Bill from NYC
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8 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:
Absolutely. But some people get a lot of enjoyment, or get to vent, or whatever, by pretending they now what the right thing to do is.
Some just have an opinion, some have blind loyalty. Do you think that it is OK for a fan to want to get rid of McDermott?
You seem to want to keep him and I'm fine with that. We are just Bills fans who view the situation differently.
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9 hours ago, Chaos said:
This poll is intended to record your level of virtue. The bigger the number you pick, the more virtuous you are.What you consider virtue, others might deem it to be blind allegiance but hey, that's what makes the world go around, right?
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Well, I'm sorry, girl, but I can't stay
Feelin' like I do today
There's too much pain and too much sorrow
I guess I'll feel the same tomorrowWell, this could be the last time
This could be the last time
Maybe the last time
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New York City was so damned cold
I had to get out of that town before I got old
California and rock and roll dream
Got too high and we blew our whole scene
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4 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
I have clarified this for you before - Brandon Beane runs the draft. He is in charge of personnel. I have had that confirmed by people who are in the building too. What I do think though is that Sean McDermott is of the two the more powerful personality in the building. It is ultimately his show. If he wanted Beane fired he'd get it. If he wanted to veto a particular draft pick I think he'd have the power to do that. But the reality is that isn't how they operate. He has total faith in Beane to run the personnel side and that is how it works. They collaborate pretty closely and I know McDermott sits in on the meetings where they set their final board prior to the draft. But in terms of running the draft and making the picks it is Brandon's call. If they are close between two players he will ask Sean, he will ask Brian Gaine and Terrence Gray but he ultimately makes the decision. I was told the guy who actually had the most influence on the draft beyond Beane was actually Joe Schoen while he was here not Sean McDermott.
And I think the fact that the Bills drafting patterns so closely reflect the Panthers drafting patterns during the 10 years Beane was in senior front office roles there rather reinforce the view that the draft strategy the Bills execute is Brandon Beane's strategy.
I don't think the Bills have spent enough draft capital on receiver. But Beane grew up in a Panthers organisation that was famous for undervaluing wide receiver in his time there. Four day 1 or 2 picks on the position in 10 drafts in Carolina. Zero in 6 drafts here. This is not a coincidence.
The above blames Beane and excuses McDermott, but at the same time admits that McDermott is the more powerful of the two.
OK then.
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I know nothing about the man but judging by his name he sounds like a great communicator.
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On 2/13/2024 at 5:49 PM, GunnerBill said:
It goes back further. Buffalo and Tampa have both gone since 2017 without drafting a day 1 or 2 wide receiver.
It is ridiculous. And Beane should be held to account for it.
You now believe that Beane has more power than McDermott wrt the draft? When did you change your opinion?
On 2/13/2024 at 6:04 PM, Kaenon said:We did trade a 1st for Diggs though, so we spent a 1st on a WR
Do you think that McDermott did enough to bolster the WR position?
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I know you're out there somewhere
Somewhere you can hear my voice
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18 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said:
Oh the irony
Your deflection is confirmation you don't have an answer
Obviously this discussion is going nowhere. Let me know the next time (if ever) an original thought finds it's way past your filters and into your brain.
Good luck!
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24 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said:
Tell me how it works master Jedi. GM, scouting staff, coaching staff, how does the process work at OBD, I am curious since you are all knowing and have direct knowledge of the inside workings.
You don't need another opinion. Just continue to follow the flock.
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1 hour ago, Thurman#1 said:
Nonsense.
Nonsense that they "traded up for mediocre defensive players". Guys in the last four years we've traded picks for on defense are: Elam, Benford in the 6th, Baylon Spector in the 7th. Those are two very good late picks. Elam sure isn't looking good so far, but that could easily turn around, and they traded a 4th rounder to get that pick. A 4th isn't nothing, but it's not like they gave up a pick on the first two days or something.
When (relatively) healthy at the beginning of the year this defense was excellent.
Nonsense that they neglected to give Josh Allen adequate weapons when they got him Stef Diggs, they used their 1st round pick on a weapon who shows every sign of being a terrific player, and they used a 2nd on Cook last year who was 6th in the league in yards from scrimmage, and not a distant 6th. He was 19 yards away from 4th place overall.These three aren't adequate weapons. They are far better than that.
Could they have used more? Sure. But they had better weapons than the Chiefs.
I don't disagree wrt the late round trades. These were smart moves and things like that would seem to enable McDermott to concentrate on getting better weapons for his GREAT quarterback early in the drafts.
And yes they did trade that pick for Diggs which I applaud, despite the fact that he might have peaked at this point and is a bit wacky (or so it would appear). The Bills are in need of better receivers now. Do you doubt this? It seem to be a common concern of every poster on this board. More wide receivers and less ridiculous trade ups (Trevor Lawrence and Elam) would have given our generational talented QB a better chance to win. Oh, and there were plenty of talented WRs left when he drafted Oliver at #9.
In any event, thank you for the dialogue which I appreciate, and for bringing facts into the discussion.
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2 hours ago, Matt_In_NH said:
I would say having an open mind involves using more sophisticated logic than “no Super Bowl = fire him”. It is not blind faith to use sound reasoning and be objective and critically think vs just make emotional decisions. Did the chiefs give Mahomes adequate weapons? Josh has more. Did McDermott make those trade ups or was it the GM? Mentioning the draft pick trade as a reason to fire McDermott is one of the most unintelligent things I have ever read here which is saying a lot.
That was mentioned as part of his dismal performance, not as the primary reason that he should be fired.
And seriously, if you think that Beane has more say wrt the draft than McDermott, then I suppose this would make you a robotic blind fasith loyalist, not quite capable of an original thought.
Either way, have a great day!
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10 hours ago, WIDE LEFT said:
Then there’s the recent draft where TWO defensive ends were taken in rounds 1 and 2. Huge free agent signing -Miller - defense. And DB Elam with a round one pick. So running backs (to ensure a strong ground game) and multiple picks and signings of defensive assets. A defensive coach’s dream!! But that’s not NFL 2024. Even with all these assets being devoted to defense, it’s been the defense which has repeatedly failed in the playoffs. Stop wasting Allen’s career, give him the weapons he needs and deserves, and let’s go outscore everybody. Step one, keep McD’s role in talent acquisition to a bare minimum. He has earned that
Yes, a pick that he actually traded UP for. And yes, it is clearly evident that McDermott holds the power on draft day and even free agency.
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2 hours ago, GunnerBill said:
A million. People need to grow up.
Did you mean to type "wise up?"
Wanting a football coach fired who gave away Mahomes for a cornerback, traded up for mediocre defensive players (while neglecting to give Josh Allen adequate weapons) and finds numerous ways to lose big games is not a sign of immaturity. It sounds to me more like having an open mind and not being guided by blind loyalty (or in some cases fan hating).
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7 hours ago, The 9 Isles said:
All speculation but an interesting angle if both McDermott and Shanahan leave their respective teams after next season.
I doubt it. That makes a little too much sense.
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4 minutes ago, finn said:
Bills fans are hard on McDermott, Davis, Bass, etc., because they live vicariously through the Bills and they hate feeling like the almost-winners or losers they feel like they (not the Bills, they) might be.
Wow, that IS just a tad harsh! 😀
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That's an easy question.....
Sean McDermott has complete control over free agency and the draft. Beane is more of an administrator than a football man. McDermott is WAY underqualified to be in charge and this is evident by his screwy drafts picks and draft trades.
What McDermott DID excel at was selling Mr. Pegula a bill of goods, telling him about the "process," (Nick Saban was using this term when McDermott was going to his high school prom).
McDermott has a generational talent at QB and responds by not getting him enough weapons and focusing primarily on defense.
He needs to be fired.
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What you find-ah
What you feel now
What you know-ah
To be real
Ooh, your love's for real now
You know that your love is my love
My love is your love
Our love is here to stay
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28 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:
You want Terry to fire his head coach because of a decision seven years ago that the owner ultimately signed off on?
Yes it was probably the worst trade in NFL history but it’s too late to fire someone over it.
Agreed and agreed. They should fire him for other reasons.
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46 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said:
He has one of the top podcasts in the world, he won his 3rd Superbowl, he's going into the hall of fame, he made more money doing a Pfizer commercial than he made with the Chiefs this season, and his future wifey is a billionaire. He can basically do whatever he wants for the rest of his life. I doubt he cares what fans of other teams think of him
I don't doubt you but if the bolded is true, it is a sad reflection upon society. People are dying of cancer by the minute. The money should be spent on research, not funneled out to a steroid crazed douchebag to hawk a product with very mixed results.
And before anybody goes there, I am not anti-vax. I had 3 shots (and of course had covid twice).
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Very good post but the last sentence is debatable. It might however ring true, in that McDermott would have drafted cornerbacks for Mahomes instead of receivers.
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6 hours ago, SinceThe70s said:
An ill-advised moment for him that is utterly meaningless - unless Andy Reid thinks otherwise.
He certainly deserves a VERY hefty fine to prevent this from becoming a trend. I hope that I am wrong but I have a strong hunch that this horse already left the barn with that shove.
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7 hours ago, Einstein said:
I remember when KC traded up in front us to get McDuffie and thinking “man I hope he sucks and the better player falls to us”.
That was a vivid indication of what was to come with McDermott.
What is your level of patience on not advancing to the Super Bowl?
in The Stadium Wall
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Sorry, I did not get that vibe! 👍🏈 👍