Fingon

Of course i've seen him play, who hasn't? His arm may be strong, but he is a terrible passer. You cannot debate that. Most scouts don't even project him as a QB in the NFL.

show me the weather conditions and the stat lines please.

Why would anyone spend a 1st day pick on Tebow? You can get a better passer out of a UDFA. Tebow's only asset is his running ability.

I can't remember a bad weather game where Trent played bad and the other QB did well.

This is a joke, right?

The ones who want brain damage do.

Maybe in the 6th or 7th round.... and only if we are planning on running the wildcat.

Britain is hilarious sometimes.... http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=97127

ESPN: Biggest asset is his first-step quickness. He explodes off the ball. Shows consistent ability to get the OT off-balance wide and then quickly redirects back inside. Displays a fluid spin move and also some power in his bull rush. Not coached very well as a pass rusher, though. Poor hand usage. Needs to refine pass rush moves and do a better job of protecting his lower body. Bills Scout: Here's what Bills scout Shawn Heinlen had to say this week about Florida State defensive end Everette Brown, who is one of the top four pass rushers available in the NFL Draft. Said Heinlen: “Everette is an extreme athlete for the position, explosive off the edge, a little undersized obviously. In the scheme at Florida State, they do a lot of upfield rush with him so he’s got to work on counter moves and those kind of things. So he’s still real raw at it. But he has that edge pass rush that everyone’s looking for. He’s very attractive to 3-4 teams because he is athletic enough to think he could play that outside linebacker spot. It’s just going to depend on projecting forward how big is he going to get because he’s an underclassman coming out early. He’s still got some physical development coming as he gets older. So you kind of have to project how heavy is he going to get to be that stout run defender also as you move forward the next couple years. But he gives you that edge pass rush from Day One." "He doesn’t use his hands real effectively at this point because he’s able to get away with not having to at that level. Because he’s so quick off the edge and he bends the corner so well, he uses his lack of height to his advantage, where he can dip the corner and get underneath that offensive tackle’s shoulder. They don’t get their hands on him real well. They basically whiff. He’s going to work on that obviously at this level because the tackles are going to be that much better. But because he is such an athlete off the edge, it gives him the advantage as he learns and progresses going forward.” I know, i know... bringing the opinions of actual scouts to this discussion is so inappropriate.

My evaluation is not on where Brown was drafted, but why he was drafted there. The answer is inferior talent. Almost everyone had Brown slipping at least to the late first round. This is because his overall prospect rating is not as high as was once thought. He struggled against good competition in the post season. He has shown a tremendous amount of negatives, and you can call my analysis of Brown ridiculous, but it is backed up by the opinions of a plethora of scouts. I'm not saying he wasn't good value at 42, but he is nowhere near Maybin. The panthers have motives, outside of talent, for drafting Brown, these are the fact that his contract pales in comparison to Julius Pepper's asking price. They also know that he can sit on the bench and learn for a year, which is something the Bills don't have the luxury of doing. He may end up being a good player, but there is no denying that his talent is nowhere near the other DEs taken, and I'm almost certain that the Panthers would have loved to get their hands on some of the more highly rated DEs. Then again, you could still call everything I've said ridiculous, because it's not like there are differing opinions among the NFL teams. My view on Brown is backed up by 30ish teams, and because the Panthers took him at 43 does not mean he will be a good player.

It comes back to "I trust the Panthers evaluation of him more than yours." because you cannot refute his negatives. The Panthers drafted him at 42 because they know Peppers is gone they desperately need a DE, and he was the only good one left on the board. Why do you even post if all you are going to do is parrot the "a good team drafted him so you must be wrong, lolz." line? You were partly right about the 3-4 comment, but he does not project as a great 4-3 DE either.

My opinion comes from hearing/reading the opinions of a great many scouts, and watching tape on him. There is a reason 30+ teams passed on him. The Panthers drafted him because they desperately needed a DE, and he was the best on the board at 42, not because they think he will be a great DE.

He fell because his potential isn't near any of the other DE prospects. He has good technique, but he has suspect athleticism, is short, has average arm length, and his first step is nowhere near Maybin's. You can teach pass rushing technique, but you can't teach freakish athleticism. The Panthers drafted him because they need leverage against Peppers, and he may be served better by sitting on the bench for a year or two.

Then you know nothing about Everette Brown. There are some very, very good reasons as to why he dropped.

Not really. He doesn't use his hands well, and tends to just blow right by tackles because they can't get their hands on him. That's right from a Bills scout's mouth.

You are under the assumption that Everette Brown would even start. There is a reason Maybin was a top 10 prospect, and Brown slipped to the 2nd round. In fact, Brown's technique is doo-doo, and he relies on his speed to get by tackles (which is no where near as good as Maybin's). Maybin is essentially a much better version of Brown. Brown is short, and has average arm length... while Maybin is tall with very long arms.

You mean Kelsay and G. Wilson?

NYS government is a joke, and anyone who thinks it can save anything... well... i have a bridge to sell you in Kansas.

Hardy will be ready for training camp.

No way the Buffalo News get shuttered. They have some of the highest penetration in the nation.

The only thing that matters is if Trent develops further. If he does, we will make the playoffs.

Yes, because we can magically acquire Julius Peppers, then make those player's salaries disappear.

And they say black people liking fried chicken is a racist stereotype?

scroll down the first page.

He won't get a long term deal, from any team, so that isn't a concern. He makes around $4 million a year.