Bill from NYC
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1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:
Yes, the trade up for Elam was orchestrated by Beane. But nobody is saying McDermott played no part. The relationship is just not as you portray it. And for some reason despite being told this multiple times you continue to insist on it.
Let me be clear. I respect your football knowledge quite a bit and admire your posts. You also seem like a nice person. That said, just because you say something "multiple times" does not necessarily make what you say factual. If that was the case, everybody could say something again and again and be 100% correct just by virtue of doing so.
We will never agree on this topic, nor is there any real way of finding out the truth. It's all cool.
1 hour ago, FireChans said:I mean even if McD is running the draft/offseason and Beane is a glorified yes man, then his value to the org is effectively zero.
Very confusing why you seem to harp on this as a defense of Beane.
I am not defending Beane at all! I am putting the blame on McDermott for continuing the Bills tradition of too much focus on defensive backs, despite other bigger needs. This started with the trade of the Mahomes pick to the Chiefs and extends all the way to this season, when instead of providing Josh more weapons, he drafted another first round corner.
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58 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
On the former - because that is how it works. Beane isn't a scout but he is the General Manager. He takes the views of his personnel staff, he takes the views of the coaches and he factors all that in to how they build the board and then the selections he makes. Howie Roseman didn't come up the scouting route either. Not all General Managers do. Indeed some of the best modern day GMs don't there is a lot more to it than that.
On trading away the pick used for Mahomes - Sean McDermott takes the blame for that. He ran the 2017 draft. He didn't draft him away for peanuts though. It was pretty much BANG on the Jimmy Johnson chart value and the Bills actually won the trade (to the value of a 4th round pick) by the Rich Hill chart. You can think they could have got more if you want. Maybe they could. But they didn't give it away for peanuts.
Yeah, so I guess that in 2022 when the Bills gave up a 4th round pick to move up two spots for Kaiir Elam, this trade too was orchestrated by Beane. After all, the fact that McDermott was a defensive back in college and a former assistant secondary coach played no part in this glorious trade, or the one which handed the Chiefs Mahomes and numerous Super Bowl wins. He was olly too willing to let Beane, a communications major in college, put his player expertise to work.
Gotcha.
I will however concede the fact that Beane being a communications major does help him at his job. He is able to clearly ask McDermott, "who should we draft," and clearly respond, "yes sir."
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On 6/26/2025 at 10:11 AM, BADOLBILZ said:
Beane himself went from fetching coffee to basically handling anything tech related in Carolina to becoming the GM in Buffalo. He kinda' bypassed the whole road scout thing and might have been the only one in the office who was even using PFF data.
If this is the case (which I certainly do not doubt), why would anyone be willing to believe that he has the final, or even an equal say to McDermott wrt the draft? I really wish I could understand this.
On 6/27/2025 at 10:29 AM, BADOLBILZ said:Yeah @GunnerBill answered that. The Panthers realized after the draft that the Bills had their draft board and that McDermott was using it like his own. Which meant he had a good idea when he needed to move up ahead of them to get those players for he and Beane's operation.
So who takes the blame for trading away Mahomes for peanuts and drafting a corner?
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5 hours ago, Process said:
If sportsbooks want to run ads fine, I just hate how much gambling has become a part of broadcasts. I don't care to hear what parlay Terry Bradshaw has cooked up in the pregame show, or for the announcers to give me the updated live odds throughout the game.
Many, many years ago, Jimmy The Greek (a supposed expert) used to give out picks before NFL games. Seriously, he probably guessed wrong on 75% of his selections. People could have made a ton of money betting against him.
I wonder if there is money to be made betting against Bradshaw and other announcers. If they know who has the best chance to win, I strongly doubt that they would share it with the public and cause the odds to perhaps change.
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When the pain of love surrounds you
And the world may be unkind
I'll put my lovin' arms around you
Take you far from this place and timeBecause you and I've been in love too long
To worry 'bout tomorrow
Here's a place where we both belong
I know you're the only woman that I'm dreamin' of
You're the only woman that I really love -
"Son," she said, "have I got a little story for you
What you thought was your daddy was nothing but a…
While you were sitting home alone at age thirteen
Your real daddy was dyin'
Sorry you didn't see him, but I'm glad we talked"
Oh, I, oh, I'm still alive
Hey, I, oh, I'm still alive
Hey, I, oh, I'm still alive
Hey, oh, oh-oh -
That's an easy one. He would ask Marv Levy what to do, and Marv would tell him to focus on the secondary, running backs, and special teams.
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If you go down to Deep Elem put your money in your shoes
The women in Deep Elem give you the deep elem blues
Oh, sweet mama, your daddy's got them Deep Elem blues
Oh, sweet mama, your daddy's got them Deep Elem blues
Once I knew a preacher, preached the Bible through-and-through
Went down to Deep Elem, now his preachin' days are through
Oh sweet mama, your daddy's got them Deep Elem blues
Oh sweet mama, your daddy's got them Deep Elem blues -
This, along with "Black" by Pearl Jam.
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As those who have seen my posts over the decades, it is well known that right or wrong, I'm not fond of allocating our best draft resources to the secondary. That said, when Jairus Byrd came to town, he lit it up! He was picking off passes one after the other. I thought, "maybe I'm wrong. This guy is great!"
Well, at a tailgate at RWS, I mentioned my views on Byrd to @BADOLBILZ. He told me that Byrd was good but far from great. He said that many of his picks were caused by lucky deflections and not to expect this kind of production. I confess to being just a bit skeptical (if not slightly depressed) lol.
Well, while he was never a bad player imo, he was far from great. His production rapidly fell off and my reluctance to drafting secondary early was fully restored.
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*I heard it was you
Talking 'bout a world where all is free
It just couldn't be
And only a fool would say thatThe man in the street, dragging his feet
Don't wanna hear the bad news
Imagine your face, there is his place
Standing inside his brown shoes*A song written to John Lennon by Donald Fagen
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1) Dion Dawkins
2) Spencer Brown
For decades I watched our QBs get consistently beaten and bloodied while folks such as Levy and Jauron focused on running backs (with no blocking) and the secondary. The OL is the reason that Josh is able to do his job and the team wins football games.
8 hours ago, BillsFooteball said:Tre white now that he’s back! Talent wise favorite is Milano or Spencer brown
Are we sure he will make the team?
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Life, Life
Past the clouds
You don't have to come down
Life, Life
Tell it like it is
You don't have to die before you live -
Well I, married me a wife, she's been trouble all my life
Run me, out in the cold rain and snow
Rain and snow, run me,out in the cold rain and snow
Well she's coming down the stairs, combin' back her yellow hair
And I, ain't goin be treated this ol' way
Well she went up to her room, where she sang her faithful tune
Well I'm, goin where those chilly winds don't blow -
I feel it's time we should make up baby
I feel it's time for us to get back together
And make the best of things, oh, baby, when we're together
Whether or never -
59 minutes ago, nedboy7 said:
I see where this is going. I agree. I would trade 4 first rounders for Burrow to fill this glaring hole.
No way! We need them to draft cornerbacks.
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If you call I'll be right with you
You and I should be together
Take this love I long to give you
I'll be at your side forever
Call me, don't be afraid, you can call me
Maybe it's late, but you call me
Tell me and I'll be around
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With Trubisky as QB for the entire season, the Bills would certainly draft in the top ten, if not top 5.
Jmo.
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Who gets breakfast? Who gets the lunch?
Who gets to be the boss of this bunch?
Who will steer?
Turning
Turning
To see your face alone
I'm hoping there's someone home
Dream
Do you dream
Dreaming
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5 hours ago, chongli said:
Let's wait until all the facts come out. I think there's more to the story. The police and prosecutors initially throw everything at the wall and see what sticks. And the police already let him go after talking to him. He is also tweeting openly every few hours, unlike a man in hiding. Could be self defense...or not. Not trying to minimize this, but something smells fishy.
Good point. All of his priors are probably b.s. as well, no?
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18 hours ago, JP51 said:
Oh to be sure I do not think he should get a pass... but bottom line he is mentally ill imo and needs help... or more people are gonna get hurt.
No doubt that he needs help, but; society needs more help in getting him off the streets and into a jail cell for a long period of time. Bullets don't have maps or brains and some innocent people will be injured or killed if this violent animal is allowed to roam free.
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This is unusual. In most cases, people who commit crimes rarely if ever continue on with criminal behavior.
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I see you, each morning
But you just walk past me
You don't even know that I exist
Goin' out of my head, over you (Out of my head)
Out of my head, over you (Out of my head)
Out of my head, day and night
Night and day and night
Wrong or right -
A true pioneer and genius, Joni Mitchell
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Maxwell Hairston named in civil lawsuit for sexual assault
in The Stadium Wall
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I think that police departments do better investigations than schools. Do ya remember what happened at PennState? I for one would not take a school's word for any criminal investigation, but hey;.....that's just me.