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i think he's hurt because he looks just slow out there. also, our o scheme is junior mints cheeks. the Ds know what we are doing based on our line up and our people, it's pure disadvantage football. and allen has turned into a pumpkin. the last two weeks were the worst he's played since his rookie year. the oc not taking that into account and trying to set up quicker hitting plays and stuff to the TEs and RBs is a sin and i will not forgive it.

TB was great last season, but we might be over rating our guys saying tb and MM are the best duo in the nfl. top 5-10 when healthy tho i think is totally fair. i think williams is coming along nicely, and i wonder if we could have a solid D with 3 LBs on the field when teams go with big lineups (would that have stopped the opening run by henry for a TD?). part of why we might be overrating out starters is because of how absolutely trash the back ups are. dodson was solid for us as a back up last season, specter is barely serviceable, and although he's a nickel corner, cam lewis plays basically linebacker on many occasions when he has to come off of coverage and blow up a screen or make a tackle, and he's awful. seeing a quality nfl starter lined up w those scrubs, and with wet behind the ears bishop (who i still have hope for) and literal PR roster spot Hamlin really shows you how low the floor on this team is when hurt. sheesh!

Josh is the goat imo, but he has flaws. To some extent (not sure how much) the flaws are a result made worse by horrible roster design and pitiful offensive coaching. I'll ignore the suger high desperation stuff where he blasts the ball too hot when he had a better read. To me his big issue is he is poor at pre snap reads. He does not see unblocked rushers well, he doesn't understand where the d is forcing him to roll when he does roll, and he does not do the Brady thing of identifying who will be uncovered out the gate and just go to him off of jump. Part of that is because he can be super man and buy time, and extend plays in order to make magic happen. But part of that is simply a weakness in his game. Having a yes man rookie or low experience and no success OC (which is what dabol, Dorsey, and Brady all are) is not a great way to get him out of these habits, which is why a top flight NFL QB in his 7th year still has them. I poop on mcds scheme all the time on d, but he does not have his guys consistently making pre snap errors or free lancing due to a lack of clarity on what they should be doing in a regular basis. I love 17 but if dcs for bmore a d Houston can just look at tape and know how to turn him into a bad below average NFL QB (which is exactly what he has been the past two games) then this is a problem. At first I thought the talent and size on bmore and their great run d just matched up badly with us, but they have the worst pass d in the NFL. Houston isn't great either. This is a coaching and player issue and it's shocking that a team who's won the division 4 years in a row and won the second most games and has the highest points differential let's it come to this.

Is that really true? That's crazy. Allen was off and trash, but how does an NFL offense run the ball effectively during the game but still end up doing so awful? The wr talent is cheeks, but our OC really really sucks right now. Not being able to have any go to plays or the ability to set things up is sub high school level. We had 7 or 8 negative plays, including a few awful attempts at screens (almost all to the left side on first down) and some obvious runs blown up, but 21 incomplete passes all go for 0 yards as well. So we are at 29 or 30 of mid 60 plays that got zero or fewer yards. I know we have less skill talent than last season, but holy cannoli it's not like we are marching out the sick and the crippled here. An NFL OC has to be able to get some production. I remember in 2021/22 a buddy of mine (non bills fan) commenting the dabo offense just looked like Allen on shotgun and a bunch of guys running at trying to get open. We have promoted from within twice since then. The offensive basis for this team has some shocking flaws that have papered over by Josh Allen. Well he's a bit hurt and his magic went away the last two weeks, so now we have the worst performing o in the NFL for two games. I don't know how people can have confidence in our front office given this drop off. We are clearly understood on O and the recipe to beat us is not hard to pull off. Disgusting

i think mcd has as much influence on the gm as any hc in the nfl. also, i think what they prepare for, who the line up, and how they run their o and d are the bigger issues. baltimore has a lot of talent, but their d has been horrible except for vs us. houston has a couple guys, but is not a great d by any means. both of them turned our o into zeroville. josh allen played not good vs balt and really bad vs houston, but it is clear the book is out and people know what to do to stop us. i refuse to believe that a josh allen lead offense should be 3 of 14 or whatever on 3rd down, and fail to score a td from the 9 or better twice in any game, let alone vs houston with who they have.

a one year rental where the raiders eat a bunch of cap is worth a 3rd, possibly a 2nd. if we get him for 2 years and cheap cap wise, then for sure a second, maybe a 2nd and a 4th or something. his health and so on is obv a concern, but a full strength adams doesn't help us vs baltimore (cluster game) but gives us a win over houston, and frankly last season woulda gotten us a win over KC in the playoffs. an actual outside threat changes a lot of things up for us. you make a great point about who we've drafted in the 2nd round. i still think cook is solid to very good, OCT hopefully turns it around, and bishop is just starting and i like his ability set, but these guys are not impact guys nor at high value positions.

knox is a below replacement level TE being paid like a top 5-10 guy. kinkaid had a great rookie year and has fallen off so far this season. there is something very broken with who beane brings in and what the team does with them. toohill getting extensive burn, hines never getting burn after an expensive trade, all these picks and contracts for DL and them being "kept fresh" in big downs. rotating the TEs in and out, and the goofy stuff we do lining up w the WRs and benching cook when he's fresh, it's all a disaster and i think it tips our tendencies horribly.

a loss vs teh jets, especially w the o looking clueless, and i think we have a coach that has lost the locker room.

i assumed they'd so something kind of roll out thing where he can option pitch it to an rb or throw a short one to the te, or keep it and run to the edge. hollis missing the perfect ball (i swear an average wr mighta taken that to the house) just made my heart sink. the holes on this team are killing us, and the front office is not good.

ok, this is a vet player pointing out that the coaches have lost the flipping plot, a soft mutiny of sorts. remember the denver loss last season? pure coaching error. mcd works hard all week and gets his d to play hard, even if his scheme can be awful vs good qbs or power run teams. his game day management is beyond bad. not pulling klien vs kc, keeping cook on the bench, 13 seconds, denver last year, this game. he just is not good on game day, and having him w two zero track record young coordinators isn't a good look either.

so, i woulda liked to have seen them run something w josh having the ball in his hand, an rb around him and a te out in front, make the d chose and at worst he rumbles forward and gets yards. i was shocked there were no runs by allen on that last posession. second, i agree if you run the ball you force the time out, and maybe get a few yards, but what's even more important is that it gives your punter a normal distance to kick, he had a compressed pocked because of how backed up they were. that woulda given us a shot at a deep and angled kick, and their punt returner was stinking all day, so if he doesn't field it perfectly then we force OT on the punt alone, and even if it was it's very low likelyhood that it's in FG range, so they get to run what, maybe 1 or 2 plays with no TOs? it's not being conservative vs aggressive, it's being dump and doing the obviously wrong thing at the wrong time.

josh was trash, the oline was bad, and the wr's are worthless. all of that said, the OC is the biggest problem the last two weeks. the plays where they rush 4, play man w 6, and have a spy just move to the offensive right show us that. we are on easy mode, predictable and easy to stop. cook was doing well, but it's so obvious when we run, and have no screen and very little half back passing game. i might be allen's biggest fan, but if he's forced to drop back, he is terrible at spotting blitz pick up and who can come free. he's got bad habits (the always rolling right for example) and even forced the ball two times in a row that shoulda been picked today. the OC needs to see this and change things up, some pitch outs and designed runs to the qb would have gotten yards today, every time allen scrambled it led to good results (except that one time he threw the "basketball" to the ground, but he was OOB). how did we not try any of that when we had the ball in the red zone after the fumble? this o barely ever tricks anyone. brady is awful, and mcd wasn't good enough to run the d for ried. how can we expect him to beat the man himself?

this team rewards too many locker room guys. dawkins is a good player, but no one is behind him pressuring him. o torrence and brown have been trash in pass pro. having cam lewis, #3, renting aj klien for a guaranteed playoff loss, staying w hyde and poy too long, knox getting that contract, it goes on and on. we just don't ever seem to bring in high ceiling athletes in positions where we have underperforming and over paid vets. keeping spain and letting teller walk. it really seems like the coach's favorites run the roost and they come up short way too much.

This is too painful

Awful

Shoot

Brady is turning into a pumpkin

The drama in this game is nuts

She. And no, she farted. She's a Boston terrier

I was just telling my dog we don't win games where we don't get a turnover

Awful few plays there to start the 4th

Our d gets a stop when there is a penalty of 10 or more vs the o. That's their play

Wow, Samuel to the bench, Coleman to the starting lineup

Samuel is either hurt or the worst player we've signed. What a dud

A TD here and we are back in this game