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Every year the Bills reach on players they could have had later in the draft. If they are going to reach, why don't they trade down for more picks. Troup could have been had in the third round and we could have gained another pick by trading down. The Bills rarely get good value out of their picks.

 

Just watch, in the third round they will reach for a prospect they could have had in the fourth or fifth round.

 

My honest opinion is if we don't trade Whitner or Lynch for an extra early round pick with good value that fills a legitimate need, this draft is a bust and will receive a poor grade.

 

I mean even Detroit and Oakland are doing well in this years draft. This could be the defining draft that shows that the Bills front office really has no clue. The Bills really are the laughing stock of the league.

 

Outside of Jacksonville's first round pick, the Troup pick is the biggest reach so far in the draft based on what was still available.

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Funny I thought we were running a 3-4 this year? That requires a NT that doesn't move. He isn't a pass rusher, he takes up space so LB's can attack. Troup is the best in this draft, yes even over the over hyped cody, at doing just that.

 

So this front office so far has taken the most explosive player in the draft and the NT for our needs in the draft.

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Who thought Clausen would fall that far? The draft is full of unknowns. Nothing is certain and it's tough to predict who'll where and when.

 

It's not a reach when you draft a player who fills a huge need for you and is exactly the player you want with all the qualities and abilities you desire.

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Funny I thought we were running a 3-4 this year? That requires a NT that doesn't move. He isn't a pass rusher, he takes up space so LB's can attack. Troup is the best in this draft, yes even over the over hyped cody, at doing just that.

Dude, you have never watched a CF game in your life so just stop. And who are the Bills LB's going to attack? Kelsay and Maybin are not scaring anyone. What does the inside of Nix's colon look like anyway?

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Dude, you have never watched a CF game in your life so just stop. And who are the Bills LB's going to attack? Kelsay and Maybin are not scaring anyone. What does the inside of Nix's colon look like anyway?

Kelsay and Maybin aren't even starting LBs on this team.

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Every year the Bills reach on players they could have had later in the draft. If they are going to reach, why don't they trade down for more picks. Troup could have been had in the third round and we could have gained another pick by trading down. The Bills rarely get good value out of their picks.

 

Just watch, in the third round they will reach for a prospect they could have had in the fourth or fifth round.

 

My honest opinion is if we don't trade Whitner or Lynch for an extra early round pick with good value that fills a legitimate need, this draft is a bust and will receive a poor grade.

 

I mean even Detroit and Oakland are doing well in this years draft. This could be the defining draft that shows that the Bills front office really has no clue. The Bills really are the laughing stock of the league.

 

Outside of Jacksonville's first round pick, the Troup pick is the biggest reach so far in the draft based on what was still available.

Wow, how much thought and research did you really put into this? If we picked cody or thomas would it of been ok? Troup was the best DT with the best value on the board. Cody is a fat slob who can only play 15-20 reps a game and has serious weight issues. FYI this team is in serious overhall, and it starts with playmakers and toughness in the trenches.

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Who would you they have rather taken? Cody? Please, that guy is just as likely to eat himself out of the NFL as he is to be a future Pro Bowler.

 

Troup is a fine pick. He is a true 3-4 NT. He's in great shape and has great power. What more do you want?

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Every year the Bills reach on players they could have had later in the draft. If they are going to reach, why don't they trade down for more picks. Troup could have been had in the third round and we could have gained another pick by trading down. The Bills rarely get good value out of their picks.

 

Just watch, in the third round they will reach for a prospect they could have had in the fourth or fifth round.

 

My honest opinion is if we don't trade Whitner or Lynch for an extra early round pick with good value that fills a legitimate need, this draft is a bust and will receive a poor grade.

 

I mean even Detroit and Oakland are doing well in this years draft. This could be the defining draft that shows that the Bills front office really has no clue. The Bills really are the laughing stock of the league.

 

Outside of Jacksonville's first round pick, the Troup pick is the biggest reach so far in the draft based on what was still available.

The guy has not played a down in the NFL and you are calling him a failure? I'm guessing you have never seen him play and you are worried about some writer grading the Bills draft?

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Dude, you have never watched a CF game in your life so just stop. And who are the Bills LB's going to attack? Kelsay and Maybin are not scaring anyone. What does the inside of Nix's colon look like anyway?

 

I would immagine the same as your throat with the **** you constantly spew.

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My honest opinion is if we don't trade Whitner or Lynch for an extra early round pick with good value that fills a legitimate need, this draft is a bust and will receive a poor grade.

 

Ahhhh. So is that what it's all about? Someone's grade. And who's grade are we concerned about? :D

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Nolan Nawrocki has him rated the 92 best prospect.

 

I would have taken the following DT before Troup

 

Al Woods

C. Thomas

L. Houston

L. Joseph

 

or the following LT's

 

Charles Brown

Ducasse

 

or the following Qb's

 

Clausen

 

Don't get me wrong he works for me in the third round but not a high second round pick with all these other players available.

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Al Woods

C. Thomas

L. Houston

L. Joseph

 

or the following LT's

 

Charles Brown

Ducasse

 

or the following Qb's

 

Clausen

 

Don't get me wrong he works for me in the third round but not a high second round pick with all these other players available.

 

Ducasse is a LT? :D

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As an actual UCF season ticket holder, I have to say Troup is a solid pick, yeah, maybe a little high for what the analysts were saying but he fills a major need. UCF was much like the Bills last year, horrible offense especially QB play but the D kept them in most games and Troup was the key cog in the middle. He made Bruce Miller (UCF DE) look like Bruce Smith at times.

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Oh, just some guy who watches thousands more hours of tape and has more college contacts than anyone on TSW...

 

http://pfwweb.goisg.net/PFW/NFLDraft/Scout.../rock022507.htm

 

 

The way we see it: Did not live up to expectations as a senior and underachieved on an underachieving defense. A love-or-hate type of talent whom some scouts see as strictly a pass-rush specialist. Evaluators who go back and watch Moses early in his career will be able to see beyond his average senior production. Similar to former Troy DE DeMarcus Ware, Florida State DE Kamerion Wimbley and North Carolina State DE Manny Lawson, all of whom fit into the first round but elicited widely divergent grades from scouts. Moses fits the bill as a rush linebacker or finesse speed rusher and is too smart, too athletic and has been too productive in a big-time conference over the span of his career not to develop into a solid pass rusher in the pros.

 

Today Quentin Moses is already with his 3rd team and has 1.5 career sacks. These "expert" opinions/rankings need to be taken with a grain of salt.

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Funny I thought we were running a 3-4 this year? That requires a NT that doesn't move. He isn't a pass rusher, he takes up space so LB's can attack. Troup is the best in this draft, yes even over the over hyped cody, at doing just that.

 

So this front office so far has taken the most explosive player in the draft and the NT for our needs in the draft.

Must be a bust then..... :thumbsup:

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So boxOlife thinks that the Bills failed on there 2nd round pick again? Well this immediately makes him an f'n retard for the bills 2nd rounders last year (Byrd and Levitre) are considered failed picks according to him. Is a probowler and a solid starting guard not good enough for you? Now your opinion on Troup is irrelevant because obviously you are mentally challenged

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Every year the Bills reach on players they could have had later in the draft. If they are going to reach, why don't they trade down for more picks. Troup could have been had in the third round and we could have gained another pick by trading down. The Bills rarely get good value out of their picks.

 

Just watch, in the third round they will reach for a prospect they could have had in the fourth or fifth round.

 

My honest opinion is if we don't trade Whitner or Lynch for an extra early round pick with good value that fills a legitimate need, this draft is a bust and will receive a poor grade.

 

I mean even Detroit and Oakland are doing well in this years draft. This could be the defining draft that shows that the Bills front office really has no clue. The Bills really are the laughing stock of the league.

 

Outside of Jacksonville's first round pick, the Troup pick is the biggest reach so far in the draft based on what was still available.

you read to many draft magazines. give these players a chance

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No one gets a 100% on this, amateur or pro alike. But a guy like Nawrocki who spends countless hours studying tape and talking to coaches is way more qualified to render an opinion than some jamoke on TSW who reads ESPN's website for an hour and thinks he's Bill Polian.

 

FWIW, here's what he says about Troup:

 

"The most pivotal piece of a 3-4 defense is the nose tackle, and with the Bills making the conversion to an odd front, they needed a bigger, more stout centerpiece than Kyle Williams. Troup has the sheer mass, power and press strength to hold the point and occupy space and should immediately be able to factor into the Bills' defense on first and second downs."

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