Then there is the situation with Nic Harris

[John from Riverside]

Everyone was wondering why Nic Harris wasn't getting his shot at the OLB spot.......all these other guys getting rotated in and out........moving him all over place....back to safety....not playing him

 

So what does he do when he gets on the field? High energy plays......yes he made mistakes but what do you expect when you screw with a players head like this......

 

Every year there is some player that should have been playing that isn't then he comes out and kicks @ss........why is it so hard for this coaching staff to see who their playmakers are?

[Erik]

Everyone was wondering why Nic Harris wasn't getting his shot at the OLB spot.......all these other guys getting rotated in and out........moving him all over place....back to safety....not playing him

 

So what does he do when he gets on the field? High energy plays......yes he made mistakes but what do you expect when you screw with a players head like this......

 

Every year there is some player that should have been playing that isn't then he comes out and kicks @ss........why is it so hard for this coaching staff to see who their playmakers are?

 

On a roll tonight huh John? Again, agreed, Ellison is clearly not good. He shouldn't see the field again. Season is over. 3-5 at the break, get Harris in. He'll make some rookie mistakes but get him the experience.

[Red]

Everyone was wondering why Nic Harris wasn't getting his shot at the OLB spot.......all these other guys getting rotated in and out........moving him all over place....back to safety....not playing him

 

So what does he do when he gets on the field? High energy plays......yes he made mistakes but what do you expect when you screw with a players head like this......

 

Every year there is some player that should have been playing that isn't then he comes out and kicks @ss........why is it so hard for this coaching staff to see who their playmakers are?

 

Could not effin' agree with you more on Nic Harris.

 

After the preseason, he looked amazing! I am surprised that Ellison still is on the roster, with a player like Harris.

[tonyd19]

I don't understand this about Bills fans (I have been a Bills fan all my life, but outside WNY) We have garbage players, and garbage backing them up and often we are calling for the garbage backing them up to get a shot, instead of just getting rid of all the garbage.

 

Nic Harris, is too small to be a LB and too slow to be a DB. He should not have been drafted in the first place. Buffalo drafts three guys every year with "high upsides" who come cheap and can't do anything except offer high energy on special teams. We need to cut all these guys bring in some talent...Every where. Then move they guys like Ellison to back up roles. we will never be competitive until this happens.

[No QB - No Bueno]

I don't understand this about Bills fans (I have been a Bills fan all my life, but outside WNY) We have garbage players, and garbage backing them up and often we are calling for the garbage backing them up to get a shot, instead of just getting rid of all the garbage.

 

Nic Harris, is too small to be a LB and too slow to be a DB. He should not have been drafted in the first place. Buffalo drafts three guys every year with "high upsides" who come cheap and can't do anything except offer high energy on special teams. We need to cut all these guys bring in some talent...Every where. Then move they guys like Ellison to back up roles. we will never be competitive until this happens.

 

You nailed it. I'm not against picking up a few athletic projects if the raw talent is there - Byrd (for example who may be too slow for his college position), or a Jason Peters. Guys that are either freakish raw athletes, and no I don't mean bench press specialists like Lief Larson, or have unusually good football instincts.

 

The Bills, who have lepers in the FO and on the coaching staff, sacrilegiously think they can draft out of position then make water into wine.

[vincec]

Well, now that Ellison is hurt we should be seeing more of Nic Harris. I doubt that he will be an improvement though. He isn't any bigger or faster than Ellison and doesn't have his experience.

[John from Riverside]

I don't understand this about Bills fans (I have been a Bills fan all my life, but outside WNY) We have garbage players, and garbage backing them up and often we are calling for the garbage backing them up to get a shot, instead of just getting rid of all the garbage.

 

Nic Harris, is too small to be a LB and too slow to be a DB. He should not have been drafted in the first place. Buffalo drafts three guys every year with "high upsides" who come cheap and can't do anything except offer high energy on special teams. We need to cut all these guys bring in some talent...Every where. Then move they guys like Ellison to back up roles. we will never be competitive until this happens.

 

Nic Harris is NOT to small to play the LB role that is asked of him in this defense (I dont like the defense but that is a entire other matter) and even if he was on the small side I love his mentality about wanting to come up and stick players.......he covers ground very fast as evidenced on the pass where he drilled the RB and he plays with passion.

 

Not every pick can be a first rounder.......if you bring in players like Nic Harris with later picks and they end up being good players then that his how you biuld a good football team........especially when you have mgt who will not go out and bring in competetive guys in free agency at spots of weakness (I know I know.....Stroud....TO.....Hangman...BUT LB was a definate need area going into the season)

[Doc]

I don't understand this about Bills fans (I have been a Bills fan all my life, but outside WNY) We have garbage players, and garbage backing them up and often we are calling for the garbage backing them up to get a shot, instead of just getting rid of all the garbage.

 

Nic Harris, is too small to be a LB and too slow to be a DB. He should not have been drafted in the first place. Buffalo drafts three guys every year with "high upsides" who come cheap and can't do anything except offer high energy on special teams. We need to cut all these guys bring in some talent...Every where. Then move they guys like Ellison to back up roles. we will never be competitive until this happens.

Yes, the simple solution is to "bring in some talent...Every where."

[John from Riverside]

Nic Harris is NOT to small to play the LB role that is asked of him in this defense (I dont like the defense but that is a entire other matter) and even if he was on the small side I love his mentality about wanting to come up and stick players.......he covers ground very fast as evidenced on the pass where he drilled the RB and he plays with passion.

 

Not every pick can be a first rounder.......if you bring in players like Nic Harris with later picks and they end up being good players then that his how you biuld a good football team........especially when you have mgt who will not go out and bring in competetive guys in free agency at spots of weakness (I know I know.....Stroud....TO.....Hangman...BUT LB was a definate need area going into the season)

 

 

Just to add to that Harris is listed at 6'3" 234 pounds (Which makes him bigger then Ellison. He is also very long and lean and could add weight to that now that he isn't playing his college position.

[OrangeJuiceSimpson]

When will this staff learn what any average fan can see. Greer didn't get his chance until injury and neither did Harris.

 

We probably wouldn't have seen Byrd this season without the Whitner and Scott injuries.

[Max997]

Buffalo drafts three guys every year with "high upsides" who come cheap and can't do anything except offer high energy on special teams.

 

how exactly do the players Buffalo drafted come cheaper then any other player they would have drafted at the same spot?

 

sometimes you have to see what you have and we already know what we have in Ellison so there is no reason why Harris shouldnt be playing...his NFL position is clearly LB so with the way they are playing there is no reason he doesnt start the rest of the year

 

it was good to see a LB hit a RB in the flat immediately after making a catch, when was the last time we seen that

[tonyd19]

Just to add to that Harris is listed at 6'3" 234 pounds (Which makes him bigger then Ellison. He is also very long and lean and could add weight to that now that he isn't playing his college position.

 

 

All I am saying is he is another Bill without a true position. Classic line"he's bigger than Ellison" Ellison is drastically undersized by NFL standards. I know we can't get 1st round talent with every pick, but my issue is they draft guys intentionally to be career special teamers. Other teams drat guys to compete for starting positions, if they can't hack it, they play special teams for a year, and are gone if they do not improve.

 

We get guys like Wilson, Wendling, Corto, Harris, Stupar...All high motor guys who give it there all. I am sure they are wonderful around the fans and are great to have a beer with...But are they, or will they ever be playmakers? Are they talented enough guys to be kept around year after year and be anything but fill ins? Probably not, and if they are not, it is time to free up those spots for guys who could possibly develop into difference makers and let them learn on special teams.

 

(Yes, I know Harris is a rookie, I am talking about an organizational mindset more than anything.)

[tonyd19]

Just to add to that Harris is listed at 6'3" 234 pounds (Which makes him bigger then Ellison. He is also very long and lean and could add weight to that now that he isn't playing his college position.

 

 

All I am saying is he is another Bill without a true position. Classic line"he's bigger than Ellison" Ellison is drastically undersized by NFL standards. I know we can't get 1st round talent with every pick, but my issue is they draft guys intentionally to be career special teamers. Other teams drat guys to compete for starting positions, if they can't hack it, they play special teams for a year, and are gone if they do not improve.

 

We get guys like Wilson, Wendling, Corto, Harris, Stupar...All high motor guys who give it there all. I am sure they are wonderful around the fans and are great to have a beer with...But are they, or will they ever be playmakers? Are they talented enough guys to be kept around year after year and be anything but fill ins? Probably not, and if they are not, it is time to free up those spots for guys who could possibly develop into difference makers and let them learn on special teams.

 

(Yes, I know Harris is a rookie, I am talking about an organizational mindset more than anything.)

[tonyd19]

Just to add to that Harris is listed at 6'3" 234 pounds (Which makes him bigger then Ellison. He is also very long and lean and could add weight to that now that he isn't playing his college position.

 

 

All I am saying is he is another Bill without a true position. Classic line"he's bigger than Ellison" Ellison is drastically undersized by NFL standards. I know we can't get 1st round talent with every pick, but my issue is they draft guys intentionally to be career special teamers. Other teams drat guys to compete for starting positions, if they can't hack it, they play special teams for a year, and are gone if they do not improve.

 

We get guys like Wilson, Wendling, Corto, Harris, Stupar...All high motor guys who give it there all. I am sure they are wonderful around the fans and are great to have a beer with...But are they, or will they ever be playmakers? Are they talented enough guys to be kept around year after year and be anything but fill ins? Probably not, and if they are not, it is time to free up those spots for guys who could possibly develop into difference makers and let them learn on special teams.

 

(Yes, I know Harris is a rookie, I am talking about an organizational mindset more than anything.)

[Max997]

Just to add to that Harris is listed at 6'3" 234 pounds (Which makes him bigger then Ellison. He is also very long and lean and could add weight to that now that he isn't playing his college position.

 

funny that his listed size is close to Maybins yet Harris is considered a small LB and Maybin is supposedly a DE...what a horrible pick Maybin was

[John from Riverside]

All I am saying is he is another Bill without a true position. Classic line"he's bigger than Ellison" Ellison is drastically undersized by NFL standards. I know we can't get 1st round talent with every pick, but my issue is they draft guys intentionally to be career special teamers. Other teams drat guys to compete for starting positions, if they can't hack it, they play special teams for a year, and are gone if they do not improve.

 

We get guys like Wilson, Wendling, Corto, Harris, Stupar...All high motor guys who give it there all. I am sure they are wonderful around the fans and are great to have a beer with...But are they, or will they ever be playmakers? Are they talented enough guys to be kept around year after year and be anything but fill ins? Probably not, and if they are not, it is time to free up those spots for guys who could possibly develop into difference makers and let them learn on special teams.

 

(Yes, I know Harris is a rookie, I am talking about an organizational mindset more than anything.)

 

While I def agree with you that we draft guys who were "great ST'rs in college so they should be able to do it in college" and not draft the prototypical size/height/weight for a position. Some of the guys on that list are playing very well in their roles however.....Wendling is an absolute ST's stud. Wilson is making me hope the starters dont return. Harris to me is an absolute physical stud who just doesnt have the reps or experience yet.

 

Do I wish the guys in front of them were playing well enough to keep me in the mindset of "man wouldn't XXX player also be good if he was playing" but that is not the case.......Ellison SUCKS I dont care how many tackles he has. Harris plays with attitude.

[Pirate Angel]

I myself was wondering why Palmer was put in when Mitchell went down when Harris was all over the place in preseason, then It came to me Dick Jauron is our coach.

[tonyd19]

I equate the Bills to a baseball team that keeps drafting pitchers who project out to be middle relievers instead of starters, because middle relief is a very important part of baseball.

 

Yes, we all know special teams is important, but the 5 times a game a guy Wendling or Wilson are involved, is not as important as say they 50 or so plays your OT is in on, or the 35 to 40 plays anyone of your linebackers may be involved with.

 

Also, regarding Nic Harris, can anyone show me one solid NFL linebacker (in the history of the game) who was ever considered being moved to a safety position?

 

He is too small to ever be an impact player. Regarding Ellison being 234 lbs, I could list Cindy Crawford at 6'2 and 220, but that doesn't make it true.

[Thoner7]

I don't understand this about Bills fans (I have been a Bills fan all my life, but outside WNY) We have garbage players, and garbage backing them up and often we are calling for the garbage backing them up to get a shot, instead of just getting rid of all the garbage.

 

Nic Harris, is too small to be a LB and too slow to be a DB. He should not have been drafted in the first place. Buffalo drafts three guys every year with "high upsides" who come cheap and can't do anything except offer high energy on special teams. We need to cut all these guys bring in some talent...Every where. Then move they guys like Ellison to back up roles. we will never be competitive until this happens.

 

 

Wrong and wrong. Nic Harris never lifted weights in college in an effort to stay light enough to play saftey. Give him a chance to hit the gym. He is also bigger than all of our other LBs minus Poz. I am not talking about their listed weights, I am talking about how big they actually are. Second, Harris has similair speed to Byrd (40 time wise), who is still a DB. He is clearly the most athletic LB on the team. Ellison sucks and should be cut. I rejoiced when he was out of the game.

 

Now if you want to B word about Maybin, go for it. The guy is the same size as TO. I wonder how quick TOs first step is....

[John from Riverside]

I equate the Bills to a baseball team that keeps drafting pitchers who project out to be middle relievers instead of starters, because middle relief is a very important part of baseball.

 

Yes, we all know special teams is important, but the 5 times a game a guy Wendling or Wilson are involved, is not as important as say they 50 or so plays your OT is in on, or the 35 to 40 plays anyone of your linebackers may be involved with.

 

Also, regarding Nic Harris, can anyone show me one solid NFL linebacker (in the history of the game) who was ever considered being moved to a safety position?

 

He is too small to ever be an impact player. Regarding Ellison being 234 lbs, I could list Cindy Crawford at 6'2 and 220, but that doesn't make it true.

 

I assume you are talking about Harris and not Ellison.

 

Harris looks every bit of 234 pounds to me......he is carrying a lot of muscle and he has potental to add more because of his biuld.

 

So what do you do when you are drafting in the middle rounds? Do you draft people who look the part but cant play worth a crap? When you get to the middle rounds you are drafting on the POTENTIAL of what they could be and can make plays.

 

Now...If I understand your arguement here you think that there should be solid proven starters in all of those spots....shoot I wish that as well.

[tonyd19]

Wrong and wrong. Nic Harris never lifted weights in college[/i] in an effort to stay light enough to play saftey. Give him a chance to hit the gym. He is also bigger than all of our other LBs minus Poz. I am not talking about their listed weights, I am talking about how big they actually are. Second, Harris has similair speed to Byrd (40 time wise), who is still a DB. He is clearly the most athletic LB on the team. Ellison sucks and should be cut. I rejoiced when he was out of the game.

 

Now if you want to B word about Maybin, go for it. The guy is the same size as TO. I wonder how quick TOs first step is....

 

Great, so we have a lazy college safety playing as an undersized NFL linebacker with a work ethic problem. GO Modrak & Guy! I bet he can cover punts though.

[tonyd19]

I assume you are talking about Harris and not Ellison.

 

Harris looks every bit of 234 pounds to me......he is carrying a lot of muscle and he has potental to add more because of his biuld.

 

So what do you do when you are drafting in the middle rounds? Do you draft people who look the part but cant play worth a crap? When you get to the middle rounds you are drafting on the POTENTIAL of what they could be and can make plays.

 

Now...If I understand your arguement here you think that there should be solid proven starters in all of those spots....shoot I wish that as well.

 

 

Yes I was talking about Ellison. And, no, I wish Buffalo would draft guys in the later rounds who have the potential to be impact players, and work them down to special teams if they cannot hack it, instead of drafting guy who project to be good special teamers, but have no real potential to be impact players....if that makes sense. Like I said it is an organizational problem of how they evaluate.

[Thoner7]

Great, so we have a lazy college safety playing as an undersized NFL linebacker with a work ethic problem. GO Modrak & Guy! I bet he can cover punts though.

 

I didnt say he never worked out. Jamal Lewis claims he has never lifted a weight in his life, yet he ran for 2000 yards. When you are naturally 230 - like Harris - and trying to play safety you dont need weights. Now he is an NFL LB and could get to 260 in a heartbeat if he wanted to. Why would he aim to do that when our coaches want him at 235?

[tonyd19]

Just like every other issue with Buffalo...It is a lack of balls from the front office, to the coaching staff, to the quarterback, to the entire attitude of the team.

 

If you draft and evaluate guys to be 2nd string fill-ins who never can really compete for a starting spot because they are not talented enough. Your starters are never really pushed, and if one of them are injured the back up is not talented enough to step in long term.

 

The front office needs to grow a pair when drafting and get the most talented player available. Forget high motor,forget smart player, what matters is playmaking ability. They need to make a statement that if you are not good enough to start, you are not good enough to be a Buffalo Bill. You should not be content to be a special teams ace year in and year out...If you are, you have already lost.

[Sisyphean Bills]

I didnt say he never worked out. Jamal Lewis claims he has never lifted a weight in his life, yet he ran for 2000 yards. When you are naturally 230 - like Harris - and trying to play safety you dont need weights. Now he is an NFL LB and could get to 260 in a heartbeat if he wanted to. Why would he aim to do that when our coaches want him at 235?

260? If he got that big, he'd be our nose tackle!

[tonyd19]

I didnt say he never worked out. Jamal Lewis claims he has never lifted a weight in his life, yet he ran for 2000 yards. When you are naturally 230 - like Harris - and trying to play safety you dont need weights. Now he is an NFL LB and could get to 260 in a heartbeat if he wanted to. Why would he aim to do that when our coaches want him at 235?

 

 

Just being a little sarcastic there. I am sure Harris works very hard. But we need guys who are hungary and want to win, will doanything to win and grab the job by the nuts when they get in the game. See Jarius Byrd. Not guys who play timid or are not good enough to fill in when the starter goes down. See Corto and Wendling. Both are good on special teams, neither should be on this team long term.

[John from Riverside]

Yes I was talking about Ellison. And, no, I wish Buffalo would draft guys in the later rounds who have the potential to be impact players, and work them down to special teams if they cannot hack it, instead of drafting guy who project to be good special teamers, but have no real potential to be impact players....if that makes sense. Like I said it is an organizational problem of how they evaluate.

 

Ellison is listed at 6' 229 pounds.........

 

Harris has 3 inches of height and more weight on him AND is moving from a safety position where he was trying to keep his weight down to play safety........

 

Just wait till Harris is in a NFL weightroom for an offseason......

[tonyd19]

I didnt say he never worked out. Jamal Lewis claims he has never lifted a weight in his life, yet he ran for 2000 yards. When you are naturally 230 - like Harris - and trying to play safety you dont need weights. Now he is an NFL LB and could get to 260 in a heartbeat if he wanted to. Why would he aim to do that when our coaches want him at 235?

 

 

BTW are you seriously comparing Jamal Lewis to Nic Harris?

[tonyd19]

Ellison is listed at 6' 229 pounds.........

 

Harris has 3 inches of height and more weight on him AND is moving from a safety position where he was trying to keep his weight down to play safety........

 

Just wait till Harris is in a NFL weightroom for an offseason......

 

For Buffalos sake I hope you are right and I am wrong. I just cannot think of one linebacker....ever ....that was a safety in college and became a good linebacker in the NFL (BTW this is anyone's cue to prove me wrong). Buffalo has a better chance of converting Maybin to an impact player at LB than Harris in my opinion...but I hope I am wrong.

[tonyd19]

I didnt say he never worked out. Jamal Lewis claims he has never lifted a weight in his life, yet he ran for 2000 yards. When you are naturally 230 - like Harris - and trying to play safety you dont need weights. Now he is an NFL LB and could get to 260 in a heartbeat if he wanted to. Why would he aim to do that when our coaches want him at 235?

 

 

The coaches want him at 235 because that is his natural weight and he would be too slow to play S of LB at 260. Guys who play NFL linebacker well are 250 to 260 and are stronger and as fast as Harris is at 235, because their body types dictate that they can effectively carry that extra muscle. That is the difference.

[Thoner7]

Just being a little sarcastic there. I am sure Harris works very hard. But we need guys who are hungary and want to win, will doanything to win and grab the job by the nuts when they get in the game. See Jarius Byrd. Not guys who play timid or are not good enough to fill in when the starter goes down. See Corto and Wendling. Both are good on special teams, neither should be on this team long term.

 

Ok, and I completely agree with you about our drafting of special teams players. I thought today Harris played more timid than I have ever seen him play, whether his 4 years in college or the pre season. Its amazing what a couple weeks under Jauron can do.

[Thoner7]

The coaches want him at 235 because that is his natural weight and he would be too slow to play S of LB at 260. Guys who play NFL linebacker well are 250 to 260 and are stronger and as fast as Harris is at 235, because their body types dictate that they can effectively carry that extra muscle. That is the difference.

 

Way to generalize when you have no idea what kind of weight he could carry. And to clarify, our coaches want small linebackers so we cant stop the run, duh.

[Red]

how exactly do the players Buffalo drafted come cheaper then any other player they would have drafted at the same spot?

 

sometimes you have to see what you have and we already know what we have in Ellison so there is no reason why Harris shouldnt be playing...his NFL position is clearly LB so with the way they are playing there is no reason he doesnt start the rest of the year

 

it was good to see a LB hit a RB in the flat immediately after making a catch, when was the last time we seen that

 

Its funny, but when I saw that hit I thought of Antoine Winfield...

[Ramius]

Harris and other young players (Byrd, Greer, Jackson) wont see the field in dick jauron's scheme because there's the chance they might make a mistake. Dick jauron would rather have his players make no plays but no mistakes, instead of a possible mistake and a possible big play. Hence the reason that crap (a-train, webster, scott/wilson) see the field instead of young guys with potential.

[Red]

Ellison is listed at 6' 229 pounds.........

 

Harris has 3 inches of height and more weight on him AND is moving from a safety position where he was trying to keep his weight down to play safety........

 

Just wait till Harris is in a NFL weightroom for an offseason......

 

Agreed.

 

Taking digs at Harris, are similar to taking shots at anyone drafted this season (Maybin included).

 

Its simply too early to tell.

 

The same can be said for later round picks of the past 2 seasons. Later round picks typically take longer to develop and make less of an immediate impact. Time is needed to gain an accurate assessment.

 

Harris shows the potential, and seems to be in more control than Ellison. He also is a rookie, with a lot of room for growth.

[Thoner7]

Harris and other young players (Byrd, Greer, Jackson) wont see the field in dick jauron's scheme because there's the chance they might make a mistake. Dick jauron would rather have his players make no plays but no mistakes, instead of a possible mistake and a possible big play. Hence the reason that crap (a-train, webster, scott/wilson) see the field instead of young guys with potential.

 

Agree 100% that Dick never players rookies, forwhatever reason, but Ellison has made more mistakes in one game than I have seen otherr plays make in a season. It is unconcievable to me how a multi year starter could possibly be that bad.

[tonyd19]

Way to generalize when you have no idea what kind of weight he could carry. And to clarify, our coaches want small linebackers so we cant stop the run, duh.

 

 

LOL yea we can swarm our defense like a bunch of angry bees attacking a freight train...BUZZZZZZZ!!!

 

I think if Harris was the next Ray Lewis he would have been moved to linebacker in college because his coaches would have made the switch then. Also, come on guys, he's a 5th round pick...How good do you really think he is going to be (He wasn't even that good of a safety in college, let alone the NFL). There are exceptions, but really. I don't want to be a buzz kill (get it...buzzz) but Harris is obviously another special teams guy who will never be an impact player.

[Thoner7]

LOL yea we can swarm our defense like a bunch of angry bees attacking a freight train...BUZZZZZZZ!!!

 

I think if Harris was the next Ray Lewis he would have been moved to linebacker in college because his coaches would have made the switch then. Also, come on guys, he's a 5th round pick...How good do you really think he is going to be (He wasn't even that good of a safety in college, let alone the NFL). There are exceptions, but really. I don't want to be a buzz kill (get it...buzzz) but Harris is obviously another special teams guy who will never be an impact player.

 

FYI - Harris played the "Roy" position in college (named after former Dallas Cowboy Roy Williams) which is a hybrid safety/LB position designed by Bob Stoops to defend the spread. Depending on the formation, he could line up as, and have the responsibilities of, the Mike, Will, free, or strong safety. No college team plays an NFL D on every down, they scheme to defend a variety of offenses. So, to address your comment, they did move him to linebacker while he was in college, but instead of being taken out for say a nickleback, he was the nickleback. These moves are talked about a little in this article

 

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2009/profiles/nic-harris?id=71323

 

He was also a two time consensus All-American. Just sayin.

 

Why are you so quick to rip a guy who has done nothing but perform and perform well? Hes not the next Ray Lewis, but he is already better than Ellison. MUCH better.

[scurdog1]

tonyd19, I guess you never heard of Brian Uhlacher. He was a college safety and was/is a good MB when he's healthy but you're right no one has done it.

[8-8 Forever?]

All I am saying is he is another Bill without a true position. Classic line"he's bigger than Ellison" Ellison is drastically undersized by NFL standards. I know we can't get 1st round talent with every pick, but my issue is they draft guys intentionally to be career special teamers. Other teams drat guys to compete for starting positions, if they can't hack it, they play special teams for a year, and are gone if they do not improve.

 

We get guys like Wilson, Wendling, Corto, Harris, Stupar...All high motor guys who give it there all. I am sure they are wonderful around the fans and are great to have a beer with...But are they, or will they ever be playmakers? Are they talented enough guys to be kept around year after year and be anything but fill ins? Probably not, and if they are not, it is time to free up those spots for guys who could possibly develop into difference makers and let them learn on special teams.

 

(Yes, I know Harris is a rookie, I am talking about an organizational mindset more than anything.)

 

Well season over. Finally. for Good. the only why you get in the wild card is to win 10 or 11 games, that issnt happening. Look at Vikings. jared allen, the williamss, farve, mckinnie, hutchinson, winfield.. that is a team committed to keeping their players getting more of the good ones and competing for the title. going after Favre to replace the one weak spot was extremely expensive but it is working and they are going to the super bowl without question. the bills are a minor league franchise playing in a major league. sad. rebuilding again. o line is a project. by the time that's fixed the d line will be shot. by the time thats fixed the running game will be shot . this is the bills.. never really put it together.. i will watch the next two games against the botton 15 teams Tenn. and Jax but not much beyond that. just not competitive enough against the top 15 teams .. never will be... not a great organization. trying hard, but just not good enough.