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You ask too much when you ask people to trust you. From my perspective: 1. Your view on HRC as The Good Princess of the North disqualifies you as trustworthy in the political arena. 2. Your decision to actively seek out those with different political views with an eye toward demanding comeuppance and apologies for excersizing their right to vote disqualifies you as trustworthy in the political arena. 3. You seem to be implying that as a federal employee, you've witnessed first hand a number of "boondoggles", likely have written them off as just a byproduct of the federal system you work for and benefit from. For reasons you and you alone know, you see this particular boondoggle as extraordinary, and the particular boondoggle is by most accounts overtly political. Since you have self-identified as a Democrat, and I do not, it makes no sense whatsoever to trust you in this regard. 4. You have mentioned several times the point about "Mexico paying for the wall". This seems to be where you have decided to plant your flag, and it seems an odd place to do so. Those of us who support the Presidents efforts understand the complexity behind the word track used, even as you do not. Additionally, given 250 years of American political theater, it seems a weak place to make your stand. I won't bore you (further) by linking to statements/positions by politicians that were proven false, misleading or hypocritical, some even by your Dems. This alone disqualifies you from being someone I can trust to consider my best interests politically. 5. You have referred to 60+ million people as "lemmings". This statement alone disqualifies you as someone I might ever trust for political advise or discourse. To summarize, you seem to be an insider comfortable with boondoggles and waste so long as you benefit, your opinion is guided by your political ideaology, you feel you have the right to demand folks with different opinions conform to your world view, and that those who do not are of low moral character. You greatly respect a candidate who referred to citizens who disagreed with her politically in that odd sort of Stalin-esque fashion as "deplorable" and "irredeamable". No sir, you cannot be trusted.

You're suggesting the old criss-cross? She's the target, but ends up killing him? That actually sounds like empowerment. Now I don't know what to think .

Oh hell no!

Fall person. Women can be set up, targeted and killed in a random robbery where nothing is taken just like a man can. It's 2018, you knuckle dragging neandrathal.

This is the amazing part to me, a revelation on how you see the world. If you see hrc as the bomb-diggity, above reproach, a humble public servant looking only to serve, I can understand that. There was a time I thought OJ Simpson was an amazing guy. There are likely still people out there who think that, and in some crazy real life version of The Matrix, we all process what we see/hear/experience through our own prism. But, with due respect, the government represents a corporate structure the likes of which the the most power hungry oligarch could only dream of. Unlimited resources. The power to create regulations that are both self-sustaining and lead to growth. A benefit structure designed by itself, that answers to no one but itself, with the power to increase benefits as it sees fit. The power to seize assets, fine individuals and corporations, the right of eminent domain, and the power to imprison those it disagrees with. The power to creare currency, and to manipulate it as they see fit. The offer of virtually cradle to grave entitlements for those in the inner circle. The ultimate franchise fee-- the ability to tax. The power to design and fund it's own security force. And so on. Government is necessary, important, and decent in many ways. However, IBM, General Electric and Colonel $#@@ing Sanders would kill to possess 1/1000th of the power of the govt.

I knew it was beyond you. That was clear to me given the premise of your post, and your impulse to demand accoutability to those not accountable to you. One of the great things I was taught was to recognize and understand that people have limitations. Your limitation is that you think your opinion matters more than it does , and that the only reasonable sequence in the world is that if EiI thinks it, everyone else must surely follow or they were not raised correctly, or that someone failed mighty big. I am greatful that I am not so burdened. Nice talking to you,, and while it's not my business to worry about someone else's business, I thought you did the right thing apologizing to DR.

Someone always sees a dangerous demagogue in that capacity, it's the nature of the business. Nothing here makes you all that special in that regard. You'll be fine. It's a ways out, but unless something drastic happens before 2020 I'll be voting my conscience again.

"Own their mistakes"? What does that mean, and why would you care?

A. I thought maybe I was getting a "••••• off" ?; B. I left that "Doc Brown" thought hanging a bit. I think he's a great poster and read his thoughts when I can. I respect his perspective and his demeanor even when I think hes misguided. I was trying to make a point that Doc B respectfully comes here to a place where many support what Trump (and the Trump supporters range from those who detest Trump as a human being but support some of his positions to those 100% behind Trump). That was a point I clearly botched and in the calm after I wrote it, I'm not sure why I felt I needed to include that. $#@@ing New England games always scramble my brains. I know what's coming, I've seen it live, on the television, in bars, listened on the radio and it always takes me a day to recover. To summarize: Doc good, others bad.

I think you have to consider the mindset of a poster like Doc Brown, and juxtapose it with some of the others that post here. DB seems to come here with a different perspective than most on the Trump side of things (ranging from those who seem to detest him but support the general concepts he stands for to hardcore Trump supporters), offers opinions and provides feedback. Some others come by, take a few shots, dish out a few shots, but post how they feel and move on. Then there are a precious few who must be dealing with some legitimate sad #$$ stuff to enjoy actively seeking this place out, offering literally nothing of value, who get a charge out of sending garbage similar to what you'd hear in a middle school gym, and only then with the requisite numbers of like-minded morons by their side. In that regard, anonymous posting gives them an outlet. Maybe that's not all bad. My guess is that for every visit here, there are multiple visits to unrelated message boards, same tired commentary, same faux incendiary language.

The issue can be summed up by some of the drops/misses/fumbles by Bills receiver, and Edleman rollng over two Bills defenders and staying with the play to score a td. NE makes those plays with regularity ..our guys drop balls that hit them in the hands on a regular basis. And yes, a ball will hit Gronk and be picked off on occasion, or Burkhead will fumble after a run, but it's not at all expected to be the norm. In Buffalo, the Croom fumble represents the type of play we are really, really good at.

You'd normally go with the kid from the Bronx, but she's actually from Yorktown. On the other hand, Ivanaka was born into a wealthy family, and you can"t discount the silver spoon effect in a street fight. Either way, there is something for everyone and this could help to heal this great nation.

You still get to sit on the winners couch, but down near the end with the bad TV angle and the third cousin with the pants pulled way up high.

Schumer provided some very interesting soundbites about the border wall. No wall for Trump, no money for trump wall, you'll never get funding for the trump wall etc etc etc. The problem is people are dying over this issue, and many, many folks support the building of a wall, more still support security at the border in some way, shape or form. Yet old chuck sounded like an arrogant politician playing games with money at the expense of the security of the American people, not to mention those in govt impacted over the $5b. Nothing like a NYC lib on a rant to rally middle Americans at election time.

I used plain language to inquire as to your thoughts, in fact some were words you used yourself. At first you thought it was shitposting, then you didn't, then you answered but now it seems you didn't understand any of it. Maybe in retrospect not answering was your better play. You're all over the page emotionally, so I'll leave you to your deep thinking. I guess this is where I use the Miley Cyrus line...so, uh, you do you, too.

Damn typo. I had to double check as while the other poster may be your afternoon liberal booty call, he has shown the propensity to be a weasle in the past. Yes, I meant that I'm fairness. I am not a doctor. I am a dipschiff. And I'm a dispshit. But, I don't dodge questions, so there is always that.

I'm fairness his doctor is apparently a dipschiff.

First, I thank God you're ok. I was worried because it was your post, you spoke emphatically and with strong opinions then seemed to wander off into the shadows as matters evolved. That would reflect a shallowness rarely seen. I really wanted your feedback and your reply of "TRUMP" leaves me much to comtemplate. Now, the shutdown can be avoided, Schumer can help, and Pelosi looks like she's out of touch. Thanks for taking the time to reply. You've given me much to consider. I always thought it was pretty complicated, but yeah, "TRUMP!" Is pretty deep.

Has anyone seen WhitewalkerinPhilly, or know if he's ok? I asked him a question on his original post on this topic and he hasn't answered. I'm getting worried as he seemed like an honest broker looking for an exchange of ideas. I feel like we can avoid a shutdown now if Sen Schumer can rally his base here. I feel like Nancy Pelosi must have had some misunderstanding of the house and the way it would vote. Whitewalker was suggesting Trump owned the shutdown, and that seemed reasonable just last week. Now, thankfully, calmer heads can prevail.

Life serves upittle ironies. One is while all people are equal, some are more better equal.

"Politicians...near and far, in office and long gone..." includes all. This is not a Democrat or Republican issue. The entirety of the government is built on the understanding that those inside get theirs while those outside live by a different set of rules altogether. It's one giant pork pie, which is why one can work 30 years and leave with guarantees of income and benefits and yet the message for everyone else is "normal retirement age is 67 and on it's way to 70". One set of rules can hardly exist without the other. That certainly does not mean there are not good, hard working and decent people inside, as there are. I just find the leadership to be lacking for about the last 60 years. Someone is always getting rich, this will be no different, and such is life in America. On the other hand, if open borders is the plan, let's get it out there and stop handwringing about it. I'd love for the walls to come down at airports, border crossings, and the Peace Bridge. Btw you never answered and gave credit where credit was due. Mr. 45 shifted the shutdown to Messrs Schumer and Pelosi, yes?

Because politicians near and far, in office and long gone, don"t see it as a national security issue, they see it as a path to enrichment.

Let's give credit where credit is due. Looks like DJT sold his stake in the "impending shutdown" to a guy from Brooklyn named Chuckie, and revealed that his gf Nancy is blissfully unaware about what's happening in House she's moving into. In the meantime, this serves as a reminder as to why you have to sit at the kids table. I lost hope long ago that schumer and the vast majority of the senate will do what's in the best interest of the country, but now I'm a bit embarrassed by my reply. You're spot on with this one.

I just hope as my representative, he sticks to his principle.

Yes. I thought I typed that in but hey, I'm deep into the EggNogg today.