Billy in 4C Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 Anybody else suprised Davis is our #1 ILB? Dude was a backup last year. All of a sudden he's our guy because he's played the 3-4? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StamerforPrez Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 Here we go again.. NFL thugs glorifying dogfighting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 Anybody else suprised Davis is our #1 ILB? Dude was a backup last year. All of a sudden he's our guy because he's played the 3-4? Not surprised at all. Experience counts. If someone beats him out it tells us that maybe that person is a legitimate 3-4 ILB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 Anybody else suprised Davis is our #1 ILB? Dude was a backup last year. All of a sudden he's our guy because he's played the 3-4? No, he started 13 games alongside D.J. Williams in Denver last year and finished with 65 solo tackles and 3.5 sacks. http://www.nfl.com/players/andradavis/profile?id=DAV121395 He was extremely effective playing that role for them, as you'll see here: http://profootballfocus.com/by_position.ph...&numgames=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theranter Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 Ding Ding Ding! Great answer....so many of us Bills fans get cought up with the player/flavor of the month. Last year, all the folks saying Langston Walker...then Bell then this guy or this 5th round draft pick is gonna make our O-Line great.....yeah....right. But the coach says...and his pre-draft bio says.....high-motor, never takes a play off....lives in the weight room, eat breathes and.....you get the idea. Don't believe the hype! Our O-line is the definition of a work in progress......and probably an early work. What do you mean? We're stacking players on players....Bell; 8 starts -status: injured, Wang; rookie -status injured, Meredith; 1,2? dunno -status: healthy I guess... Edwards is gunna play like Tom Brady this year! look out afc east! GO BILLS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabe Northern Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 That Mitchell would be cut was plain as day as soon as Davis was signed. This team does not pay veterans for depth. Think about the decision to cut Langston Walker rather than pay him $3 M as a back up...now the team is going to pay the same coin to Mitchell as a second stringer? Come on. http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/index.php?...aded&start= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy in 4C Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 No, he started 13 games alongside D.J. Williams in Denver last year and finished with 65 solo tackles and 3.5 sacks. http://www.nfl.com/players/andradavis/profile?id=DAV121395 He was extremely effective playing that role for them, as you'll see here: http://profootballfocus.com/by_position.ph...&numgames=1 Good call. Let's hope you're right. Torber isn't looking too good on that list... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson from Gamehendge Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 It didn't have John's byline but I'm assuming it's his work. And of course ESPN puts a picture of our buddy Tim Graham next to the piece. Anyways, good stuff. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?i...ce=NFLHeadlines So, if he is involved in a "dog fight", then why doesn't everyone hate him as much as Vick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted June 7, 2010 Author Share Posted June 7, 2010 Here we go again.. NFL thugs glorifying dogfighting. So, if he is involved in a "dog fight", then why doesn't everyone hate him as much as Vick? Well it's early. Right now he's just barking. He has not yet begun to bite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justnzane Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 IIRC Mitchell didplay ILB for KC when they changed to a 3-4 at one point. that said, I see mitchell probably playing SLB with Kelsay backing him up, and Maybin and Ellis fighting for WLB. Just my $.02 EDIT: from what i read KC was 4-3 but mitchell does have experience inside. That said, Mitchell I see playing outside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hossage Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 Anybody else suprised Davis is our #1 ILB? Dude was a backup last year. All of a sudden he's our guy because he's played the 3-4? No, I am not surprised davis is where he is. I thought he should have been the starter in cleveland last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 It didn't have John's byline but I'm assuming it's his work. And of course ESPN puts a picture of our buddy Tim Graham next to the piece. Anyways, good stuff. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?i...ce=NFLHeadlines Hope he loses that fight; can't wait for the day the Bills cut him loose. He's probably my least favorite Bill of all-time, with his annoying tweets, poor-angle tackling, short arms, and molasses-like speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthICE Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 Gotta love the competition. Agreed. Make them all fight for jobs week in and week out and the whole team becomes better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 Hope he loses that fight; can't wait for the day the Bills cut him loose. He's probably my least favorite Bill of all-time, with his annoying tweets, poor-angle tackling, short arms, and molasses-like speed. Dumbest reason ever to hate a player. "I hate him because I choose to follow someone's else life because mine is so boring and I don't like what he writes." Mitchell was our best pass rusher in 2008 and made the most big palys for any Bills LB since Spikes' pro bowl year. He is not ideal for a 3-4 but I like the guy and if he could start for a SB champ, if healthy, he could make an impact here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 Dumbest reason ever to hate a player. "I hate him because I choose to follow someone's else life because mine is so boring and I don't like what he writes." Mitchell was our best pass rusher in 2008 and made the most big palys for any Bills LB since Spikes' pro bowl year. He is not ideal for a 3-4 but I like the guy and if he could start for a SB champ, if healthy, he could make an impact here. He's awful. That's why I dislike him. It's great that he can run in a straight line at the QB when unimpeded, and had one good game against San Diego several years ago, but he takes the worst angles of any player on the team and can't cover worth anything. And I don't subscribe to twitter or follow him; his tweets are reported on every news outlet, and the content of what he says suggests that he's not all that interested in winning, the Bills, or the fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mob16151 Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 Kawika Mitchell says he's in a dogfight for his job In breaking news Mike Vick just requested a trade to Buffalo. To Soon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nateodoms'bff Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 I think that Gailey is putting everyone on even ground at all possitions not just QB.I don't think Poz is far and away better than any of the LB's that we have. I don't think Poz is about to lose his job but he has below average instincts for a LB which is just one of the factors why we faired so poorly against the run. Mitchell does have better instincts and is stronger at the point of attack. Which is probably why Poz is trying to bulk up which I think is smart. Let's face it Poz is missing half of the time anyway. Don't be surprised if the competition for ILB turns out to be between Mitchell and Poz. Keep in mind there are no great LB's on this team...they are all expendable. I am hoping that some of the new talent proves to be better than than Poz and Mitchell..thats the only way we will get better. Gailey wants all of the LB's to be able to call the plays. It will be interesting how it shakes out. But I think it's smart for Mitchell to realize he is in a dog fight at LB...all of the LB's should realize this. You couldnt be more wrong about Poz. He has tremendous instincts as run stopper, he tackles as good as Beason and Willis. He has great pass defense instincts, he has been at the top of the league in pass break ups for LB's, and if you havent noticed he has been on fire this off season. he has bulked up so that he doesn't "disappear" when attacking the line. The competition is going to be for the back up position, unless Mitchell moves outside, which I wouldnt be surprised if we see him outside on 3rd downs. Poz may not be the biggest ILB in the league, but he will excel in this new system. He now can play free and use his football instincts to attack the run and pass, instead of having to cover the entire middle of the field like he did in the 4-3. Having to cover for Ellison and the rest of the scrubs that played LB for this team since he joined the Bills will make any player look "mediocre". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 Kawika Mitchell says he's in a dogfight for his job In breaking news Mike Vick just requested a trade to Buffalo. To Soon? No, it's too soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 Don't be surprised if the competition for ILB turns out to be between Mitchell and Poz.Keep in mind there are no great LB's on this team...they are all expendable. You make a good point. There are no difference makers either on the DL or LB positions. None of those position players can be considered essential type players. In general, they can be categorized as solid players at best. They are interchangeable with none considered to be a standout player. Players such as the LB for the 49ers, Willis and the DT for the Ravnes, Ngata, are impact players whose presence would be sorely missed if they couldn't play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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