Thurman#1 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 There is no more rock bottom... Either he goes tomorrow or he'll be here the rest of the year, period. I just can't wait for the full on TO press conference meltdown that should be coming within moments... Those aren't the only two options. I personally don't expect any firings till we're mathematically eliminated, and probably not till after the season. But, not being Ralph Wilson, I have no real idea. Unlike the rest of you who are not Ralph Wilson and yet are sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Doubtful this owner will fire one coach and still pay him while having to pay another If this is true, then Raslph is a worse business man than George W Bush. I thought for sure Dick was done after Cleveland. If Dick were fired tomorrow it would be a good move for fan morale now. Then the day after the season you announce you're hiring a new coach and then hire a good one, and cha-ching. Ralph will have to bring temps in to answer the phone in the season ticket office. That said, I hope he's already fired and it just hasn't been announced yet. However, I think he'll finish out the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bufcomments Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 If this is true, then Raslph is a worse business man than George W Bush. I thought for sure Dick was done after Cleveland. If Dick were fired tomorrow it would be a good move for fan morale now. Then the day after the season you announce you're hiring a new coach and then hire a good one, and cha-ching. Ralph will have to bring temps in to answer the phone in the season ticket office. That said, I hope he's already fired and it just hasn't been announced yet. However, I think he'll finish out the season. I thought he was gone after the Jets game on the road last year, that was a fireable call when he had Loseman throw to the fullback. Goes to show you Ralph only cares about the bottom line like most businessman. And thats all he is...a businessman not a real owner. Say what you want about Jerry Jones, but he would have fired Limp Dicks ass last year for sure if he was the owner of this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsrcursed Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 If Jauron is fired now and the interim coach wins 2-3 games, then this franchise will again be set back by years. This might be the best post I've ever seen on this site during my short stay. This is also the scariest post I've ever seen on this site during my short stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildBills Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 This might be the best post I've ever seen on this site during my short stay. This is also the scariest post I've ever seen on this site during my short stay. there is no reasoning behind this. there is no way the interim coach will be made the new head coach if he wins a couple games. ralph knows he needs a proven coach and has probably already talked to gruden on the phone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB2004 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Nothing to go one here except instinct, but I think he gets the axe tomorrow. There is enough to question about today's game that has to leave Russ and Ralph feeling hopeless about this team for this year. We haven't heard much publically from Russ or Ralph but let's face it, it's quite obvious to anyone watching this team that they are a mess and at this point Ralph has to be embarrassed. It won't cost him much to elevate April to HC for the rest of the year and it will send a signal to the players that change starts now. I really think it will happen. If it does happen, which I highly doubt, any thoughts on who you think would take over for the rest of this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsrcursed Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 there is no reasoning behind this. there is no way the interim coach will be made the new head coach if he wins a couple games. ralph knows he needs a proven coach and has probably already talked to gruden on the phone. Then this thread has no purpose. If what you say is true, why fire Dick now?? BTW, I agree with you, but not to the extent that DJ gets fired. No point, let him finish the year, then firesale this mofo.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webster Guy Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Brandon needs to go back to marketing. Modrak, Guy & Jauron should be fired immediately. Get rid of the Tampon 2 defense as it got torched today by Chris Johnson & Vince Young. Why in the hell do you put in a QB that is much worse than your starter after he gets intercepted? I don't know if that was Van Pelt or Edwards decision to throw the exact same play 3 times in a row, but that was very pathetic. I think DJ pulled Trent because it was his first game back from the concussion and he had Levitre trying to patch in for LT and a new guard in HIS spot and he was getting crushed back there. The game wasn't winnable at that point, I liked the call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damj Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 That feeling in your gut is probably just gas ... don't worry, it'll pass ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thirty Year Fan Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Nothing to go one here except instinct, but I think he gets the axe tomorrow. There is enough to question about today's game that has to leave Russ and Ralph feeling hopeless about this team for this year. We haven't heard much publically from Russ or Ralph but let's face it, it's quite obvious to anyone watching this team that they are a mess and at this point Ralph has to be embarrassed. It won't cost him much to elevate April to HC for the rest of the year and it will send a signal to the players that change starts now. I really think it will happen.When Jaron is fired I won't be happy, I will just be wondering what took so long!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in San Diego Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Did Jauron get fired yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8-8 Forever? Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Nothing to go one here except instinct, but I think he gets the axe tomorrow. There is enough to question about today's game that has to leave Russ and Ralph feeling hopeless about this team for this year. We haven't heard much publically from Russ or Ralph but let's face it, it's quite obvious to anyone watching this team that they are a mess and at this point Ralph has to be embarrassed. It won't cost him much to elevate April to HC for the rest of the year and it will send a signal to the players that change starts now. I really think it will happen. nope. In fact I believe that until the CBA is signed or agreed to in principle, Ralph may not spend another dime on head coaching costs (maybe an O - coordinator) . which means we may have DJ next year as well. lets see you " keep the faith" in that scenario... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Did Jauron get fired yet? Regular Monday press conference scheduled for 12:30pm, so probably not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 When Jaron is fired I won't be happy, I will just be wondering what took so long!!!! I won't be happy either until Jauron's successor is in place. My fear is Ralph goes back to the market and brings in another clunker vs. a seasoned and successful former/current head coach. A new coach has also got to be part of a new GM/HQ combo to get this franchise moving in the right direction after a decade of futility and frustration. Dick might be one of the worst head coaches of all-time but his current personel crew gets an 'F' grade too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8-8 Forever? Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 If this is true, then Raslph is a worse business man than George W Bush. I thought for sure Dick was done after Cleveland. If Dick were fired tomorrow it would be a good move for fan morale now. Then the day after the season you announce you're hiring a new coach and then hire a good one, and cha-ching. Ralph will have to bring temps in to answer the phone in the season ticket office. That said, I hope he's already fired and it just hasn't been announced yet. However, I think he'll finish out the season. Ralph is running the business of the Bills brilliantly. The majority of his revenue is shared TV money, which he gets even if the stadium is half full. The stadium won't be half full, because Bills fans come for the party as much as anything else. So, do the math, its easy. Lets say 20% of the fans stay away next year because they are upset (I don't see that happening if the team wins 2 or 3 more games, which is likely) . That's 14,000 unsold tix at $50per, so that's $700k over 7 games, or $5million. That's a very small number. Smaller if another game goes to Toronto next year. Not sure if Ralph gets a cut of concessions, probably not. Even with concessions, the number is still pretty much equal to what he'd have to pay Gruden or some other name brand coach for next year. Plus he'd have to guarantee Gruden $15 mil. over 3 years, so now Ralph's on the hook for another $10mil. I think he keeps Jauron next year and waits and sees what happens with the CBA. thats the smart business guy move. He owns the fans. they will keep coming. in 1984-5, the stadium was still at 50,000 - 60,000 fans. Don't ever say Ralph is not a smart business guy. He knows how to run a blue collar/small market team... keep costs/payroll low, keep tix prices the lowest in the league, let the tailgate parties go on all day (most stadium owners do not allow the mayhem surrounding the Ralph on game day) and work to a minimum 8 - 8 record and you make money all day long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Hurt Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Do you remember what Freddy Krueger said to Jason? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Ticket sales, not team record is the metric here. It's all in the buzz factor. The firing will lead to a positive buzz. If the firing occurs now, the buzz will be wasted as the Bills are so awful, that nothing done now will change the season results. But if the buzz happens in February or whereabouts, the buzz may help season ticket sales. Wouldn't it be nice if they turned that problem on its head by ask the season ticket holders to renew now and after acehiveing x% renewals, they clean house now,so we can hit the ground running next season... I know its just not how the world works, but if Bills nation is given the option to vote it would be interesting what the poll told us... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted November 17, 2009 Author Share Posted November 17, 2009 Well, we were off by 1 day. Ralph isn't quite as quick as he once was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nervous Guy Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Well, we were off by 1 day. Ralph isn't quite as quick as he once was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Well, we were off by 1 day. Ralph isn't quite as quick as he once was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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