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I agree with you on that. But personally, I'd take 80% of Rogers vs. 95% of Newton any day. It will define their careers here, for sure....

I think he's thinking of his legacy already. "That video will be shown in Canton one day" kind of thinking. He's got a big ego, for sure, and is going to be fired up to prove it...

So why settle for the next Newton, when a better option might have been to get the next Rogers (ie, a guy who's actually won the damn thing)? That will be the endless debate from here on out...

LOL. You're right...

Allen seems too much like Tannehill too me. I doubt they would have wanted to go down that road with the sequel...

Rosen: Passing Year School Conf Class Pos G Cmp Att Pct Yds Y/A AY/A TD Int Rate Career UCLA 712 1170 60.9 9340 8.0 8.0 59 26 140.1 *2015 UCLA Pac-12 FR QB 13 292 487 60.0 3669 7.5 7.5 23 11 134.3 2016 UCLA Pac-12 SO QB 6 137 231 59.3 1915 8.3 8.2 10 5 138.9 *2017 UCLA Pac-12 JR QB 11 283 452 62.6 3756 8.3 8.5 26 10 147.0 Rogers: Passing Year School Conf Class Pos G Cmp Att Pct Yds Y/A AY/A TD Int Rate Career California 424 665 63.8 5469 8.2 8.6 43 13 150.3 *2003 California Pac-10 SO QB 13 215 349 61.6 2903 8.3 8.8 19 5 146.6 *2004 California Pac-10 JR QB 12 209 316 66.1 2566 8.1 8.5 24 8 154.3

He's not the runner Cam is, so I think it's a hazy comparison. Although it seems like McBeane sees it that way. The thing with the Carolina offense is that it's dyametrically opposed to the the Erhard/Perkins-style Daboll was groomed in. If they were going to go Newton-like, why bring in Daboll?

This was a problem for me as well. And I'll have to think about how that experiece is a good training ground for reading NFL defenses. Half his plays were break down scrambles. I saw very little timing/scheme, just a lot of "hair on fire" throw it and hope. I loved Rosen because a saw bits and pieces of Brady and Rogers in his game. Looking off the safeties, using pump fakes, throwing guys open, putting the ball in the perfect place where only the WR can get it. That's the NFL game. Throwing 100mph fastballs on checkdowns, thinking a cross body, off balance throw will work against NFL dbs, and running around like a chicken--not so much...

SI/MMQB: https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/04/26/nfl-draft-2018-first-round-grades-analysis Allen C+ Edmunds B+

These analyses always make me shake my head. It's like saying LeBron would make a great jockey if the damn horses were bigger. Well, they're not, so don't try and make him a jockey...

That's one of the kicknames his team gave him as well...

And it seems like a very nice, humble and tight group as well. He'll be a great Bill. OT: Would he be the youngest guy ever drafted by the team? I can't ever remember a teenager (I know, he'll be 20 when TC opens)??

LOL. So our d-bag saying something is OK, but their d-bag saying the same thing is bad? Got ya...

No. But a lot of people are calling Rosen a d-bag for saying it. Here's what Thurman said after he was passed over: http://www.buffalobills.com/news/article-3/Bills-All-Time-draft-memories-Thurman-Thomas/bd6f13c7-bbf9-4754-8091-37dc4fbfa441 “I was happy just to get it over with,” he said. “I was really happy, but I was still a little disappointed. After talking to ESPN, they left and that’s when my family and my teammate Hart Lee Dykes and some of my other teammates came over to congratulate me. My friends and family knew that while I was happy, I was also a little ticked off about it too. And like coach Jones used to tell me, ‘You’re the one guy people don’t want to tick off on the football field.’” When everyone had cleared out of his apartment except his parents his mother spoke some prophetic words. “My mom said the same thing that I did,” Thomas recalled. “She said it first. Her words to me were, ‘Baby don’t worry about it. You’re going to prove everybody wrong.’ That stuck with me the day I got drafted, and that process started in my mind right after ESPN left.” Thomas made a promise to himself that day that all the teams that passed on him were going to pay for not picking him. He was determined to show the entire league that he could be a difference maker, and had a special way of getting himself motivated for each game come his rookie season of 1988.

Didn't Thurman say the same thing??

Cleveland's a tough play to play in the elements as well. How come you have to be King Kong to play in Buffalo but Pappa Smurf can play in Cleveland?

"He is Buffalo." G-damit. I'm getting so tired of outsiders (the media, and apparently, FO transplants) saying a certain kind of player has to be picked to fit in to Buffalo. Why can't we just pick the best players, period. And forget all this "He's Buffalo" sterotyping....

Go away...

Your bias is showing. Rosen's comments were nothing more than a competitive guy with a chip on his shoulder, saying let's prove it on the field. Meanwhile, we get Byron Leftwich Jr.

Yep. They overpaid by the equivalent of an extra 2nd according to the trade value chart...

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LOL! Browns fans reaction....

Biggest playoff game the Bills have been in since the SB years. Go Bills!!...

Nuts. LaCanCan is always wrong...