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Is McGovern health enough to start at LG? And if not, is it going to be Edwards with Torrance at RG? Bates is the backup center. Can anyone tell me how he has looked this preseason? Can Anderson play Center as well? I agree 10 O lineman seems like a lot. But Anderson looked good against Chicago. Is Ifedi better then Spencer Brown? If so, get him in at starting RT.

What was his years with the Bills? Was he on the last Super Bowl team and then through the 90's? I don't remember that well. Know he certainly wasn't as good as Will Wolford. Who was an excellent O lineman/O Tackle. But I think overall better then Dion Dawkins.

That's a great tutorial on things Logic. However, that does not change the fact that we really do not want Quessenberry on the field. He is not a good football player. He is not even a mediocre NFL lineman. He is pretty bad. Tough guy, playing on the bad ankle last year. But just not a very good player. Can anyone who knows a lot about offensive line play from a technical standpoint explain why there are so few good offensive tackles in today's NFL? It seems there were a lot more decent to good ones back in the 70's, 80's, 90's and earlier 2000's. I never loved John Fina. Thought he was decent but not great. But by today's standards the guy was a really good player.

Keith Ellison would be the biggest LB on the roster if he was still playing today. LOL As for Dodson. Just cut his ass. Guy is as slow as a dead horse. I can not imagine he would start ahead of my boy Baylen Spector. I really believe at a lot of positions the Bills have decided long ago who is going to start and make the roster. They have "their" guys. And the rest are just camp fodder. Doesn't matter how they play in training camp or the preseason. Exhibit # 1 is Isiah Hudgins. And where is their boy Kumerow these days? I am surprised the Bills don't have him in the top 4 WR's as much as they loved him on the roster.

Their O line is terrible. Hasn't been good since Kevin Mawae and Nick Mangold retired. Dwayne Brown is like 57 playing LT. He was overrated when he was young. And now just plain sucks. And so does the fat boy Kelvin Beachum.

Jim can coach. Go Blue!! John on the other hand is a whiner and overrated. Jack was the patriarch who coached I believe at Western Kentucky years ago (Maybe Western Michigan) An old school football family for sure.

Makes a lot of sense. We have a lot of good players. They may not feel that the coaching staff is good enough relative to the roster we have. So they are tuning the coaching staff out. There is a big difference between taking a bad team, and making it competitive like the Lions did last year. And making a good team a championship team. McDermott has not done that yet. And the guys who know him best, his players, may not see that greatness in him leading them to the promised land. We will see soon enough as the season unfolds. If Josh Allen plays well, we will have a chance. If Josh Allen plays spectacular week in and week out especially late in the season and into the playoffs we will be playing for the Lombardi.

That's good to know. Maybe he is a keeper who will keep getting better. I will try and watch what he does when I watch the Steelers replay and next weeks game against the Bears.

Can Van Demark play LT? Because seriously Dawkins is just flat out awful at this point. His get off is nonexistent. Brown may have some upside, its really hard to tell because he always seems nicked up. And is a penalty machine. But Dawkins gets beat on a regular basis. And is also a penalty machine. We have a serious problem at OT with the season only 3 weeks away. Is John Fina still vertical and have a little bend in his 54 year old body? The guy was better then anyone who has played tackle for us in the McBeane era. Taylor Lewan is just a psychotic version of Spencer Brown. His best football was at my school Michigan. Can we move Bates to RT?

We have played one preseason game in 2023 so far. So maybe wait a little while before getting too excited about our draft class. I thought our second and third string WR's looked real good. Patmon Shavers Johnson and Ateman were making plays all over the field. As did our backup RB's. Thought the run blocking was good. OT play is always questionable. (biggest potential weakness on the team) D Line looked really dominant. Real good to see. We have a good team. The Colts don't.

That was something watching Campbell do the up downs on the first show. I think he got to about 37 when his wrist was about to give out. He is a character. And a solid coach. If they can find some defense, the Lions will be in the mix this year in the NFC. Should be an interesting opening nite game in KC.

But if she is HOT, its all good. LOL

Show has gone on way too long. Nothing riveting there. Watching Aaron Rodgers and Zach Wilson throwing footballs in shorts. Meh. Saleh wants to be one of the guys. Not a lot of intensity in today's NFL. Show me some fights between O line and D line. Maybe some Oklahoma drills. It was fun watching the Jets get whupped in the second half of the HOF game by the Browns though. We will own them come September 11th.

That's stupid. He certainly was before injuring his knee last year. Maybe not Bruce Smith good. But still very good.

Good analysis SC. You are usually very sharp with your football opinions and discussion. Edmunds had one good season. He is athletic but not intuitive. The game is just not second nature for him. And he certainly was not worth to us what the Bears were willing to pay him. Football is still won in the trenches. With a much improved D Line, one of the guys competing to be the starting MLB, should be able to develop into a solid player. LB's just don't dominate today's game. So a guy like Edmunds is only worth so much money. Interesting to see what he does in Chicago. I don't like the Bills drafting Bernard and then Williams in the 3rd round. Not sure what they are watching when these guys don't seem to be able to compete for playing time. (I personally hope Baylen Spector is our starter. I think he has the most upside and understands the game. Kind of like Benford in the secondary. Although I am an Elam fan as well.) I think the O line has to be much better then last year. We won't go far unless they play reasonably well. RT scares me. The reports on Spencer Brown do not sound encouraging. And Dawkins needs to up his game too. Hopefully Shell can compete for some PT at tackle. Kincaid will be a force. And I like all 3 of our RB's. They all are solid. And when Josh is on, there is noone better in the NFL at QB. I think we will be plenty prepared and fired up to lay a beatdown on the Jets come opening night. A big win will set the tempo for the season, and send a message to the league that we are still a team to be taken very seriously. And the team to beat in the AFC East.

Zeke was very good. But not ridiculous. And Jacobs was excellent last year. We definitely need a running game. And I think w Cook Harris and Murray we are solid. Combined w Josh's bigtime runs, we should be fine.

Very good analysis of what likely happened unfortunately to Hines.

Good point about Derrick Henry. He was a beast a few years back. And his O line was a very good run blocking line. And Jonathan Taylor is special as well. (We sure had trouble stropping him a couple years ago.) But the modern NFL seems to be a pass first league. Interesting how things have evolved. I have followed football religiously since the mid 70's as a youngster. Both college and pro. And the game was so different back in the 70's. I have watched old Michigan replay games (my alma mater) on the Big 10 Network with my older son who is a young adult, who played college football, and he can not believe how grinding the games were in the 70's and 80's. (a lot more physical too) But at the time the games seemed very exciting. I guess its all relative to what we are used to in a given era. I am just excited that another football season is almost upon us. Go Bill!! Go Blue!!

I own Jet skis down in Fort Lauderdale. Ride them in the ocean and the intercoastal. Its not hard to ride them safely. It feels fast going 30-35mph. No need to be crazy on them.

Absolutely no reason to tie up big money in any RB in today's NFL. Murray and Harris along with Cook will be just fine. Isn't Ezekiel Elliott still unsigned? I think the Cowboys learned their lesson on giving a RB a big second contract.

Morse Murray and Hines are all good NFL players. You don't cut good players. You find a way to keep them. I like Morse more then a lot of people I guess. He is tough, a leader and an above average Center. If he can keep playing at a reasonably high level, I would extend him for another couple more years so he can finish his career as a Bill. No reason he can't play til he is 34 or 35. The guy isn't an All Pro. But he is super solid.

You can spin your narrative any way you like. Every NFL QB has to be able to throw the ball down the field into tight windows with anticipation. The great ones just do it better then the rest. Does that mean they won lots of Super Bowls? Not necessarily. Football is a team game. You need a very good team around you to win Super Bowls. Look at Eli Manning. An above average QB at best, who won two Super Bowls. And John Elway NEVER was a dink and dunk check down QB. He won two Super Bowls because he had an amazing O line with an elite RB in Terrell Davis at the end of his career. You had better go watch film of Peyton Manning my friend. He was always throwing down the field to Marvin Harrison Reggie Wayne and Dallas Clark.

There is tragedy every day in the world. Always has been. Always will. Doesn't make it easier to take. But that is how life revolves unfortunately. I remember Mallett at my school Michigan in the 2000's. The boy had some moxie. Too bad he never became a big timer. RIP!!

I don't think you ever want to let the defense dictate what type of offense you want to run. Sure there are times you want to throw in the flats or underneath coverage depending on where you are on the field in certain down and distances, and where you are in the game from a clock standpoint. But the great QB's are not dink and dunk checkdown artists. I will never agree with that assessment. And Josh Allen will never be that. Nor should he be. That's like when people have a tremendous sports car and are afraid to drive it over 55 miles per hour. Just a waste of a special machine.

I haven't missed a Bills game since the season finale in 1994 when we already eliminated from playoffs in the first year after our Super Bowl run. I am not one who agrees with the theme that Josh Allen needs to change his style. With a better O line he will be unstoppable. As for you, you seem a little high strung. Save it for when someone really tries to bash you. LOL