freester Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 I think Guy will eventually get the boot. Gailey has worked with Modrak in the past and I suspect Modrak stays. The coordinators are critically important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthICE Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 I think Guy will eventually get the boot. Gailey has worked with Modrak in the past and I suspect Modrak stays. The coordinators are critically important. As long as Guy gets the boot that helps quite a bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaGimp Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 if you tried to run a real business the way the bills do, it would fail within the first week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el Tigre Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 As long as Guy gets the boot that helps quite a bit Guy is in charge of pro FA signings right? If so,he should go. I actually think Modrak is pretty good. I hope he stays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RkFast Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 We talking coordinators or scouting assistants? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 Guy is in charge of pro FA signings right? If so,he should go. I actually think Modrak is pretty good. I hope he stays. I'm willing to give Modrak a break if he really did get overridden by DJ on Orakpo vs. Maybin. Now, Guy...did the same thing happen to him? Did DJ force his will on him also? If so, I'm willing to cut him some slack also. If DJ left him alone, he REALLY needs to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpcolosi Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 guy will not be renewed when his contract is up as many people have stated. they may bring in someone from outside or elevate a scout from within to fill that void (or see if modrak wants to take on pro personnel). modrak and nix running a draft actually makes me feel comfortable. these are two "football" junkies. guys that eat and sleep this stuff for 30,40 years. for once, i actually trust that our draft might turn out decent, especially because this past one has nix's hands all over it. maybe, just maybe, ralph got "lucky" one last time. ok thats too much optimism for one night. soo long from okinawa... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddog69 Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 Guy is in charge of pro FA signings right? If so,he should go. I actually think Modrak is pretty good. I hope he stays. Guy is in charge of making recommendations and rankings of available players. He is not responsible for signing them. In fact, he has stated that many of the players he recommended were not signed and many of the players we signed were not high on his list. He did an interview with Allen Wilson a few weeks back. Same with Modrak, he recommended players. Russ, Ralph and Dick (not sure who had final say) chose to not listen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 I'm willing to give Modrak a break if he really did get overridden by DJ on Orakpo vs. Maybin. Now, Guy...did the same thing happen to him? Did DJ force his will on him also? If so, I'm willing to cut him some slack also. If DJ left him alone, he REALLY needs to go. He wanted Cushing... Guy's contract is up in May, I have a feeling his contract won't be renewed. It would be a mark against Buffalo when it comes to the Rooney Rule, much like Seattle and Washington with their coaching search...It wouldn't be a good thing to fire someone a month after you interviewed for the GM spot.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el Tigre Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 Guy is in charge of making recommendations and rankings of available players. He is not responsible for signing them. In fact, he has stated that many of the players he recommended were not signed and many of the players we signed were not high on his list. He did an interview with Allen Wilson a few weeks back. Same with Modrak, he recommended players. Russ, Ralph and Dick (not sure who had final say) chose to not listen. Well,if that's true we don't really know how good Guy is either. I had heard about Modrak not having final say,but this is new to me about Guy. I've read enough about Modrak before and since he's been in Buffalo to feel he's a good football man. I guess we'll just have to trust Nix's judgement on Guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo 66 Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 Look for Herm Edwards to be assistant HC and DC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2003Contenders Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 To be honest, I am willing to give both Guy and Modrak a bit of a pass, since I have too much of a feeling that Jauron had way too much say on the guys they drafted and acquired in free agency. We have heard way too many stories of players that Modrak recommended that the coaching staff (or someone else) overruled. Modrak supposedly wanted Cushing last year, Revis the year we took Lynch, and Cutler the year we took Whitner. All of this may be wives' tales, of course -- but where there is smoke there is fire. Somehow, I think the combination of him Nix and Gailey will do a much better job of assessing talent. I don't think it is any coincidence that Nix's involvement last year helped guide one of the best drafts we have had in a decade -- even with Maybin under-performing as a rookie. Guy's responsibility is to recommend free agents and bring them in. Afterwords it is up to the coaches (and bean counters) who they actually sign. Remember all the players that passed through Orchard Park the past few years -- and left WITHOUT contracts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuyInMalta Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 Guy's contract is up in May. He won't be retained. Simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liverpoolkev Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 Thank goodness Modrak will be here ....................if we could only get rid of Brandon(why did he get a Promotion again?) Littman ,Overdorf......................those three are the problem plain and simple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 Look for Herm Edwards to be assistant HC and DC I think this board would implode if that happened...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 I'm willing to give Modrak a break if he really did get overridden by DJ on Orakpo vs. Maybin. Now, Guy...did the same thing happen to him? Did DJ force his will on him also? If so, I'm willing to cut him some slack also. If DJ left him alone, he REALLY needs to go. Some quotations from an article about Guy: According to some sources, Guy was frustrated often when the team didn't go along with some of his player recommendations. But he doesn't believe he has been hindered by the team's decisions to sign or not sign veteran free agents. "We all have our own ideas about what we think," he said. "I don't think I've been hamstrung by my present position because I know what my position has been. I know what my limits were, so I don't feel like that. "I feel like within my position, what I've done, which is evaluate talent and give my reports and make my suggestions, I don't think I've been hamstrung. I tell them what I think and that's it. That's how it goes." Sigh. http://www.buffalonews.com/452/story/911588.html?imw=Y Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 Guy is in charge of pro FA signings right? If so,he should go. I actually think Modrak is pretty good. I hope he stays. As far as I understand it all Guy does is look at professional talent that's out there and brings them in. He isn't the one making the signings etc. That should still fall on Nix and Wilson as far as I read things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el Tigre Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 As far as I understand it all Guy does is look at professional talent that's out there and brings them in. He isn't the one making the signings etc. That should still fall on Nix and Wilson as far as I read things. Yeah,after reading some of the posts in this thread,I'd be cool if Guy was retained. Sounds like these guys may not have been listened to enough. Let's hope that changes under Nix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills Fan in MD Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 I think Guy will eventually get the boot. Gailey has worked with Modrak in the past and I suspect Modrak stays. The coordinators are critically important. Isn't this thread supposed to be about coordinators? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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