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It's a safe guess to say folks want a DT in either round 1 or 2, and the names tossed around most frequently are Dan Williams and Terrance Cody. So let's make this game a little more interesting. Buh bye C.J. Spiller Clemson RBC KR--------------------voted off by Beerball *Derrick Morgan Georgia Tech DE43 -------Voted off by turftoe *Joe Haden Florida CB KR---------------Voted Off By Astrobot *Bryan Bulaga Iowa LT LG *Dez Bryant Oklahoma State WRF KR--Voted off by BuffaloBlood *Jimmy Clausen Notre Dame QB-------------------Voted Off by Celtic_Soulja *Rolando McClain Alabama ILB OLB43 Brandon Graham Michigan DE43 OLB34--------------------voted off by Sven233 Trent Williams Oklahoma LT RT-----------------voted off by tonyjustbcuz *Jason Pierre-Paul South Florida DE43---------------Voted Off By BGIOP Taylor Mays USC FS SS--------------------voted off by Art in RTP Mike Iupati Idaho OG OT *Earl Thomas Texas FS SS CB-----------------Voted off by HuuugeBills Dan Williams Tennessee DT34 DT43--------------------Voted Off by /dev/null #2 *Everson Griffen USC DE43 OLB34 *Bruce Campbell Maryland OT *Carlos Dunlap Florida DE43 DE34------voted off by Lockport Bills Sean Weatherspoon Missouri OLB43 Jared Odrick Penn State DT43 DE34-------------voted off by BGIOP *Golden Tate Notre Dame WRS WRF KR--------------------Voted Off by /dev/null *Ryan Mathews Fresno State RBF-----------------voted off by wizard Kyle Wilson Boise State CB---------------Voted Off By KOKBILLS *Anthony Davis Rutgers OT----------------------voted off by pushthepile Sergio Kindle Texas OLB34 OLB43 DE43 Devin McCourty Rutgers CB----------------voted off by uticaclub Jermaine Gresham Oklahoma TE---------------Voted Off By SawchukBills *Maurkice Pouncey Florida OC OG -------------------------------------ROUND 2----------------------------------------- *Brian Price UCLA DT43 Charles Brown USC OT *Jahvid Best California RBC KR--------------------Voted Off by /dev/null Jerry Hughes TCU OLB34 DE43 OLB43 Brandon Spikes Florida ILB OLB34 OLB43---------Voted off by turftoe Daryl Washington TCU ILB OLB43 Corey Wootton Northwestern DE43 DE34 *Kareem Jackson Alabama CB--------------------voted off by Art in RTP *Demaryius Thomas Georgia Tech WRP Ricky Sapp Clemson DE43 OLB34 *Dominique Franks Oklahoma CB KR----------------Voted off by HuuugeBills Colt McCoy Texas QB-------------------Voted Off By Beerball *Jonathan Dwyer Georgia Tech RBF----------------------------voted off by uticaclub Brandon LaFell LSU WRF-----------------voted off by pushthepile Patrick Robinson Florida State CB---------------Voted Off By KOKBILLS Nate Allen South Florida FS--------------------Voted Off By Astrobot Terrence Cody Alabama DT34 DT43--------------------Voted Off by /dev/null #2 *Damian Williams USC WRF---------------------Voted off by Celtic_Soulja Rodger Saffold Indiana OT OG Dexter McCluster Mississippi WRS KR-----------------voted off by wizard Tyson Alualu California DT43 Tim Tebow Florida QB-- Voted off by BuffaloBlood *Rob Gronkowski Arizona TE---------------Voted Off By SawchukBills Vladimir Ducasse Massachusetts OG OT *Chad Jones LSU SS OLB43---------------Voted Off By BGIOP *Arrelious Benn Illinois WRF KR Koa Misi Utah DE43 OLB34 Brandon Ghee Wake Forest CB--------------------voted off by Sven233 John Jerry Mississippi OG OT *Morgan Burnett Georgia Tech SS--------------------voted off by BGIOP *Aaron Hernandez Florida TE FB-----------------voted off by tonyjustbcuz Toby Gerhart Stanford RBF--------voted off by Lockport Bills
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C.J. Spiller Clemson RBC KR--------------------voted off by Beerball *Derrick Morgan Georgia Tech DE43 -------Voted off by turftoe *Joe Haden Florida CB KR---------------Voted Off By Astrobot *Bryan Bulaga Iowa LT LG *Dez Bryant Oklahoma State WRF KR--Voted off by BuffaloBlood *Jimmy Clausen Notre Dame QB-------------------Voted Off by Celtic_Soulja *Rolando McClain Alabama ILB OLB43 Brandon Graham Michigan DE43 OLB34--------------------voted off by Sven233 Trent Williams Oklahoma LT RT-----------------voted off by tonyjustbcuz *Jason Pierre-Paul South Florida DE43---------------Voted Off By BGIOP Taylor Mays USC FS SS--------------------voted off by Art in RTP Mike Iupati Idaho OG OT *Earl Thomas Texas FS SS CB-----------------Voted off by HuuugeBills Dan Williams Tennessee DT34 DT43 *Everson Griffen USC DE43 OLB34 *Bruce Campbell Maryland OT *Carlos Dunlap Florida DE43 DE34------voted off by Lockport Bills Sean Weatherspoon Missouri OLB43 Jared Odrick Penn State DT43 DE34-------------voted off by BGIOP *Golden Tate Notre Dame WRS WRF KR--------------------Voted Off by /dev/null *Ryan Mathews Fresno State RBF-----------------voted off by wizard Kyle Wilson Boise State CB---------------Voted Off By KOKBILLS *Anthony Davis Rutgers OT----------------------voted off by pushthepile Sergio Kindle Texas OLB34 OLB43 DE43 Devin McCourty Rutgers CB----------------voted off by uticaclub Jermaine Gresham Oklahoma TE---------------Voted Off By SawchukBills *Maurkice Pouncey Florida OC OG -------------------------------------ROUND 2----------------------------------------- *Brian Price UCLA DT43 Charles Brown USC OT *Jahvid Best California RBC KR--------------------Voted Off by /dev/null Jerry Hughes TCU OLB34 DE43 OLB43 Brandon Spikes Florida ILB OLB34 OLB43---------Voted off by turftoe Daryl Washington TCU ILB OLB43 Corey Wootton Northwestern DE43 DE34 *Kareem Jackson Alabama CB--------------------voted off by Art in RTP *Demaryius Thomas Georgia Tech WRP Ricky Sapp Clemson DE43 OLB34 *Dominique Franks Oklahoma CB KR----------------Voted off by HuuugeBills Colt McCoy Texas QB-------------------Voted Off By Beerball *Jonathan Dwyer Georgia Tech RBF----------------------------voted off by uticaclub Brandon LaFell LSU WRF-----------------voted off by pushthepile Patrick Robinson Florida State CB---------------Voted Off By KOKBILLS Nate Allen South Florida FS--------------------Voted Off By Astrobot Terrence Cody Alabama DT34 DT43 *Damian Williams USC WRF---------------------Voted off by Celtic_Soulja Rodger Saffold Indiana OT OG Dexter McCluster Mississippi WRS KR-----------------voted off by wizard Tyson Alualu California DT43 Tim Tebow Florida QB-- Voted off by BuffaloBlood *Rob Gronkowski Arizona TE---------------Voted Off By SawchukBills Vladimir Ducasse Massachusetts OG OT *Chad Jones LSU SS OLB43---------------Voted Off By BGIOP *Arrelious Benn Illinois WRF KR Koa Misi Utah DE43 OLB34 Brandon Ghee Wake Forest CB--------------------voted off by Sven233 John Jerry Mississippi OG OT *Morgan Burnett Georgia Tech SS--------------------voted off by BGIOP *Aaron Hernandez Florida TE FB-----------------voted off by tonyjustbcuz Toby Gerhart Stanford RBF--------voted off by Lockport Bills
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Now the task gets harder. We'll let anybody who's already voted vote again now. ----------------------------------ROUND 1----------------------------------------- C.J. Spiller Clemson RBC KR--------------------voted off by Beerball *Derrick Morgan Georgia Tech DE43 -------Voted off by turftoe *Joe Haden Florida CB KR---------------Voted Off By Astrobot *Bryan Bulaga Iowa LT LG *Dez Bryant Oklahoma State WRF KR--Voted off by BuffaloBlood *Jimmy Clausen Notre Dame QB-------------------Voted Off by Celtic_Soulja *Rolando McClain Alabama ILB OLB43 Brandon Graham Michigan DE43 OLB34--------------------voted off by Sven233 Trent Williams Oklahoma LT RT-----------------voted off by tonyjustbcuz *Jason Pierre-Paul South Florida DE43---------------Voted Off By BGIOP Taylor Mays USC FS SS--------------------voted off by Art in RTP Mike Iupati Idaho OG OT *Earl Thomas Texas FS SS CB-----------------Voted off by HuuugeBills Dan Williams Tennessee DT34 DT43 *Everson Griffen USC DE43 OLB34 *Bruce Campbell Maryland OT *Carlos Dunlap Florida DE43 DE34------voted off by Lockport Bills Sean Weatherspoon Missouri OLB43 Jared Odrick Penn State DT43 DE34 *Golden Tate Notre Dame WRS WRF KR--------------------Voted Off by /dev/null *Ryan Mathews Fresno State RBF-----------------voted off by wizard Kyle Wilson Boise State CB---------------Voted Off By KOKBILLS *Anthony Davis Rutgers OT----------------------voted off by pushthepile Sergio Kindle Texas OLB34 OLB43 DE43 Devin McCourty Rutgers CB----------------voted off by uticaclub Jermaine Gresham Oklahoma TE---------------Voted Off By SawchukBills *Maurkice Pouncey Florida OC OG -------------------------------------ROUND 2----------------------------------------- *Brian Price UCLA DT43 Charles Brown USC OT *Jahvid Best California RBC KR--------------------Voted Off by /dev/null Jerry Hughes TCU OLB34 DE43 OLB43 Brandon Spikes Florida ILB OLB34 OLB43---------Voted off by turftoe Daryl Washington TCU ILB OLB43 Corey Wootton Northwestern DE43 DE34 *Kareem Jackson Alabama CB--------------------voted off by Art in RTP *Demaryius Thomas Georgia Tech WRP Ricky Sapp Clemson DE43 OLB34 *Dominique Franks Oklahoma CB KR----------------Voted off by HuuugeBills Colt McCoy Texas QB-------------------Voted Off By Beerball *Jonathan Dwyer Georgia Tech RBF----------------------------voted off by uticaclub Brandon LaFell LSU WRF-----------------voted off by pushthepile Patrick Robinson Florida State CB---------------Voted Off By KOKBILLS Nate Allen South Florida FS--------------------Voted Off By Astrobot Terrence Cody Alabama DT34 DT43 *Damian Williams USC WRF---------------------Voted off by Celtic_Soulja Rodger Saffold Indiana OT OG Dexter McCluster Mississippi WRS KR-----------------voted off by wizard Tyson Alualu California DT43 Tim Tebow Florida QB-- Voted off by BuffaloBlood *Rob Gronkowski Arizona TE---------------Voted Off By SawchukBills Vladimir Ducasse Massachusetts OG OT *Chad Jones LSU SS OLB43---------------Voted Off By BGIOP *Arrelious Benn Illinois WRF KR Koa Misi Utah DE43 OLB34 Brandon Ghee Wake Forest CB--------------------voted off by Sven233 John Jerry Mississippi OG OT *Morgan Burnett Georgia Tech SS *Aaron Hernandez Florida TE FB-----------------voted off by tonyjustbcuz Toby Gerhart Stanford RBF--------voted off by Lockport Bills
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[quC.J. Spiller Clemson RBC KR--------------------voted off by Beerball *Derrick Morgan Georgia Tech DE43 -------Voted off by turftoe *Joe Haden Florida CB KR---------------Voted Off By Astrobot *Bryan Bulaga Iowa LT LG *Dez Bryant Oklahoma State WRF KR--Voted off by BuffaloBlood *Jimmy Clausen Notre Dame QB-------------------Voted Off by Celtic_Soulja *Rolando McClain Alabama ILB OLB43 Brandon Graham Michigan DE43 OLB34--------------------voted off by Sven233 Trent Williams Oklahoma LT RT *Jason Pierre-Paul South Florida DE43---------------Voted Off By BGIOP Taylor Mays USC FS SS--------------------voted off by Art in RTP Mike Iupati Idaho OG OT *Earl Thomas Texas FS SS CB-----------------Voted off by HuuugeBills Dan Williams Tennessee DT34 DT43 *Everson Griffen USC DE43 OLB34 *Bruce Campbell Maryland OT *Carlos Dunlap Florida DE43 DE34 Sean Weatherspoon Missouri OLB43 Jared Odrick Penn State DT43 DE34 *Golden Tate Notre Dame WRS WRF KR--------------------Voted Off by /dev/null *Ryan Mathews Fresno State RBF-------------------voted off by BobDVA Kyle Wilson Boise State CB---------------Voted Off By KOKBILLS *Anthony Davis Rutgers OT----------------------voted off by pushthepile Sergio Kindle Texas OLB34 OLB43 DE43 Devin McCourty Rutgers CB----------------voted off by uticaclub Jermaine Gresham Oklahoma TE---------------Voted Off By SawchukBills *Maurkice Pouncey Florida OC OG -------------------------------------ROUND 2----------------------------------------- *Brian Price UCLA DT43 Charles Brown USC OT *Jahvid Best California RBC KR--------------------Voted Off by /dev/null Jerry Hughes TCU OLB34 DE43 OLB43 Brandon Spikes Florida ILB OLB34 OLB43---------Voted off by turftoe Daryl Washington TCU ILB OLB43 Corey Wootton Northwestern DE43 DE34 *Kareem Jackson Alabama CB--------------------voted off by Art in RTP *Demaryius Thomas Georgia Tech WRP Ricky Sapp Clemson DE43 OLB34 *Dominique Franks Oklahoma CB KR----------------Voted off by HuuugeBills Colt McCoy Texas QB-------------------Voted Off By Beerball *Jonathan Dwyer Georgia Tech RBF----------------------------voted off by uticaclub Brandon LaFell LSU WRF-----------------voted off by pushthepile Patrick Robinson Florida State CB---------------Voted Off By KOKBILLS Nate Allen South Florida FS--------------------Voted Off By Astrobot Terrence Cody Alabama DT34 DT43 *Damian Williams USC WRF---------------------Voted off by Celtic_Soulja Rodger Saffold Indiana OT OG Dexter McCluster Mississippi WRS KR Tyson Alualu California DT43 Tim Tebow Florida QB-- Voted off by BuffaloBlood *Rob Gronkowski Arizona TE---------------Voted Off By SawchukBills Vladimir Ducasse Massachusetts OG OT *Chad Jones LSU SS OLB43---------------Voted Off By BGIOP *Arrelious Benn Illinois WRF KR Koa Misi Utah DE43 OLB34 Brandon Ghee Wake Forest CB--------------------voted off by Sven233 John Jerry Mississippi OG OT *Morgan Burnett Georgia Tech SS *Aaron Hernandez Florida TE FB *Toby Gerhart Stanford RBF----------------------voted off by BobDVA
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Buffalo in desparate need of Tight End production...
Astrobot replied to Buffalo Beeeews's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Looking late in the draft, past Garrett Graham, Dennis Pitta, Colin Peek, and Tony Moeaki (all 4th Rounders I think), you could get one tight end in RD6 or RD7. Here's who ought to be there: Colin Peek-----------Alabama--------at RD5#136-----Least value at that pick (-16) Andrew Quarless----Penn State------at RD6#182----Moderate value at that pick (+1) Nate Byham---------Pittsburgh--------at RD7#200---Most value at that pick (+2) Given our needs, I'll predict Nate Byham--The All Big East tight end. The numbers compare where he's picked with where he is on our Big Board. There is no doubt in my mind that New England grabs one of the 4th Rounders, so we'll be seeing one of them twice a year. -
-----------------------------------ROUND 1----------------------------------------- C.J. Spiller Clemson RBC KR--------------------voted off by Beerball *Derrick Morgan Georgia Tech DE43 -------Voted off by turftoe *Joe Haden Florida CB KR---------------Voted Off By Astrobot *Bryan Bulaga Iowa LT LG *Dez Bryant Oklahoma State WRF KR--Voted off by BuffaloBlood *Jimmy Clausen Notre Dame QB-------------------Voted Off by Celtic_Soulja *Rolando McClain Alabama ILB OLB43 Brandon Graham Michigan DE43 OLB34--------------------voted off by Sven233 Trent Williams Oklahoma LT RT-----------------voted off by tonyjustbcuz *Jason Pierre-Paul South Florida DE43---------------Voted Off By BGIOP Taylor Mays USC FS SS--------------------voted off by Art in RTP Mike Iupati Idaho OG OT *Earl Thomas Texas FS SS CB-----------------Voted off by HuuugeBills Dan Williams Tennessee DT34 DT43 *Everson Griffen USC DE43 OLB34 *Bruce Campbell Maryland OT *Carlos Dunlap Florida DE43 DE34 Sean Weatherspoon Missouri OLB43 Jared Odrick Penn State DT43 DE34 *Golden Tate Notre Dame WRS WRF KR--------------------Voted Off by /dev/null *Ryan Mathews Fresno State RBF-----------------voted off by wizard Kyle Wilson Boise State CB---------------Voted Off By KOKBILLS *Anthony Davis Rutgers OT----------------------voted off by pushthepile Sergio Kindle Texas OLB34 OLB43 DE43 Devin McCourty Rutgers CB----------------voted off by uticaclub Jermaine Gresham Oklahoma TE---------------Voted Off By SawchukBills *Maurkice Pouncey Florida OC OG -------------------------------------ROUND 2----------------------------------------- *Brian Price UCLA DT43 Charles Brown USC OT *Jahvid Best California RBC KR--------------------Voted Off by /dev/null Jerry Hughes TCU OLB34 DE43 OLB43 Brandon Spikes Florida ILB OLB34 OLB43---------Voted off by turftoe Daryl Washington TCU ILB OLB43 Corey Wootton Northwestern DE43 DE34 *Kareem Jackson Alabama CB--------------------voted off by Art in RTP *Demaryius Thomas Georgia Tech WRP Ricky Sapp Clemson DE43 OLB34 *Dominique Franks Oklahoma CB KR----------------Voted off by HuuugeBills Colt McCoy Texas QB-------------------Voted Off By Beerball *Jonathan Dwyer Georgia Tech RBF----------------------------voted off by uticaclub Brandon LaFell LSU WRF-----------------voted off by pushthepile Patrick Robinson Florida State CB---------------Voted Off By KOKBILLS Nate Allen South Florida FS--------------------Voted Off By Astrobot Terrence Cody Alabama DT34 DT43 *Damian Williams USC WRF---------------------Voted off by Celtic_Soulja Rodger Saffold Indiana OT OG Dexter McCluster Mississippi WRS KR-----------------voted off by wizard Tyson Alualu California DT43 Tim Tebow Florida QB-- Voted off by BuffaloBlood *Rob Gronkowski Arizona TE---------------Voted Off By SawchukBills Vladimir Ducasse Massachusetts OG OT *Chad Jones LSU SS OLB43---------------Voted Off By BGIOP *Arrelious Benn Illinois WRF KR Koa Misi Utah DE43 OLB34 Brandon Ghee Wake Forest CB--------------------voted off by Sven233 John Jerry Mississippi OG OT *Morgan Burnett Georgia Tech SS *Aaron Hernandez Florida TE FB-----------------voted off by tonyjustbcuz Toby Gerhart Stanford RBF
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-----------------------------------ROUND 1----------------------------------------- C.J. Spiller Clemson RBC KR--------------------voted off by Beerball *Derrick Morgan Georgia Tech DE43 -------Voted off by turftoe *Joe Haden Florida CB KR---------------Voted Off By Astrobot *Bryan Bulaga Iowa LT LG *Dez Bryant Oklahoma State WRF KR--Voted off by BuffaloBlood *Jimmy Clausen Notre Dame QB-------------------Voted Off by Celtic_Soulja *Rolando McClain Alabama ILB OLB43 Brandon Graham Michigan DE43 OLB34--------------------voted off by Sven233 Trent Williams Oklahoma LT RT *Jason Pierre-Paul South Florida DE43---------------Voted Off By BGIOP Taylor Mays USC FS SS--------------------voted off by Art in RTP Mike Iupati Idaho OG OT *Earl Thomas Texas FS SS CB-----------------Voted off by HuuugeBills Dan Williams Tennessee DT34 DT43 *Everson Griffen USC DE43 OLB34 *Bruce Campbell Maryland OT *Carlos Dunlap Florida DE43 DE34 Sean Weatherspoon Missouri OLB43 Jared Odrick Penn State DT43 DE34 *Golden Tate Notre Dame WRS WRF KR--------------------Voted Off by /dev/null *Ryan Mathews Fresno State RBF Kyle Wilson Boise State CB---------------Voted Off By KOKBILLS *Anthony Davis Rutgers OT----------------------voted off by pushthepile Sergio Kindle Texas OLB34 OLB43 DE43 Devin McCourty Rutgers CB----------------voted off by uticaclub Jermaine Gresham Oklahoma TE---------------Voted Off By SawchukBills *Maurkice Pouncey Florida OC OG -------------------------------------ROUND 2----------------------------------------- *Brian Price UCLA DT43 Charles Brown USC OT *Jahvid Best California RBC KR--------------------Voted Off by /dev/null Jerry Hughes TCU OLB34 DE43 OLB43 Brandon Spikes Florida ILB OLB34 OLB43---------Voted off by turftoe Daryl Washington TCU ILB OLB43 Corey Wootton Northwestern DE43 DE34 *Kareem Jackson Alabama CB--------------------voted off by Art in RTP *Demaryius Thomas Georgia Tech WRP Ricky Sapp Clemson DE43 OLB34 *Dominique Franks Oklahoma CB KR----------------Voted off by HuuugeBills Colt McCoy Texas QB-------------------Voted Off By Beerball *Jonathan Dwyer Georgia Tech RBF----------------------------voted off by uticaclub Brandon LaFell LSU WRF-----------------voted off by pushthepile Patrick Robinson Florida State CB---------------Voted Off By KOKBILLS Nate Allen South Florida FS--------------------Voted Off By Astrobot Terrence Cody Alabama DT34 DT43 *Damian Williams USC WRF---------------------Voted off by Celtic_Soulja Rodger Saffold Indiana OT OG Dexter McCluster Mississippi WRS KR Tyson Alualu California DT43 Tim Tebow Florida QB-- Voted off by BuffaloBlood *Rob Gronkowski Arizona TE---------------Voted Off By SawchukBills Vladimir Ducasse Massachusetts OG OT *Chad Jones LSU SS OLB43---------------Voted Off By BGIOP *Arrelious Benn Illinois WRF KR Koa Misi Utah DE43 OLB34 Brandon Ghee Wake Forest CB--------------------voted off by Sven233 John Jerry Mississippi OG OT *Morgan Burnett Georgia Tech SS *Aaron Hernandez Florida TE FB Toby Gerhart Stanford RBF
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-----------------------------------ROUND 1----------------------------------------- C.J. Spiller Clemson RBC KR--------------------voted off by Beerball *Derrick Morgan Georgia Tech DE43 -------Voted off by turftoe *Joe Haden Florida CB KR---------------Voted Off By Astrobot *Bryan Bulaga Iowa LT LG *Dez Bryant Oklahoma State WRF KR--Voted off by BuffaloBlood *Jimmy Clausen Notre Dame QB-------------------Voted Off by Celtic_Soulja *Rolando McClain Alabama ILB OLB43 Brandon Graham Michigan DE43 OLB34--------------------voted off by Sven233 Trent Williams Oklahoma LT RT *Jason Pierre-Paul South Florida DE43---------------Voted Off By BGIOP Taylor Mays USC FS SS--------------------voted off by Art in RTP Mike Iupati Idaho OG OT *Earl Thomas Texas FS SS CB Dan Williams Tennessee DT34 DT43 *Everson Griffen USC DE43 OLB34 *Bruce Campbell Maryland OT *Carlos Dunlap Florida DE43 DE34 Sean Weatherspoon Missouri OLB43 Jared Odrick Penn State DT43 DE34 *Golden Tate Notre Dame WRS WRF KR--------------------Voted Off by /dev/null *Ryan Mathews Fresno State RBF Kyle Wilson Boise State CB---------------Voted Off By KOKBILLS *Anthony Davis Rutgers OT----------------------voted off by pushthepile Sergio Kindle Texas OLB34 OLB43 DE43 Devin McCourty Rutgers CB----------------voted off by uticaclub Jermaine Gresham Oklahoma TE---------------Voted Off By SawchukBills *Maurkice Pouncey Florida OC OG -------------------------------------ROUND 2----------------------------------------- *Brian Price UCLA DT43 Charles Brown USC OT *Jahvid Best California RBC KR--------------------Voted Off by /dev/null Jerry Hughes TCU OLB34 DE43 OLB43 Brandon Spikes Florida ILB OLB34 OLB43---------Voted off by turftoe Daryl Washington TCU ILB OLB43 Corey Wootton Northwestern DE43 DE34 *Kareem Jackson Alabama CB--------------------voted off by Art in RTP *Demaryius Thomas Georgia Tech WRP Ricky Sapp Clemson DE43 OLB34 *Dominique Franks Oklahoma CB KR Colt McCoy Texas QB-------------------Voted Off By Beerball *Jonathan Dwyer Georgia Tech RBF----------------------------voted off by uticaclub Brandon LaFell LSU WRF-----------------voted off by pushthepile Patrick Robinson Florida State CB---------------Voted Off By KOKBILLS Nate Allen South Florida FS--------------------Voted Off By Astrobot Terrence Cody Alabama DT34 DT43 *Damian Williams USC WRF---------------------Voted off by Celtic_Soulja Rodger Saffold Indiana OT OG Dexter McCluster Mississippi WRS KR Tyson Alualu California DT43 Tim Tebow Florida QB-- Voted off by BuffaloBlood *Rob Gronkowski Arizona TE---------------Voted Off By SawchukBills Vladimir Ducasse Massachusetts OG OT *Chad Jones LSU SS OLB43---------------Voted Off By BGIOP *Arrelious Benn Illinois WRF KR Koa Misi Utah DE43 OLB34 Brandon Ghee Wake Forest CB--------------------voted off by Sven233 John Jerry Mississippi OG OT *Morgan Burnett Georgia Tech SS *Aaron Hernandez Florida TE FB Toby Gerhart Stanford RBF
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-----------------------------------ROUND 1----------------------------------------- C.J. Spiller Clemson RBC KR--------------------voted off by Beerball *Derrick Morgan Georgia Tech DE43 -------Voted off by turftoe *Joe Haden Florida CB KR---------------Voted Off By Astrobot *Bryan Bulaga Iowa LT LG *Dez Bryant Oklahoma State WRF KR--Voted off by BuffaloBlood *Jimmy Clausen Notre Dame QB-------------------Voted Off by Celtic_Soulja *Rolando McClain Alabama ILB OLB43 Brandon Graham Michigan DE43 OLB34--------------------voted off by Sven233 Trent Williams Oklahoma LT RT *Jason Pierre-Paul South Florida DE43---------------Voted Off By BGIOP Taylor Mays USC FS SS--------------------voted off by Art in RTP Mike Iupati Idaho OG OT *Earl Thomas Texas FS SS CB Dan Williams Tennessee DT34 DT43 *Everson Griffen USC DE43 OLB34 *Bruce Campbell Maryland OT *Carlos Dunlap Florida DE43 DE34 Sean Weatherspoon Missouri OLB43 Jared Odrick Penn State DT43 DE34 *Golden Tate Notre Dame WRS WRF KR--------------------Voted Off by /dev/null *Ryan Mathews Fresno State RBF Kyle Wilson Boise State CB---------------Voted Off By KOKBILLS *Anthony Davis Rutgers OT----------------------voted off by pushthepile Sergio Kindle Texas OLB34 OLB43 DE43 Devin McCourty Rutgers CB Jermaine Gresham Oklahoma TE---------------Voted Off By SawchukBills *Maurkice Pouncey Florida OC OG -------------------------------------ROUND 2----------------------------------------- *Brian Price UCLA DT43 Charles Brown USC OT *Jahvid Best California RBC KR--------------------Voted Off by /dev/null Jerry Hughes TCU OLB34 DE43 OLB43 Brandon Spikes Florida ILB OLB34 OLB43---------Voted off by turftoe Daryl Washington TCU ILB OLB43 Corey Wootton Northwestern DE43 DE34 *Kareem Jackson Alabama CB--------------------voted off by Art in RTP *Demaryius Thomas Georgia Tech WRP Ricky Sapp Clemson DE43 OLB34 *Dominique Franks Oklahoma CB KR Colt McCoy Texas QB-------------------Voted Off By Beerball *Jonathan Dwyer Georgia Tech RBF Brandon LaFell LSU WRF-----------------voted off by pushthepile Patrick Robinson Florida State CB---------------Voted Off By KOKBILLS Nate Allen South Florida FS--------------------Voted Off By Astrobot Terrence Cody Alabama DT34 DT43 *Damian Williams USC WRF---------------------Voted off by Celtic_Soulja Rodger Saffold Indiana OT OG Dexter McCluster Mississippi WRS KR Tyson Alualu California DT43 Tim Tebow Florida QB-- Voted off by BuffaloBlood *Rob Gronkowski Arizona TE---------------Voted Off By SawchukBills Vladimir Ducasse Massachusetts OG OT *Chad Jones LSU SS OLB43---------------Voted Off By BGIOP *Arrelious Benn Illinois WRF KR Koa Misi Utah DE43 OLB34 Brandon Ghee Wake Forest CB--------------------voted off by Sven233 John Jerry Mississippi OG OT *Morgan Burnett Georgia Tech SS *Aaron Hernandez Florida TE FB Toby Gerhart Stanford RBF Forgot to update...
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OK then......I will take out Brandon Graham in Round 1 (we don't need another conversion guy at OLB......we have a ton of them) and Brandon Ghee in Round 2 (we do not need any more corners....especially drafted this early). ------------------------------------ROUND 1----------------------------------------- C.J. Spiller Clemson RBC KR--------------------voted off by Beerball *Derrick Morgan Georgia Tech DE43 -------Voted off by turftoe *Joe Haden Florida CB KR---------------Voted Off By Astrobot *Bryan Bulaga Iowa LT LG *Dez Bryant Oklahoma State WRF KR--Voted off by BuffaloBlood *Jimmy Clausen Notre Dame QB-------------------Voted Off by Celtic_Soulja *Rolando McClain Alabama ILB OLB43 Brandon Graham Michigan DE43 OLB34--------------------voted off by Sven233 Trent Williams Oklahoma LT RT *Jason Pierre-Paul South Florida DE43---------------Voted Off By BGIOP Taylor Mays USC FS SS--------------------voted off by Art in RTP Mike Iupati Idaho OG OT *Earl Thomas Texas FS SS CB Dan Williams Tennessee DT34 DT43 *Everson Griffen USC DE43 OLB34 *Bruce Campbell Maryland OT *Carlos Dunlap Florida DE43 DE34 Sean Weatherspoon Missouri OLB43 Jared Odrick Penn State DT43 DE34 *Golden Tate Notre Dame WRS WRF KR--------------------Voted Off by /dev/null *Ryan Mathews Fresno State RBF Kyle Wilson Boise State CB---------------Voted Off By KOKBILLS *Anthony Davis Rutgers OT----------------------voted off by pushthepile Sergio Kindle Texas OLB34 OLB43 DE43 Devin McCourty Rutgers CB Jermaine Gresham Oklahoma TE *Maurkice Pouncey Florida OC OG -------------------------------------ROUND 2----------------------------------------- *Brian Price UCLA DT43 Charles Brown USC OT *Jahvid Best California RBC KR--------------------Voted Off by /dev/null Jerry Hughes TCU OLB34 DE43 OLB43 Brandon Spikes Florida ILB OLB34 OLB43---------Voted off by turftoe Daryl Washington TCU ILB OLB43 Corey Wootton Northwestern DE43 DE34 *Kareem Jackson Alabama CB--------------------voted off by Art in RTP *Demaryius Thomas Georgia Tech WRP Ricky Sapp Clemson DE43 OLB34 *Dominique Franks Oklahoma CB KR Colt McCoy Texas QB-------------------Voted Off By Beerball *Jonathan Dwyer Georgia Tech RBF Brandon LaFell LSU WRF-----------------voted off by pushthepile Patrick Robinson Florida State CB---------------Voted Off By KOKBILLS Nate Allen South Florida FS--------------------Voted Off By Astrobot Terrence Cody Alabama DT34 DT43 *Damian Williams USC WRF---------------------Voted off by Celtic_Soulja Rodger Saffold Indiana OT OG Dexter McCluster Mississippi WRS KR Tyson Alualu California DT43 Tim Tebow Florida QB-- Voted off by BuffaloBlood *Rob Gronkowski Arizona TE Vladimir Ducasse Massachusetts OG OT *Chad Jones LSU SS OLB43---------------Voted Off By BGIOP *Arrelious Benn Illinois WRF KR Koa Misi Utah DE43 OLB34 Brandon Ghee Wake Forest CB--------------------voted off by Sven233 John Jerry Mississippi OG OT *Morgan Burnett Georgia Tech SS *Aaron Hernandez Florida TE FB Toby Gerhart Stanford RBF
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------------------------------------ROUND 1----------------------------------------- C.J. Spiller Clemson RBC KR--------------------voted off by Beerball *Derrick Morgan Georgia Tech DE43 -------Voted off by turftoe *Joe Haden Florida CB KR---------------Voted Off By Astrobot *Bryan Bulaga Iowa LT LG *Dez Bryant Oklahoma State WRF KR--Voted off by BuffaloBlood *Jimmy Clausen Notre Dame QB-------------------Voted Off by Celtic_Soulja *Rolando McClain Alabama ILB OLB43 Brandon Graham Michigan DE43 OLB34 Trent Williams Oklahoma LT RT *Jason Pierre-Paul South Florida DE43---------------Voted Off By BGIOP Taylor Mays USC FS SS--------------------voted off by Art in RTP, and sven233 Mike Iupati Idaho OG OT *Earl Thomas Texas FS SS CB Dan Williams Tennessee DT34 DT43 *Everson Griffen USC DE43 OLB34 *Bruce Campbell Maryland OT *Carlos Dunlap Florida DE43 DE34 Sean Weatherspoon Missouri OLB43 Jared Odrick Penn State DT43 DE34 *Golden Tate Notre Dame WRS WRF KR--------------------Voted Off by /dev/null *Ryan Mathews Fresno State RBF Kyle Wilson Boise State CB---------------Voted Off By KOKBILLS *Anthony Davis Rutgers OT----------------------voted off by pushthepile Sergio Kindle Texas OLB34 OLB43 DE43 Devin McCourty Rutgers CB Jermaine Gresham Oklahoma TE *Maurkice Pouncey Florida OC OG -------------------------------------ROUND 2----------------------------------------- *Brian Price UCLA DT43 Charles Brown USC OT *Jahvid Best California RBC KR--------------------Voted Off by /dev/null Jerry Hughes TCU OLB34 DE43 OLB43 Brandon Spikes Florida ILB OLB34 OLB43---------Voted off by turftoe Daryl Washington TCU ILB OLB43 Corey Wootton Northwestern DE43 DE34 *Kareem Jackson Alabama CB--------------------voted off by Art in RTP *Demaryius Thomas Georgia Tech WRP Ricky Sapp Clemson DE43 OLB34 *Dominique Franks Oklahoma CB KR Colt McCoy Texas QB-------------------Voted Off By Beerball *Jonathan Dwyer Georgia Tech RBF Brandon LaFell LSU WRF-----------------voted off by pushthepile Patrick Robinson Florida State CB---------------Voted Off By KOKBILLS Nate Allen South Florida FS--------------------Voted Off By Astrobot Terrence Cody Alabama DT34 DT43 *Damian Williams USC WRF---------------------Voted off by Celtic_Soulja Rodger Saffold Indiana OT OG Dexter McCluster Mississippi WRS KR Tyson Alualu California DT43 Tim Tebow Florida QB-- Voted off by BuffaloBlood *Rob Gronkowski Arizona TE Vladimir Ducasse Massachusetts OG OT *Chad Jones LSU SS OLB43---------------Voted Off By BGIOP *Arrelious Benn Illinois WRF KR Koa Misi Utah DE43 OLB34 Brandon Ghee Wake Forest CB John Jerry Mississippi OG OT *Morgan Burnett Georgia Tech SS *Aaron Hernandez Florida TE FB Toby Gerhart Stanford RBF ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Berry won't be available at our pick, so I left him off. And sven, you voted for someone already voted off. Do you guys work in the War Room at the draft, by any chance?...
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Dolphins sign Incognito- 1 year deal
Steely Dan replied to Deep2Moulds46's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Parcells doesn't coach the Dolphins. What he said. Here's some from Rotoworld; http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpag...NFL&id=3291 Richie Incognito-G- Dolphins Mar. 17 - 10:13 am et Dolphins reached agreement with G Richie Incognito, formerly of the Bills, on a one-year contract. The Bengals and Colts were also linked to Incognito, an unrestricted free agent. If he can keep his temper under control, Incognito will likely push Donald Thomas and Nate Garner for the right guard job while upgrading Miami's already strong run blocking. Look for the deal to be incentive laden. Source: Edgar Thompson on Twitter Related: Donald Thomas, Nate Garner, Dolphins Share via Facebook Share via Facebook Richie Incognito-G - Dolphins Mar. 16 - 10:04 pm et The Dolphins reportedly made an offer to free agent G/C Richie Incognito Tuesday, but it "didn't blow anyone away." Talks are expected to continue on Wednesday. Though the Colts have also shown interest, Incognito shouldn't expect much guaranteed money considering his history. Source: Armando Salguero on Twitter Richie Incognito-G - Dolphins Mar. 16 - 3:11 am et After his Monday night/Tuesday meeting with Dolphins brass, free agent G/C Richie Incognito is scheduled for a phone interview with the Colts. The Colts would presumably fly Incognito to team headquarters if they were serious about signing him. A longtime head case, Incognito wants to prove that he can "be accountable for my emotion both on and off the field." Source: Miami Herald Richie Incognito-G - Dolphins Mar. 15 - 12:39 pm et The Bengals are hosting free agent G/C Richie Incognito on Monday. Incognito has a trip to Miami lined up for Tuesday. In Cincinnati, Incognito could be an option to succeed 33-year-old free agent RG Bobbie Williams. Source: National Football Post Let's see; One year deal with the Dolphins For what is probably a pittance contract The Colts never ended up bringing him in. Obviously Polian passed. The Bengals didn't want hm. The Bills didn't want him The Rams didn't want him 27 other teams didn't even give him a call. Anyone who can go down that list and find a reason Buffalo should have kept him is deluding themselves. The small contract, I'm assuming, is there so if/when they cut him they won't be dealt a big money hit. Cap or no cap they don't want to throw money to the wind. I'll be very interested to see what the terms are. I'm guessing this is a take it or leave it be glad we're gonna give you one more chance in this league contract. The boo birds who call RW cheap should shudder at the thought that RW could have had a dirt cheap player but still passed. The guy must have had serious problems if RW passed on a dirt cheap player, right? -
For over 10 years now, the Bills have had more misses than hits when it comes to their 1st round draft pick(s). With either choosing the wrong player, trading for veterans that didn't last (Rob Johnson, Drew Bledsoe) or trading up in the draft, is a huge reason why the Bills have failed to make the playoffs this past decade. A team's 1st round draft choice is suppose to be a guy that usually stays for 10 to 15 years (depending upon the position they play). Here's the Bills 1st round draft picks since 1998: 1998: Traded 1st round pick to Jacksonville for Rob "I Fallen and can't get up" Johnson. Jacksonville chooses RB Fred Taylor with our pick. Fred Taylor would have been a great choice since Thurman Thomas' career was winding down at that point. Instead, we use our 9th pick on a player that was with us for 4 years and was a huge bust. 1999: Antoine Winfield. Great pick, but the Bills chose not to resign Winfield and he was gone after 5 years. 2000: Erik Flowers. Do I need to say more?! 2001: Nate Clements. A good pick but wanted too much money to stay. I don't blame the Bills for not wanting to pay him 8 years, $80 million. 2002: Mike Williams. Donahoe made a huge error in picking Williams over Bryant McKinnie. Williams was on the Bills for 4 years before he was sent packing, while McKinnie is still a starting tackle for the Minnesota Vikings. 2003: Willis McGahee. This was a waste of a pick, considering Travis Henry had 1,438 rushing yards, 13 rushing TD's and 309 receiving yards the season before. 2004: Lee Evans (13th) J.P. Losman (22nd). Evans is a good WR, but he has been inconsistent. Evans would be a great #2 WR to a bigger, more physical #1 WR. Evans lacks the size to be a true #1 WR since he is unable outmuscle DB's and outleap them. Not a bad pick by any means. J.P. Losman lasted 5 years on the team but was badly mismanaged and showed he didn't have what it took to be a full-time starter in the NFL. Donahoe traded our 1st round 2005 pick for Losman which proved to be a big mistake. 2006: Donte Whitner (8th) John McCargo (26th). Marv Levy decided to choose Whitner over Haloti Ngata, that one still has Bills fans scratching their heads... Obviously, that was a huge mistake, but Levy felt he could trade back up into the 1st round and grab a DT. McCargo has been a bust and is still on the team. 2007: Marshawn "20 Dollar" Lynch. It has been rumored that Levy/Jauron wanted shut-down corner Derrell Revis, but Ralph Wilson wanted Lynch. Lynch is a good RB, but it looks like he could be trade bait and IMO was the wrong choice. 2008: Leodis "Take a knee" McKelvin. It's still too early to say if he was the right or wrong choice. McKelvin has shown some promise, but had Bills fans cursing his name after fumbling a kickoff return in the season opener against the dreaded Patriots in 2009. 2009: Aaron Maybin (11th) Eric Wood (28th). Like McKelvin, it's too early to pass judgment, but so far, Maybin looks like the second coming of Erik Flowers. This was another pick that had Bills fans scratching their heads when Michael Oher and Brian Orakpo were still on the board. Let's hope our new coaches can make Maybin into a good LB. So far, so good with Eric Wood. Wood looked great in the games he played in and everyone wishes him a speedy recovery. Buddy Nix has said he plans to draft well and fill in some holes in free agency using middle of the road guys. So far, Nix & co have only signed two free agents. I like Nix's philosophy that he plans to spend the big money on the players he drafts and those he wants to resign. But, with the Bills not making a big splash in free agency so far, it's hard to get excited about the upcoming season. If Nix's philosophy works, like it did in San Diego, then we'll have a powerhouse team for many years. So if it will take a year or two of missing the playoffs and going through growing pains with the Bills (again) to make this team into a long-term winner, then I'm all for it. Let's all hope that Nix's draft choices, especially the 1st rounders are home runs and not pop flys.
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Why the Bills should be better in 2010.
tonyjustbcuz replied to Coach55's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
I love your optimism, and rather you were right than me with my gloomy diagnosis of the Bills organization and projected record for the upcoming season! There is no way that this team will be better than .500 this season and that's beyond reasonable as I think 4 or 5 wins is on the mark. Historically, if you look at how teams fare the season that they switch from the 4/3 defense to the 3/4 defense it is not pretty! I believe if I remember correctly that 4 or 5 wins is better than the average of a team that switches defense. Add that we have mostly new Management except for Tom Modrak, Russ Brandon and a couple of other behind the scenes people, a entirely new coaching staff that has little NFL experience. Yes, Chan Gailey has some, but not a momentus amount and he was only marginally successful. Most of their coaches come from the 2nd best College in Georgia...Georgia Tech...maybe not even 2nd? Then they hire Buddy Nix who is likeable but comes with no GM experience (Sounds like another Marv Levy...great guy, but out of his territorial waters)...You have to take into account the repetitious injuries that have plagued the Bills over the past several years. By God, they had 20 guys on injured reserve last season. That is beyond the norm...and hopefully this staff will get them in game shape. I don't even think the Bills organization from what I understand is optimistic about a winning season year. I think one of the people in management was interviewed and mentioned that it is going to take some time to right this ship? There are many holes on this team, which is like looking at a piece of swiss cheese! IMO Trent Edwards is not the right QB to lead the offense. Trent Edwards even at his best was lousy in every contest that the weather was not ideal! If it's raining, snowing, cold, foggy, on turf, away games, etc...Trent is a non-productive QB ! If it is a home game against Seattle, Oakland, Detroit and it is 72 degrees and partly sunny and nobody is injured and it's early in the year then Trent Edwards is capable of throwing 2 touchdowns/1 interception for 215 yards !! But if it's anything but ideal forget it...and now that he has had multiple concussions I think he plays scared. I don't like him as a player and don't see that he is improving at all. I see him regressing, lacking confidence, injury prone, lacking football intelligence even though he is book smart. I think if we start Trent this year it will quickly turn into another washed out season by week #8. I think M. Lynch has a bad attitude and it has been discussed that a lot of his teamates are turned off by his condescending attitude. I think he is bad for morale and for the city of Buffalo and if the Bills are as serious as you say about winning you should see him gone before the beginning of the season. That will be one indicator rather the Bills are heading in the right direction or not to me. Roscoe Parrish has made it clear that he wants to move on...and personally if a player doens't want to be here..I don't want him and neither should the coaches. The only way I see that changing is if the Bill's plan on starting him at WR. I don't want that as I don't think he is a starter at the position but one heck of a special teams player and a good changeup. If he remains here I'd be surprised, and maybe even disappointed. The Bills sure lack for WR's who can usually be drafted in the early rounds. Defensive end positions on this team are a mess! You got that guy I barely can remember hmmm...I'll get back to him..and you are probably losing A. Schobel to retirement, but even if he sticks for another year...He's done! Once your contemplating retirement your on your way out the door...except for Brett Favre...lol Aaron Maybe Maybin is a whole segment..how disappointing is it when they draft players way undersized with the belief that they will grow into their frame in about 2 or three years...By the time he does he'll probably be just about gone...as the Bills rarely keep their players when come to fruitation~ And I am right about that...ie: London Fletcher, Jabari Greer, Nate Clements, Sam Cowhart, Antwoine Winfield, Pat Williaims,.....and many more...alot of talent that the Bills won't pay for. So when the talent begins to peak, the Bills don't compete to keep a player. Instead N.O. gets Greer who is a good player! Each time the Bills do this, they have another hole to fill...and if you get a FA stop gap player like Buddy Nix stated...then yes you fill the hole but not the talent void at a discount. You substitute quality with numbers which leads you to patching holes each season instead of building and adding on to what you have. It's a sinking boat with a waterpump! Yes, your keeping up with the rising water, but your not making progress...Instead of being proactive the Bills are being reactive!! Again, I just don't understand why you think the Bills are going to be 10-6 ??? Based on what....??? QB? No ....WR's ? NO... RB's ? You have one! But when you need to get into the endzone and need a tough 3 yards on 3rd down..what always happens with the Bills? They attempt a FG !!! F. Jackson is more elusive than powerful ! Okay, based on LB's NO! Who Pozinjury...Pozluzny..whatever, NYG's former player...can't even remember his name he's hidden so well? Nah...not LB'S no! DT's Nope! Holes across the line! Big weakness not worth arguing over that one.....Okay our O LINE? Hope E. WOODS recovers that's a big if....Nobody as far as OLT that's going to protect the QB! Levitre may be okay...he's young has lots to learn yet...but overall NO! Looks like we're down to the kickers, special teams, and CB's when it comes to the strength of this team. That is something to build on but we're a long way from the playoffs! We lose a lot of close games...sure...but the better teams make more plays and win the close ones...Detroit lost several close games in their winless season! Nobody remembers that....and then they improved some and won 2 Games last season. So what, It's not a great leaugue but we're not nearly good enough to win 10 games. The Bills are in a major rebuilding stage only you don't realize that and neither does a lot of fans. That's okay, put the blinders on...but when it's all said and done next season and the Bills are 5-11 next season (plus or minus one game)...Just remember I told you so! Please prove me wrong! Tell me that the Bills will re-sign any marquee players they develop at contract time! Tell me that they will get 9 starters our of this draft even though 4 picks are rounds 6 or 7! I think 3 starters would be very fortunate and that would just begin to fill a few of the many holes we have! Tell me that these coaches have sustained superior performance and we should blindly believe in them! Tell me that Tom Modrak won't make the same mistakes he's made with this organization the past 10 seasons when draft day comes! Tell me that the man with the Checkbook..yes R.W. will gladly pay 20, 30, 40, million dollars when we finally get a franchise QB instead of either trading down the pick or choosing another position that is not so expensive! Tell me that T. Edwards won't be a walking coma and throw a poor pass that hits the ground short of the receiver or that he will finally be able to sense defensive pressure closing in before being sacked and then fumbling the ball! If you can't convince your audience that you are posting to of some of these things, then just why are you trying to make us believe that the Bills are going to win 10 games this season!! A lot of what your saying sounds like yesterday's rubbish and unless you can support some of what your saying with fact it's utterly a waste of time. Thanks for playing though -
'Bama LB McLain could be the Bills pick
Astrobot replied to PromoTheRobot's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
After reading all that Saban stuff, I'll go with this draft: (I'm assuming all LT's we like are taken, Bradford and Clausen are taken) 1-Brandon Graham OLB34 Michigan---no one is better at the outside blitz--better player for 3-4 than McClain here 2-Rodger Saffold OT Indiana---the only guy he had trouble with this year was our #1 pick! 3-Cam Thomas DT34 North Carolina---Gum up the middle. Nose is important 4-Mike Neal DE34 Purdue---brute strength and quick first step, great in Shrine game 5-Pat Angerer ILB Iowa---led team in tackles, 2nd in Big10 in INT's 6-Derek Hardman OT Eastern Kentucky---46 consecutive starts at tackle (RT then LT) 6-Blair White WRF Michigan State----best in the business of sideline catches 7-Nate Byham TE Pittsburgh----all-Big East tight end last season - one scouting service had him #1TE 7-Chris Marinelli OT Stanford----his line led the Pac-10 in fewest sacks allowed, has experience at OG too -
TRADE DOWN,TRADE DOWN,TRADE DOWN
tonyjustbcuz replied to Since 1972's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Nothing like trading down to a talent level that in all probability will be closer to mediocrity when the Bills have been a mediocre team or worse the past decade. The nice thing about your plan is that by the time you have all your draft picks on the roster that their contracts will begin to mature in that 3-5 year window...and debate if you want to about this fact: That almost everytime a player reaches it's peak and their contract is due to be renewed the Bills get cold feet because they don't want to shell out the Big payday bucks. That is Ralph Wilson by the way that is responsible for that as he has the checkbook on payday! Therefore, players like Jabari Greer, Pat Williams, Antwoine Winfield, Nate Clements and you probably can name at least another 5 to 10 players just like those good players that walked...maybe Sam Cowhart, London Fletcher...etc...and the beat goes on! So it's not the method you acquire players, but it's also the mentality of the owner and the organization that holds this NFL franchise in the doldrums of the NFL basement. If you develop players, but don't keep your talent. Then you are always trying to fill gaps and replace players. Basically your just spinning your wheels in the snow, or staying afloat in a boat that your taking on water while filling up buckets of water and emptying over the side. It's actually simple...if you are to build a winning franchise, you must be willing take two steps forward in each year of your plan! You can't be purging and adding when it comes to talent. You only purge negative players who are non-achievers, detrimental to the character of the team (Lynch) etc... You try to add the highest quality player you have the fortune to add! This is why I do not believe you trade down in the draft!!!! The higher you pick, the greater amount of players you have to choose from. The higher the percentage of success you have in your opportunity to pick a future hall of famer! Notice, I said opportunity....as it's the organization's responsibility to have the scouting dept. to pick the right players! I'd rather trade-up almost everytime than trade down! I know this is a no-duh example, but it makes a point..... I would give up my entire draft if I could have drafted Peyton Manning when Indy did!!! Who else did Indy draft that year??? Who did we draft that year? Inconsequental isn't it!!! I know there are no guarantees when drafting a top OT, QB, NT, etc...but that's where your Bill Polian's come into play! Talent evaluation is so important and maybe where D.Whaley and Buddy Nix can do a lot of good!! I am just worried about the other third of that tandem: Tom Modrak!!!! He's had plenty long to have a postive imprint on the team's roster, and he doesn't. I am worried you will see more of the same, cutsie type of personnel moves and the lack of moves when necessary. I also am worried that when it's time to draft that a high-caliber draft pick may make the Bills shy away from selecting them at a skill position due to the whopping contract demands that for instance a top-10 QB would feel entitled to. I am not convinced in your theory, or the Bills organization methology of drafting, acquiring or re-signing players and therefore I have the misfortune and ability to predict the future rather accurately until they change the owner's and management's philosophies: 2010: 5-11 2011: 7-9 (If they play) 2012: Key year either 5-11 or 9-7 depending on if history repeats itself and this team runs this ship in the same fashion!! -
Trading down might make sense if you were a team that needed a lot of help in a lot of areas and you didn't care about drafting impact players - because you haven't been able to draft too many first round players that have had an impact on your team (*) in the last decade anyway (so why start now?). This list below is all you need to know about why there hasn't been one whiff of the playoffs in WNY for a very long time: 2000 Erik Flowers * 2001 Nate Clements 2002 Mike Williams * 2003 Willis McGahee * 2004 Lee Evans 2004 J.P. Losman * 2005 No 1st Round Pick, Roscoe Parrish (2nd Round) 2006 Donte Whitner * 2006 John McCargo * 2007 Marshawn Lynch * 2008 Leodis McKelvin T 2009 Aaron Maybin * 2009 Eric Wood ?
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If you go back and read what I said you'd see that I said he'd probably get picked up by someone (which hasn't happened yet) and that all of the people who were screaming about letting him go should be surprised that it wasn't until the second week of FA for a team to contact him. You would've thought that by all of the whining about cutting him he would have been immediately contacted by several teams. That's what I said. I also said his temper was probably a big part of the reason the Bills didn't want him back. That idea is backed up by the line in the following writeup from Rotoworld. From Rotoworld; Richie Incognito-G- Bills Mar. 14 - 11:07 am et The Dolphins are expected to bring in unrestricted free agent G/C Richie Incognito for a visit next week, according to Barry Jackson of the Miami Herald. The Dolphins put in a claim for Incognito after he was waived by the Rams in December, but the Bills had a higher priority. If Incognito could control his temper, he'd fit right in with the Dolphins' mauling offensive front. He could push Donald Thomas and Nate Garner for the right guard job. Source: Miami Herald I'm not the only one who thinks his temper is a problem and before somebody says, again, that the Bills need bad tempered guys on the line, I agree. They don't need RI bad tempered guys. Eric Wood is a good example he's nasty tempered on the field but doesn't get stupid penalties because of it and he turns it off when he leaves the field. If the Bills could find 5 Eric Wood temper guys the line would be impenetrable. If the Bills had 5 Incognito's they'd constantly be backing up due to stupid penalties. There's good aggressive and bad aggressive. JMO
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Jason Peters...a little salt
BADOLBILZ replied to BB Fan 4 LIFE's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Take what you make in a year, deduct 60% for hometown discount and tell me how much you want to work there. Simply a money issue. Used to happen practically every year with Orlando Pace and Walter Jones who were routinely franchised. The Bills made some mistakes in years past that surely emboldened Peters and his agent. Things like obliging players requests to be traded or released(McGahee and Takeo Spikes), agreeing to let Nate Clements become a unrestricted free agent when they had the right to franchise him and he had no leverage....... Some people here were actually adamant that that type of willingness to give in to player demands would somehow make the Bills look good to potential free agents. Like the Bills were therefore somehow "good guys" who cared about player needs. Truth is, what they had shown was that they had no backbone so Peters and his agent brought the fight right to them. He had no leverage. The Bills held the cards, they could pay him or make him play for what he had bargained for. He was either going to have to come to play in 2009 or he would have killed his premium earnings potential. Armed with the past histories of guys like Pace, Jones, Julius Peppers etc....the Bills took the easy way out, now they can certainly expect more of the same from good players on good value contracts in the future. If Byrd has a good season next year, expect a demand to renegotiate followed by a request for a trade. That's the formula in Buffalo. -
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Trade Marshawn Lynch and Donte Whitner to San Diego for Malcom Floyd and a 4th #126 The reason for Floyd, He`s 6'5" 225 lbs and ran a 4.45 coming out of college. Started 9 games and had 45 Rec. for 776 yrds and a 17.2 yrd average TD`s could be better. He`s only 28 and in my opinion ready to become that solid #2. The more he plays the better he get`s, check out his college and pro stat`s. College Wyoming. MALCOM FLOYD STATS Receiving Statistics No Yds Avg TD 2003 56 751 13.4 6 2002 27 427 15.8 3 2001 53 790 14.9 4 2000 40 340 8.5 1 Career 176 2,308 13.1 14 Pro Stat`s Season Team Receiving Rushing Fumbles G GS Rec Yds Avg Lng TD Att Yds Avg Lng TD FUM Lost 2009 San Diego Chargers 16 9 45 776 17.2 53 1 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 2008 San Diego Chargers 13 2 27 465 17.2 49T 4 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 2007 San Diego Chargers 6 1 7 97 13.9 25 0 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 2006 San Diego Chargers 12 0 15 210 14.0 46T 3 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 2005 San Diego Chargers 0 0 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 2004 San Diego Chargers 4 2 3 49 16.3 27 1 Next trade down a few spots in 1st round and pick up an xtra 3rd. The draft : 1.) Mike Iupati T/G Idaho. 2.) VLadimir Ducasse T/G Massachusetts. 3a.) Cam Thomas NT N.Carolina. (note: Get your big men first) 3b.) Koa Misi OLB Utah. 4a.) Cameron Sheffield OLB Troy, Stevenson Sylvester OLB Utah, Micah Johnson ILB Kentucky. 4b.) John Skelton QB Fordham, Johnathan Crompton QB Tennesse. 5.) Marcus Easley WR Conneticut, Seyi Ajirotutu WR Fresno St, James Straks RB Buffalo, Lonyae Miller RB Fresno St. 6a.) Chris Scott T/G Tennesse, Chris Marinelli T Stanford. 6b.) Nate Bynam TE Pitt, Nathan Overbay TE Eastern Washington, Michael Hoomanawanui TE Illinois. 7a.) Clifton Geathers DE S.Carolina, Jeffery Fitzgerald DE Kansas St. 7b.) Linval Joseph DT E.Carolina, Travis Ivey DT Maryland. Free agents i`d like to see brought in if available Tim Hiller QB Wwestern Michigan, Rusty Smith QB Florida Atlantic. Lamarcus Coker RB Hampton, Roy Upchurch RB Alabama. Verran Tucker WR California, Emmanuel Sanders WR SMU. Jeff Cumberland TE Illinois, Mickey Shuler TE Penn St. Casey Knips OL S.Dakota St, Ramon Harewood OL Morehouse. Alex Daniels DE Cincinnati, John Russell DE Wake Forrest. Malcolm Sheppard DT Arkansas, Jay Ross DT E.Carolina. George Johnson OLB Rutgers, Carl Ihenacho OLB San Jose St. Travis Goethel ILB Arizona St, Matt Mayberry ILB Indiana. A.J. Jefferson CB Fresno St, Nolan Carrol CB Maryland. Arron Webster FS/SS Cincinnati, John Amaya FS/SS Nevada. Aaron Pettrey K Ohio St. Brent Bowden P Va.Tech. Let me know what you think, The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly.
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Well, Marshawn Is Starting Off The Year Right
Webster Guy replied to H2o's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Maybe instead of bringing in financial advisors and league veterans to help immature guys like Marshawn, the Bills should bring in a guy like Travis Henry or Ray Buchanon or Nate Newton (when he gets out of the clink) and have them talk to the fools who either dont understand how short the typical NFL career really is, or don't grasp how low their earning potential is when they're out of the league in a few years. I think Gailey is going to make Marshawn his pet project (next to QB obviously). Its naive to think Freddy can carry the team for 17 weeks on his own, and unless they get another solid RB on draft day we need the Beast for a dozen touches per game this year. -
It just boggles the mind how many times we've crapped the bed on our first round picks this past decade. 2000: Erik Flowers 2001: Nate Clements 2002: Mike Williams 2003: Willis McGahee 2004: Lee Evans, JP Losman 2005: None 2006: Donte Whitner, John McCargo 2007: Marshawn Lynch 2008: Leodis McKelvin 2009: Aaron Maybin, Eric Wood Think about that: out of the last 12 first-round draft picks, only 3 are starters on our team (and two of those are the last two years). Unreal.
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