just that as a poster on here, I dont like him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mob16151 Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 Why is it that I dislike you so much? Because I enjoy Tom Holt novels? We'll go with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobDVA Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 If you every time you see a man, and you point out the imperfections of said mans wife or girlfriend, eventually, you are going to get a punch in your eye. Most of the informed people here are aware of the imperfections of our beloved Bills. Do we constantly need them rammed up our a$$. I think not! I understand the concept that if you convince yourself that things are going to be bad then it will not be such a downer when the badness comes to fruition. Yellowstone is the one of the worlds largest volcanoes, a super volcano that erupts around every six hundred thousand years or so. It last erupted sometime around six hundred thousand years ago. I choose to believe that it will hold off for another 25, 30 years or so until I am out of here. I also choose to believe that the Bills will be improved this year over last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 Yellowstone is the one of the worlds largest volcanoes, a super volcano that erupts around every six hundred thousand years or so. It last erupted sometime around six hundred thousand years ago. I choose to believe that it will hold off for another 25, 30 years or so until I am out of here. I also choose to believe that the Bills will be improved this year over last year. Oh you're just drinking the Yellowstone cool-aid!!!! That bad boy is going up this year just to underscore how bad our LT situation is and because we didn't take Clausen. I can just see it coming...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFFALOTONE Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 Cliff notes please... He's not happy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delete This Account Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 He's not happy... yes, and he doesn't want to debate San Jose but winds up throwing down the gauntlet in a bid to debate him. San Jose: it's your move. your first assignment is to define: Rhetorical. ... Go! jw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 Cliff notes please... Prelude) Mud slinging in San Jose Ch 1) He's not happy. Ch 2 ) He's not happy. Ch 3 ) He is still not happy. Ch 4 ) He dislikes Schobel Ch 5) He does not like "Trope" or Troupe Ch 6 ) Things are starting to get brighter. Ch 7 ) He is happy Ch 8 ) Now becoming unsure Ch 9) Something about a TROLL Ch 10-15 ) Rhetoric End) He likes football but not the Bills, . . . This year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrFishfinder Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 Prelude) Mud slinging in San Jose Ch 1) He's not happy. Ch 2 ) He's not happy. Ch 3 ) He is still not happy. Ch 4 ) He dislikes Schobel Ch 5) He does not like "Trope" or Troupe Ch 6 ) Things are starting to get brighter. Ch 7 ) He is happy Ch 8 ) Now becoming unsure Ch 9) Something about a TROLL Ch 10-15 ) Rhetoric End) He likes football but not the Bills, . . . This year. MUCH better. I actually laughed after these! ....and I needed a laugh, today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsRUs Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 Hey mpl, I haven't been posting here long, but I have noticed a trend of sorts. After every losing season we tend to indulge in a bit of Bills bashing, wallow in our failure, curse our players, the coaching staff, old RW and everything Bills. Hope always springs eternal though and we start looking forward to the draft, always hoping things will get better. When you've sunk as low as we have, there is no way to look but up. There will always be naysayers, who keep harping about how we will never amount to anything, how the coaching sucks, player sucks, scheme sucks..whatever. They usually start around the time we start our losing streak and go on till OTAs. Suffice to say, the act wears thin. You are not the only one sick of losing. Most of the naysayers and doom 'n' gloomers quiet down by OTAs. Its a fresh start and we all want our Bills to succeed. We want to give them a chance because lets face it, crying about our failures is getting quite boring after 10 years. I respect your opinion. I just think our feelings about the Bills tend to reflect a sine wave and right now most of us are high on optimism and are looking forward to the season. I think thats why you're facing a lot of flak. Most of what you've been saying has been said by countless other people for six months or so now. Most of us have got it out of our system. Welcome to the board and I hope this season gives you something positive to talk about. P.S... Sorry no cliff notes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 (6) I have spoken about Chan Gailey's track record as a head coach in college and the NFL. IMO, it is a definite upgrade from Juaron. That's being an arm chair fan. I remember when DICK Jauron was hired and I liked the hire. I liked his defensive mindset and his ability to communicate with his players. I liked the direction Levy was taking...I was the one oozing with enthusiasm. Boy was I ever wrong........ Could we all be wrong with Gailey/NIX? With todays NFL coaching carousel how come coach Gailey wasn't snagged up by any other team prior to us? Just a thought? Yet, when I show skepticism regarding Gailey and Nix I get crucified. Just food for thought. How did Wade Philips do with the Bills? So you liked the coach who had a losing record and not rack record of success? I sense that you make excellent decisions. I have some financial questions and I would like your advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills in va Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 Dude thanks for regurgitating our team weaknesses. I'll make it simple, watch how I do this, you'll have more time to be a moron and less time to type nonsense! 1. Our OLine is weak at the tackles 2. Our QB's are average or worse 3. Our WR's are unproven except for Evans whom you show manlove for 4. Maybin sucked last year and when you saw Blindside you became an Oher fan 5. We should have hired Cowher See that took me about 1 minute, now I have time to bone my wife, play golf or watch Operation Repo on DVR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsRUs Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 Dude thanks for regurgitating our team weaknesses. I'll make it simple, watch how I do this, you'll have more time to be a moron and less time to type nonsense!1. Our OLine is weak at the tackles 2. Our QB's are average or worse 3. Our WR's are unproven except for Evans whom you show manlove for 4. Maybin sucked last year and when you saw Blindside you became an Oher fan 5. We should have hired Cowher See that took me about 1 minute, now I have time to bone my wife, play golf or watch Operation Repo on DVR LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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