Jerry Jabber

It still blows my mind that Marty Schottenheimer wasn't even considered after Jauron was fired. Marty loves the run game, and would be perfect for the Bills considering they have a great 1-2 punch with Spiller & Jackson.

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I agree. My real wish is Nix gets fired, and Ralph brings back Bill Polian.

From twitter: "Jeff Russo ‏@JeffRussoWKBWBuddy Nix, through a #Bills spokesperson, will continue to wait until after the season to discuss future plans on coaches etc.."So Nix is no longer saying Gailey's job is safe, and will wait until after the season is over with to discuss future plans on coaches. Sounds like we might get our wish after all.

After today's debacle, I'm not wasting another $300 plus on the Sunday ticket to watch this team anymore. 13 years of missing the playoffs, 8 years since our last winning season, and we still look like a bottom feeder. I don't know what batch of kool-aid Russ Brandon and Buddy Nix will brew in the offseason, but I'm done drinking it. I'm just wondering, as fans, what did we do to deserve such harsh punishment?

Why am I watching these clowns?!

Just because Boss Hogg [Nix] says if they're gonna move up in the draft to get a QB, it doesn't necessarily mean it will happen with in the first round. If Boss Hogg can draft a WR-QB combo like they did in Cincinnati, then that would be great. The main thing is Boss Hogg can't draft another bust like Losman & Edwards, otherwise it will set the Bills back many years...again. After 13 years of missing the playoffs, patience is beyond worn thin with this organization.

If the Defense doesn't continue to show improvement next season, then IMO Wanny should be fired at the end of next year.

The defensive improvements have been offset by the offense's regressions. The Bills defense currently ranks 21st, and has the possibly of finishing the season in the top 20. Here's how many points the defense has given up recently: 15 (Rams), 18 (Jags), 13 (Colts, 7 points were from Special Teams), 14 Dolphins. When your defense holds your opponent to 20 points or under, that should be more than enough to get the win. If the Bills D gets into the Top 20, then I feel Wannstedt should be kept, but on a short leash. I would rather see Gailey fired, because of his indecision's and game time management, but if Nix decided that Gailey should be removed from his offensive play calling duties, if they were to decide to bring in Norv Turner or someone that is a competent offensive coordinator, then I would be fine with that. I don't want to see the Pitbull come from the Eagles as our QB, but then again, I don't want to see Fitz back either.

My wish list for the Bills: The Bills lose out and finish 5-11 Ralph gets so infuriated, he fires everyone from Buddy Nix on down. Ralph decides to have one more shot at the glory years by rehiring Bill Polian (even if it means bringing Polian's dufus son to the team) Within the next 2 years, Polian makes some draft day deals and gets the franchise QB we've been looking for since Jim Kelly retired Within the next 3 years, the Bills overtake the Pats as the AFC East champs, as we start to see home playoff games once again in Buffalo Within the next 5 years, the Bills make it back to the Superbowl and win it this time. Please Santa Claus, make these wishes come true. Being a Bills fan has been very painful, so it would be nice to have some joy again!

If Gailey is brought back, he should have his play calling duties removed. Norv Turner would be a good replacement as an offensive coordinator (not HC!)

A few of weeks ago, Buddy Nix stated that Chan Gailey's job was safe, and that switching Head Coaches every three years sets an organization back. Does Nix still feel the same way, especially after loses to the Colts & the Rams? If Gailey & Fitz are back in their respective roles next season, then good luck filling up Ralph Wilson stadium next year. This is fitting for the current situation:

A competent HC would be a good start!

Great job by the defense so far.

Thanks 3rdand12. Good points as well! Agree 100%

I liked Jasper too. Jasper busted his butt to lose a ton of weight in a short time. IMO, Jasper should have been on our practice squad again this past year.

Buddy was on the Bills at that time as a talent scout when Maybin was drafted. Let's take a look at some other draft gems: http://en.wikipedia....lo_Bills_season 2nd rd pick Torell Troup: Hasn't made an impact, and has been hurt for most of his career in the NFL to date. I do feel for the kid and hope he can recover. 4th rd pick Marcus Easley: Hasn't made an impact, and has been hurt for most of his career in the NFL to date. 5th rd pick Ed Wang: Cut 6th rd pick Danny Batten: Cut 7th rd pick Levi Brown: Cut 7th rd pick Kyle Calloway: Cut before preseason that year 2011 draft class 2nd round pick Aaron Williams: While his career is still young, he's one of the worst CB's in the league 5th round pick Johnny White: Is he still even on the team? (not being sarcastic) 6th round pick Chris White: same thing 7th round pick Michael Jasper: cut 2012 draft class 5th Round (144th Overall) – Zebrie Sanders (OT, Florida State): IR 5th Round (147th Overall) – Tank Carder (LB, TCU): Cut, playing on the Browns 6th Round (178th Overall) – Mark Asper (OG, Oregon): Cut 7th Round (251st Overall) – John Potter (K, Western Michigan): Cut for Lindell (who gailey was afraid of letting him kick a 50 yard FG in a dome). How about signing Cornell Green as a RT, yeah that was a great move. I used to think Jauron did a good job of getting the most out of his players, as the Bills led the league in injuries. I'm done thinking this team is getting closer, when they're not. Mismanagement has been a problem, as well as getting a franchise QB. The Bills haven't made the playoffs in 13 years for numerous reasons. Until the Bills start beating upper echelon teams like the Patriots, Texans, 49ers, Ravens, Broncos, Falcons, etc... then you can't say they're getting closer. Losing close to top teams is still the same result, it's a loss. You don't get points or move up in the standings for losing close games.

Yep, the Bills have been great at talent evaluation since 2000. That Maybin guy sure had a fast first step, didn't he? And how about that Mike Williams fellow, big guy from Texas, great Left Tackle in the league. Shall I continue...

:thumbsup: Thank you! But after 13 years of missing the playoffs, we're supposed to be wearing rose-colored glasses and continue to drink the kool-aid

Actually, the Bills ran a hybrid 3-4 defense, using the 4-3 about 40-45% of the time. We saw Moats have good production at OLB towards the end of the 2010 season (I believe), and earned recognition for ending Favre's Iron Man streak. I had no problem with Moats as an OLB, but the continuous switching back and forth from OLB to ILB was mind boggling. Moats is not an ILB, and did not do well at ILB. In a 3-4 defense, OLB are known to rush the passer, in a 4-3, OLB's are known for stopping the run and going out in coverage. Moats is good at rushing the passer, not playing out in coverage. Once, the Bills officially went back to a 4-3, they should have tried Moats out at both DE and OLB to see which one he did better at, that's poor evaluation on the Bills part. The same with putting Carrington & Spencer Johnson, two 300+ defensive linemen in at OLB. That made absolutely no sense at all! How do you actually expect two guys, the sizes of Carrington & Sp Johnson to go out in coverage?! Explain that one!!

Winning cures a lot of things.

I don't always focus on the negatives. I gave props to Fitz yesterday for having 3 consecutive seasons of passing 20TD's (first since Jim Kelly) and was bashed for it. Back to the subject at hand, if a player is better at one position than another, then you should put that player in the position that he does better at, that way the team benefits from it. Trying to fit a square peg into a round hole does not work, It's not rocket science.

Arthur Moats was a DE in college. Since he's been on the Bills, he's been shuffled all over the field and back again, from ILB to OLB to DE and back and forth numerous times. Moats is back at DE and is earning praise again from Gailey: "In recent weeks, he's moved back to his original position in the NFL -- DE, which is also where he played in college -- and he's given the Bills' injured defensive line a boost with limited reps. “We've been a little thin at defensive end and to give those guys a blow,” Gailey said. “And to be honest, the first time he went in there two weeks ago, he pushed the tackle right back into the quarterback and we remember what he did do when he was playing defensive end. It makes you remember those things, he's been at linebacker so long. So he's been a good change of pace to give us a little rest and give a little pressure to the quarterback.” http://www.cbssports.com/general/blog/nfl-rapidreports/21294920/bills-notebook-surgery-likely-for-rt-chris-hairston Also, look at last year when Alex Carrington & Spencer Johnson were playing at OLB. Two 300+lb D-linemen playing OLB? WTF were they thinking?! Carrington is having a break out year this year (so far) at defensive tackle and had his best game to date this past Sunday. Aaron Williams is another player that draft experts said would be a safety in the NFL, but yet the Bills put him in at CB. AW has been terrible at CB for the Bills this year.

:thumbsup: Thank you! If anyone thinks the Bills will be drafting an immediate starting QB next year is out of their mind. Expect to see Fitz have some competition in training camp, but he will be the Bills starting QB come Week 1. With having two stellar RB's, Fitz should only be throwing the ball 20-25 times a game (or less). I put that squarely on Gailey's shoulders. I agree 100% Like I stated before, Fitz would be an above average backup, but he is a below average starting QB as his inconsistencies and costly turnovers make him such.

Exactly. How many times with those QB's mentioned did we see the Bills offense score 10 to 13 points a game. Also, the Bills didn't have a QB that threw for over 300 yards in a game for numerous years until Fitz broke that streak.