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Well, it doesn't sound like he was in favor of it. Just like he wasn't in favor of drafting Sanders. Haslem makes decisions on his own.

Wow. Stefanski wasn't consulted and said that the "Joe trade" took him by surprise. [Yakov Smirnoff voice] What a franchise [/Yakov Smirnoff voice]. https://www.si.com/nfl/browns-kevin-stefanski-shedeur-sanders-will-back-up-dillon-gabriel

Or they demanded that Russ allow Skyline to sell a "Dangeruss Spicy 3-Way," and Cierra said no.

Our Strategy was to take away Maye's #1 option in Hunter Henry and stop the run. They did that pretty well. Unfortunately, that opened things up for Diggs. As a fan, that was the worst possible outcome.

This times 1000. It's like on hockey boards when a great player like Austin Matthews scores an amazing goal, and everyone analyzes the Sabres' defense to find out who missed their assignment. Sometimes the other guys make great plays.

I've watched that play over and over. The only open throwing lane was to Shakir. Both the OL and DL was between Josh and Keon. He probably couldn't even see him. What he should have done was to either: Throw the ball low and away so only Shakir could make a play on it (Another poster suggest this option, so I can't take credit here) Rush through the lane and pick up a yard or two Roll out and throw it away. Throwing that ball where he did and allowing a CB to jump the route is Josh Allen pre-2024 stuff. There was more of that in this game that I would like to see ever again.

Yeah, but I remember it, and in my memory they scored 50 points a game and never lost. Every play was a TD on a crossing route to Andre Reed. I was also young and didn't have a drinking problem. So, take us back to 1991 so I can get a mulligan on all the bad decisions I made in my life. Damn you Joe Brady! This message board for the past 3.5 days has been an exercise in how many ways people can start "fire the coach and GM" threads. People have been pretty creative.

I agree with this 99%, because the Bills don't really play a "soft zone" very often anymore. They play a lot of zone, but almost every NFL team does that. But contrary to TBD rage posts, the Tampa-2 left Buffalo with Leslie Frazier. Any look at the All-22 will tell you that. In fact, they didn't play cover-2 on the play that the OP rages about. But they did play cover-2 two plays later and let Maye end the game with an easy pass for 19. But the only way to know this is to watch the overhead views, but most people refuse to pay $15 a month to see what actually happens in games. Lets put some data to this. Like everything sports these days, there is data. There is not a single team in the NFL who plays more man than zone, but the Browns are close to 50/50. I think I might start a thread with this table so that people can stop acting like the Bills are the only team that plays a zone defense. But in the meantime, here ya go: https://www.sharpfootballanalysis.com/stats-nfl/nfl-coverage-schemes/

The Bills were moving the ball with ease on their first drive. That stupid fumble killed what felt like a TD. If the Bills went up 7-0 in the first quarter, that game would have played entirely differently.

If you want to get mad about a play, get mad about the play two plays later. 2-9 from the NE 42 with 1:25 left. Bills come out in a cover 2 zone, and the Pats get a 19-yard completion to Boutte, who got into a space in the zone. That was ballgame. Looking at it again, it felt like they were conceding the FG after the play to Diggs. Big mistake. Well yeah. It’s clear that the Bills win the game without the turnovers and drive-killing pre-snap penalties in the first half. But they did misplay the end game situation.

And we more or less took him away. All the important plays were made by Diggs. That’s one reason the loss hurts so bad. But to your point. we don’t have a WR or TE on the roster that deserves 90-100% of offensive snaps. In fact, we haven’t had one ever that I can remember. Just once I want to know what it’s like to have a player like Ja’Marr Chase on the Bills, but that won’t happen until we get a coach and QB that can handle a huge diva in the locker room.

How does this post with data only have a little bit of discussion, while the same post made with no data and more anger have a raging discussion going right below it?

This loss is bringing up some serious feelings because of who it was to. Bills fans have been waiting for a return to the mean for 6 years, and the narrative of “the Pats are back” all over the NFL media this week just confirms our worst fears. Hence the overreaction.

You laugh, but there are Rex Ryan and Doug Whaley truthers on this very message board.

They had that already. Contrary to TBD consensus, the Tampa 2/soft zone was a Leslie Frazier thing and went out the door with him. And there have been major changes this year from last, with the Bills playing a lot more man coverage. The results may look the same, but the scheme is different.

That sound you hear is all of TBD searching for info on these players so that they can figure out some way to blame Beane for not getting both.

Kyle Hamilton must be really hurt or they’re not happy with the rookie. That’s two safeties in one day.

But you don't see those guys because they are on practice squads. They usually don't see the field much, even if they get called up. The guys that we keep cycling through here are end of the roster players. None of these guys even played on Sunday. You know who did play? Rookie Dione Walker (started and got 60% of defensive snaps) and Zion Logue and Phidarian Mathis, two practice squad players that the Bills had no prior connection to. That doesn't fit the narrative of this thread at all.

It's a response to wanting something very much over which we have no control. And then when the people who do have control make decisions that we don't agree with, the anger boils over because we have no way to impact the decisions and/or the outcomes.

What's more funny is that Mike Brown watched Flacco throw 2 picks against his sorry defense in week 1. He had front-row seats for that, and still decided to hitch his franchise to that wagon just because he was basically free.

You guys are just angsty because the Bills lost a game that has dug up a lot of old feelings of helplessness. This loss feels like the end of an era if you lean into the BBFS. But you're lighting torches and busting out the pitchforks over end of the roster moves. I'm not saying that it's wrong to question these moves, but the level of anger is a bit too high for minimal roster moves. Wanna get mad at something? The narrative that gets pushed around here that is actually true is that our WRs cannot separate. It's really obvious from the all-22. If you want to be mad about something, be mad about that. Not about a backup safety and a PS LB. FWIW, I think Milano will be put in IR very soon. That's why this was done. I would have rather had Josey Jewell too, but they did what they did. Now, go get a WR who can get open.

It's a bizarre move, to say the least. It has Mike Brown's fingerprints all over it.

So then I'm even more sure he'll play after the bye 😎

On the Bills' 53-man roster.

They let Mahomes bully them into picking up a OPI flag on their first TD and then missed an OBVIOUS DPI on an INT that gifted the Chiefs another TD.