Thoner7 Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 .. by simply calling Jon Gruden and asking who to take. I just re-watched the Gruden QB special where he sits down with Bradford, Clausen, McCoy, and Tebow - watching film and talkin football with all of them. He even took Tebow out and worked him out. A SB winning HC who is a toal QB guru/junkie is given one on one access to ALL of the top guys, watches all their tape, finds out what they are all about, and even gets a private workout. He got the interview of a lifetime with every one of them. What else do you need? If the Bills are not taking advantage of that they are a bunch of idiots. Buddy, call up Gruden and just ask who he would take! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 .. by simply calling Jon Gruden and asking who to take. I just re-watched the Gruden QB special where he sits down with Bradford, Clausen, McCoy, and Tebow - watching film and talkin football with all of them. He even took Tebow out and worked him out. A SB winning HC who is a toal QB guru/junkie is given one on one access to ALL of the top guys, watches all their tape, finds out what they are all about, and even gets a private workout. He got the interview of a lifetime with every one of them. What else do you need? If the Bills are not taking advantage of that they are a bunch of idiots. Buddy, call up Gruden and just ask who he would take! going out on a limb -- i imagine player visits are even bigger interviews -- complete with a ton of film time, and huge workouts. i bet chan got 1-1 access with all the qbs he wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortured Soul Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 1. He was not such a good QB guru in Tampa. 2. What if he says the only good QB in the draft is Bradford? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyT Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 ...or we could wait and take a real QB next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geno Smith's Arm Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 What if all the guys on TV disagreed? What if Bill Cowher said "Tony Pike!", Gruden said "Clausen", Jimmy Johnson said "Bradford", Mariucci said "LeFevour" etc. Would you know what to think? Lots of scouts out there, and most know more about the QB's than Gruden, or ANY of the TV commentators. All these guys have to answer the questions they are asked, so they have to have an opinion (or maybe they could say "you know what? I don't watch much college football, and I just kinda wait to see who the popular picks are, then watch some highlights on Youtube"). The Gruden show was more about entertainment than anything else. I know alot of people get off on his "tough guy" image, but I don't think he is an elite coach (yes, I know his stats, life story, favorite color etc). He will stay in the TV booth, he has nowhere to go but down if he ever came back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizell Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 wait, wasn't it jon gruden who was 'in love' with jeff george? i'm pretty sure he said that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarolinaBill Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 ...or we could wait and take a real QB next year. there is no guarentee that any of those guys will be good in the pros, or that we will be in a position to pick one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thoner7 Posted April 22, 2010 Author Share Posted April 22, 2010 going out on a limb -- i imagine player visits are even bigger interviews -- complete with a ton of film time, and huge workouts. i bet chan got 1-1 access with all the qbs he wanted. I will take a SB winning coachs opinion over Tom Modrak and his army of scouts who have had great success here in the past, a first time GM and assistant GM who has had unknown success because no one knows what picks they have made. I will take Grudens opinion the same way I would take Chris Carters opinion on Charles Rogers. For the record Carter worked out with Rogers pre-draft and knewn he wouldnt make it in the NFL, yet no one listened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 My memory must be fading in my old age. Which great QBs did Gruden draft/develop? I'd just as soon take a TSW poll over the advice of the talking idiots on TV. They are not being paid to give sound football advice. They are being paid to make 'good television'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dib Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 Ourselfs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 there is no guarentee that any of those guys will be good in the pros, or that we will be in a position to pick one A top 3 pick is a virtual lock if we play this season with the QBs currently on the roster. & please people...STOP calling Jon Gruden a QB guru. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFFALOTONE Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 .. by simply calling Jon Gruden and asking who to take. I just re-watched the Gruden QB special where he sits down with Bradford, Clausen, McCoy, and Tebow - watching film and talkin football with all of them. He even took Tebow out and worked him out. A SB winning HC who is a toal QB guru/junkie is given one on one access to ALL of the top guys, watches all their tape, finds out what they are all about, and even gets a private workout. He got the interview of a lifetime with every one of them. What else do you need? If the Bills are not taking advantage of that they are a bunch of idiots. Buddy, call up Gruden and just ask who he would take! Rich Gannon and Brad Johnson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 AAARRRGGG! Gruden is AWFUL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tennesseeboy Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 1. He was not such a good QB guru in Tampa.2. What if he says the only good QB in the draft is Bradford? If he said that he'd be right. I'm not sure Bradford is all that either. A legitimate first rounder though and the only one in this draft. Clausen/McCoy/Tebow are all about the same. Get any one of the three in the second round assuming you think you have to get a qb this year. I don't see any of the three being a big improvement over Edwards and think we'd be better off getting high quality OT's and defensive linemen in this draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grelit Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 there is no guarentee that any of those guys will be good in the pros, or that we will be in a position to pick one Same goes for any position in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grelit Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 If he said that he'd be right. I'm not sure Bradford is all that either. A legitimate first rounder though and the only one in this draft. Clausen/McCoy/Tebow are all about the same. Get any one of the three in the second round assuming you think you have to get a qb this year. I don't see any of the three being a big improvement over Edwards and think we'd be better off getting high quality OT's and defensive linemen in this draft. Edwards sucks....sorry. Cannot agree with you on that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 just saw gruden on a discusion panel....says he has never drafted a qb in first round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninSixburgh Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 With all due respect to Gruden's opinion (not): He won the SB with Dungy's team and he never could find a a long term starting QB for his own team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 .. by simply calling Jon Gruden and asking who to take. I just re-watched the Gruden QB special where he sits down with Bradford, Clausen, McCoy, and Tebow - watching film and talkin football with all of them. He even took Tebow out and worked him out. A SB winning HC who is a toal QB guru/junkie is given one on one access to ALL of the top guys, watches all their tape, finds out what they are all about, and even gets a private workout. He got the interview of a lifetime with every one of them. What else do you need? If the Bills are not taking advantage of that they are a bunch of idiots. Buddy, call up Gruden and just ask who he would take! So exactly which QBs did Gruden develop such that he merits the term "QB guru" ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K Gun Special Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 i know everyone wants to be a draftnik but right now the bills are a worse team than last year, which means they are pretty awful. THe problems arent going to be solved thru the draft alone. Im not so worried who they take at 9--- i just know everyone on here will be whining about who they take no matter what. My concern is are they a better football team come sat night? I dont see how they will..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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