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Between his reps at WR, and how thin we are there, he may well not get any carries til Jones comes back.

During the game I was thinking the same thing. Yet, Shanny knew the Bills wouldn't match the salary he could get elsewhere.

Bought a new Bills Jacket while in Buffalo during the past week (visiting sisters).

The name Marlon Kerner rings a bell. He was becoming a very good corner until he got hurt. If I recall, he played a fair amount of nickle as well.

It wouldn't have been cheap. That was a clear case of PI. It was more obvious that even the ones Florence was called for and his were obvious to me.

Rockpile, you're a respected poster around here (at least by those who have been around awhile), but Gailey's call on that fatal pick late was for a play that was there. I'd much rather take that shot than not. Stevie had single coverage and had his man beat. A good throw and it's a likely 6..... the flaw was that Fitz threw up a turd.

See "Goats" thread. The loss was squarely on the shoulders of two players, Drayton Florence and Ryan Fitzpatrick. Florence was being toasted badly even before the two stupid PI's. Fitz had two Ints on similar plays where he horribly under threw each pass. Then there was the seies he took the Bills out of FG range with stupid sacks instead of throwing the ball away. Gotta be smarter than that Ryan.....

Neither did Florence. Had he turned his head on the ball, both PI's could have been picks, especially the second one.

I would have to disagree with your number 8 evaluation point. On both plays, Johnson had the step. Both times the ball was horribly under thrown. Both times Stevie had to hit the breaks hard and try to come back thru the DB. The 4th quarter pick with around 4 minutes remaining was obviously hugely damaging but that's a play Fitz has to make a better throw on. The simple truth is that was a scoring type play, single coverage, with Stevie having the step. Fitz simply blew it, not Gailey for calling the play.

Nope, bad logic. The two picks were horribly under thrown balls to Stevie Johnson, in single coverage match up. Both of which Stevie had a step on his man. I guess Stevie didn't emerge last year as our best WR then. Darn, I thought he was pretty good too.

Evans last two years in Buf were pretty pedestrian (save the occasional long ball which his speed made possible), Easley is a complete unknown who showed potential in Preseason but also showed a propensity to drop balls as well. Donald Jones has made a few plays but surely hasn't distinguished himself. I like David Nelson, Stevie Johnson, and Naaman plays well also. Put CJ in the slot or outside, and the deep threat is back. Enough weapons exist, Fitz just needs to make better throws, more consistently.

All QB's make mistakes, some much more than others. Today, Fitz was in the "more than others" group. The play was there, twice, yet twice he threw a miserably under thown ball.

To me. Fitz is more like a 50-50 guy. I was hoping this year he would make huge strides in becoming a 75 plus percent guy. He still may be, but his last performances against the Bengals, Eagles, and today were more pedestrian than upper echelon.

Almost? Hell, they both were equally obvious....bad call and bad non-call.

Exactly..... +1

The more I read the negatives on " the call" to go deep on first late with around 4 min left in the game, the more convinced I am that the call was a correct one. The play was there. Stevie beat his man of the line. All that remained was a professional throw and we got a high scholl lolly pop.

....and in typical Gailey fashion, he's not likely to give up much info on it.

Yes, a case can be made to run the ball there. Yet, on 1st down, that's the prefect time for the play Gailey called. It was simply a horribly soft under thrown ball. That's was on Fitz, not Gailey. I'll take 7 points anytime. Now, if the ball is incomplete, a run or two would have been fine.... If complete, were up 7. the chief goat was Fitz no matter how you slice it. That was a very poorly thrown ball (again).

Ah, to this I agree wholeheartedly...

Are you advocating "moral" victories? I hate when they lose period.......

Gailey isn't conservative by nature. He made the call, Stevie beat his man, but Fitz threw a soft horribly under thrown ball. It that situation it's far better to take the shot, but if you miss, miss long.

Terence McGee played a solid, if unspectacular game, but the Gints clearly made Florence their Target, and it paid off big for them. Good to have McGee back....

Sadly, I have to agree in general, although the play to Johnson was there, Fitz just under threw the ball (again).

Yes...... Davis is poor in space and is very slow.....

Nope... Two bad picks, and his taking us out of FG range were bad, very bad. Then on fourth he threw right into the Defensive line man. Passing lanes Fitz, sometimes ya gotta move or go elsewhere. Fred played well as usual with a couple big plays, but other than Naaman's long run on a short pass for a score, there weren't many other positives for the Bills.... Florence played horribly