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The local pittsburgh sports talk has trubisky on their radar, it makes sense if they can get him under the cap. What about carolina? Didn't he go to school there? They seem to have a need and if you need a qb to play next year it doesn't seem like one of the rookies will get it done.

Urban Meyer is available. He might spend long weekends in Columbus once in a while, but will mostly be focused on football.

I just realized Schoen/Daboll must have sent Fromm to be his qb of the future. 4d chess!

This is an article from the 30th by the steelers version of bills wire. https://steelerswire.usatoday.com/2022/01/30/steelers-broncos-nfl-mike-munchak/ Steelers fans want him back, haven't seen anything from the normal reporters about it yet. The Steelers do have an opening. From what I observed, he made a big difference in the olines performance. I don't know the details of whether Munchak specializes in what we are going to do or if Dorsey has had any professional contact with him.

Do you have a link for the declined contract? A quick search is not coming up with anything for me. As far as whether the Bills wanted these guys or vice versa, really I look at it just like the players about to be free agents. Take Wallace for example, Beane says to the effect "we'll sign him if he really wants to be here". Who wants who in this case? The Bills want to pay Levi the value they have for him, Levi might (and probably does) have a different higher value that he is looking for. If for example the Bills thought Wallace was better than Tre or they really saw his skills as irreplaceable they'd find a way to sign him. I'm not trying to suggest that anything dramatic is going on here, that either one of these guys suck or whatever, I think it's just a case that it's time for a breakup; they both are not getting what they need from the relationship so it's time to go their separate ways. As far as what Flores has relayed through his lawyer and this suit, as far as I'm concerned he's in the victim zone so I tend to believe what he says a little bit more than folks not falling on a sword here. He is trying to shine a light on what's going on and I'm actually assuming there was a lot of info that is not included.

I am not saying I know anything, the talking points for me are: Bobby Johnson leaves for a lateral position - the Bills didn't want him. It is suggested Daboll would be available for a lateral move - the Bills didn't want him. I am not saying there is animosity driving this, just amounts to an agreement to go their separate ways. If you and your boss are at odds about business decisions it's time for you to go it alone. Beane mentioned in his press conference that he and McDermott had a plan to handle losses on the personnel side, they knew who the group they didn't want to lose and the group they were ok losing. Schoen is a big part of a group of men that spent large amounts of time together, so I'm making the leap that if there was strife in the office he knew about it. I have to assume Schoen approached Daboll and said hey, if I go I want you with me. As part of the GM interview Schoen needs to lay out a plan for his new franchise, acquisition of coaches, players, staff. He may have mentioned during the interview his thoughts on Daboll and what position he would be able to fill, which then was passed around the NYG front office. Normally these types of conversations don't make it out of the building so there probably wasn't a thought to muzzle something like Daboll will be your OC if you get the head coaching job when discussing with Flores. Look at what happened to Flores in Miami; why was he let go - he won too many games. In the end he went against the wished of his boss. If Flores didn't have the stones to bring all that happened to the public you would never know what happened. Signs like playing Fitz for part of the games to try and win and Gailey leaving after one year point to some internal strife like the coach is trying to balance different goals (development vs winning) which he shouldn't have to be doing if everyone in the front office is pulling in the same direction. Heck, Culley was cut because he didn't share the long term goals of the club. What does that mean? Seems to me he won too many games too. I would love to hear what the GM in his ear was telling Culley to do, probably trying to get him to lose games. Take the Doug Marrone/Whaley incident a few years back where they were yelling at each other. Do you think that was not a factor in Marrone leaving? Or that was one of a list of issues Marrone had when he left? As far as I'm concerned, there is certainly smoke about, so yes there are some ideas. There may not be proof but there are certainly some dots to connect. Really some butting of heads is expected and it's not all bad. Seems to me like both McD and Daboll are ready and willing to move on and that's what's happening. I'm sure they will be gracious in public about it and carefully choose their words when they talk about it.

Given enough success, yes. While he threw the actions of some of the owners under a bus, if I believed that it was justified, then maybe I would look at that as a positive? Especially if I was trying to do things the right way. Or if I just wanted to piss the other owners off (a la Al Davis). While I understand this is hearsay, I'm going to suggest that Schoen seems to be the likely candidate to provide that info.

Disagree that he can't recover from it. He can go to the SWAC, recruit the heck out of kids and make that conference one of the best in the country. The only thing they need is some rich alumni (or equivalent interested folks) to provide some under the table benefits for the kids to compete with the current larger schools in the country.

Sometimes it's just time to say goodbye. If Daboll had that much friction with the decision making of his head coach, then it is time to see if he can do better.

I think the Pittsburgh Steelers will strongly consider an ILB also. They to have gone to more of a 4-3 lately, they don't have that one big NT anymore to play the 3-4. When they're in the nickel the lb's don't cover well and they're not great against the run. Bush has been a disappointment, Schobert was brought in via trade (they needed someone) then got hurt and Spillane is barely replacement level. If there's a guy that has some size, can play the run ok and cover ok they may pull the trigger on him.

While this could be true, over the years I've seen quite a few coaches leave Pittsburgh for reasons other than they've been fired. Later contradictory information comes out or the coach will "unretire".

I guess everyone's image of our front office sitting around holding hands and signing "kumbaya" has been blown.

There will be room in the SWAC.

Memories of Buddy Nix right there

I don't know how BB* "thinking" they are going to hire Daboll has anything to do with the perceived quality of Flores' interview. Seems like the texts BB* was reading will get subpoenaed. Does Schoen have any contacts in common with BB*?

I assume it was Watson

I don't know if we're going to be the destination for the roster moves because of the cost, if we can get to a cheaper price on these guys then ok. I'm thinking the value of having the Schoen relationship will come during the draft, where hopefully we can move around the board a little easier.

He knows Nate Hackett....Nate needs people.....

Let's get the band back together - Chan "the man" Gailey as OC and Fitz as backup qb. Then all we'll have to draft is a waterbug rb. Boom! Super Bowl.

Bang

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That was a nice shot on hill

So you think the defensive mvp would have no effect for the defense? Even someone like von Miller or Ingram could replace guys on the roster and we would be better.

After last year Beane said we need more pass rush. So he went out and drafted a de that hadn't played in a year and a guy that didn't look like he was quick enough to make a difference right away. We got some pressure on Mahomes but didn't get enough. That's really on Beane. I think DL needs addressed via FA with some type of short term impact guy, either outside (preferable) and/or inside. As has been said about every great qb, you have to be able to get him on the ground rushing 4 in order to beat him. We were not able to get patpat on the ground last week when we needed to.