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I bet that if we let JP go, Green Bay will pick him up. And fate would be so kind to that great football city to have history repeat itself .....

I know, I know - just a very tired and dejected post on my part. Really, I am just tired of expending my emotions on a hopeless situation.

You really think JPL is a big reason ? I am not so sure. While I agree that handing the keys to JP full time and expecting no drop off was too optimistic. But I don't think JPL was too big a reason. The other aspects dropped off way to precipitiously for JPL's performance to make a significant difference one way or the other.

{Just catching up with the posts after a few days of travel.} I will like it if this scenario plays out. I believe MM should get another year and this makes changes without doing a full house cleanup. We have to maintain some consistency and if a new GM implies a new coach I do not want that (unless that GM is Ron Wolf :-)). One thing not discussed much is that we also need to find a long term OC. We have had too many in the past few years and that causes instability also.

Might sound juvenile but - I would rather have a runnning game for those 5 yarders and JP consistently throwing long strikes.

I also support keeping MM and canning TD. He has just had 2 years to prove himself with a dismal set of players. He should get another year at least with a talented roster. Also, am not convinced that every GM comes in with the intent of replacing the HC.

While you are at it, can you sue the 9 teams that beat us ? P.S. I voted for TD to be sent off packing.

After living half my life, it is about time I wasted it

If true, I can claim fame by having first asked about this possibility a few weeks back

I concur. As for filling the seats, nothing like a few good FA signings to fill the seats.

I vote in favor of keeping him.

Completely agree ! At this rate, we will let everyone go from this team and start anew.

That is an awful lot of conclusions and a very strong sentiment set up by rumors. Please explain why you think he is a pr*ck (apart from the 'best back in football' comment). Even assuming you have heard him enough to make a judgment of his literary skills, who cares how weak his vocabulary is ? How does anyone know whether he does or does not want to play in Buffalo ? This question is different from whether he wants to play on a team with a losing record.

Kelly, dude, let us both give up. Group think has set in deep and there is no way we can steer this towards a logical argument. EM has the benefit of entitlement.

Saying a few sentences to tell the public is apparently too little for the media and fans. You want him to stay totally silent ?

And I think JP also accepted blame for that play.

What I was implying is that MM has not been given this authority by RW. Also, TD seems to have been cut out of the action (public anyway). So I think blaming MM for creating a 'mess' is incorrect. He was handling it diplomatically and RW decided he had to come in and tell EM whatsup. Finally, how would everyone react if EM's suspension was announced on game day ? MM is as it is being roasted for dragging this issue on !!

Isn' that exactly what he did sans the fine ? And if RW wants to fly in and speak to EM personally, that does not speak of MM's weakness.

I agree with both buftex and Bill from NYC on this one. I posted something similar in an earlier thread but it is apparent the board guys and media are in a EM-love, MM-hate mode. http://www.stadiumwall.com/index.php?showtopic=36401 I have repeatedly asked the question but no one seems to answer it. Why do people here think that MM caused confusion by not handling the situation properly ? Give me some sound logic. All I can see is the media which is incredibly pissed off that MM did not keep them updated regularly. They think it is their right to know about each and every word that is said between the coaches and players. It is the media capitalizing on the generally frustrated sentiment that is arising from poor on-field performance. They need a sensation, stories where there aren't any, superlatives when none are deserved.

TD

I want a reporter to have a finger on the facts not pander to feelings of the fans.

Bravo for what exactly ? For blowing a situation out of proportion ? A simple disciplinary action by a coach suddenly becomes an 'amateurish attempt to felx his muscles' ? What would Jerry rather have - a full season suspension of EM so he can be labelled a great disciplinarian ?

Agree. Our offensive production plummeted after he took himself out. Which directly resulted in a loss. I say MM has every reason to be pissed for that reason alone. If EM wants to be admired as a veteran player, he must be mature and self-less to deserve that tag.

Agree with life not being extremes. But that is not my point - I am not saying that MM is a genius or a total idiot. What I am saying is that he may have a philosophy which he is imparting to his team. Those with the program will stay and play while those that balk will be disciplined or let go. When Bellicheck built the Patriots it was a different mentality of every player playing his role correctly and the team will do fine. It was different at the time and eventually became successful. Parcells has way too many years of experience and he might be the Phil Jackson (LA Lakers) of the NFL (part-coach, part-psychologist). What we do not know yet is what MM's plan is and how successful he will be. Personally, I value hard work over everything else and if MM is striving to get that from his players, I support him fully. We do not know what the long term plan is but I am willing to give him the benefit of doubt and see what happens. he is just in his second year so it will take some time for the results to show. TD on the other hand has had 5 years and has not done much to take this team to the post-season. Lastly, I really fail to understand why the media is ripping MM for handling the EM situation badly. What has MM done wrong ? He first said that he has talked privately to him and then requested a suspension. In the press conference, he stated the bottom line and said the chapter is closed there is nothing more to discuss. He basically told the media the end result without discussing the internal details. And that is fine by me. For all we know, there may be a substance abuse situation here. Only time will tell.