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For sure. It's ludicrous to suggest that the state can significantly contribute in the near term unless the state gets fed money to cover a significant portion of the state's COVID costs. (Side note: of course we in NYS should get that reimbursement. This country is a partnership between states, and we shouldn't be left holding the bag for our work in addressing the virus and helping to prevent an even greater, more catastrophic spread that almost certainly would have significantly affected just about every other state.)

Just a thought. Maybe it's better we don't have a new stadium yet. Who knows how the pandemic is going to affect sports attendance and gameday experience. This is probably unlikely, but it may be that, moving forward, the public appetite for gathering at large events (like a football game attended by 70,000 people) just isn't there. Or, absent a vaccine, maybe we can't have such gatherings for several years until herd immunity is established. Or, perhaps it is that some younger, healthier people would be more wiling to attend, but older folks more at risk for COVID complications would choose to stay home. No matter, I think we're far from grasping the enormity of the impact of the pandemic. I realize that we've had a pandemic before (albeit about 100 years ago) and we still eventually had the large gatherings I mentioned. But times are different, now, and perhaps the reaction to this issue will be different, too. Bottom line: who knows whether any market will put 70,000 people together for a sporting event anytime soon. And maybe, if they can weather this storm, the Pegulas lucked out and don't have to pay for a stadium that nobody would be able to come close to filling.

Thrilled.

I checked Fox and OAN this morning and didn't see anything about the story. Not reporting it is one way to try to kill it. Drudge has it above the "fold" on his site. Not sure who else has it. I know this flirts with getting back to the sniping about the President. But here's why highlighting the misinformation is important. Everyone (with the possible exception Amazon stockholders) wants the economy to reopen "yesterday." The only way the economy reopens well, though, is if it is safe for consumers to return to their old habits. And it becomes safe to do so through the bundling of at least a few measures, namely, testing, effective treatment, and effective prevention (e.g., vaccine). Chasing speculative, junk science ghosts and instilling (or failing to discourage, depending on one's perspective) a false sense of confidence about the progress with respect to virus suppression and treatment will be hugely counterproductive if we reopen too soon and have to start this process all over again. So for everyone's benefit we have to be smart and as patient as possible. I realize that's tough. It sucks for a lot of people, and for a lot of people it sucks more than it sucks for me. But it's the only way out. Promoting baseless, silver-bullet remedies and encouraging (or, again, failing to discourage) states from reopening where federal guidelines for reopening haven't been met will not help anyone.

Vaguely reminiscent of the Trump administration given a $400m contract to a firm closely connected to his ambassador to Great Britain. Perhaps it is that, I don't know, VAN is pretty good at what it does, just like Johnson & Johnson happens to be pretty good within its field?

Will let you know. Thanks for the offer. And good for you for being financially secure. I mean this sincerely; we may disagree on issues, but we all want the best result and I'm glad that you're (from what I can discern) OK. Hopefully everyone else who reads this comes through this well, too. Well done. I laughed out loud!

Appreciate it but went vegetarian about five months ago. Wife went vegan, and I sort of came along organically to support her. It’s sort of odd - I don’t miss meat, and I’m surprised that things I thought I couldn’t live without I don’t even miss. and it’s been great. Lost weight, much stronger, much more energy. Now in the pandemic we hit the grocery store about once every three weeks and I don’t have fresh veggies (outside of frozen) in between. I’m dying for them. anyhow, given my experience I worry that habits will change significantly with all of the closures and that the economy won’t be the same when it reopens. I have friends who have restaurants (small ones) and I’ve bought gift certificates from them and donated the meals to medical professionals. I hope it works out for everyone, and if you’re in the restaurant biz I hope it gets back to normal ASAP for you, too. I’ll be rooting for you, and I’ll be there to help as many as I can.

Bad news, Deranged Rhino and Third and Long. There is a new list. And it’s not a good one to be on. But I think you’ve both earned it. *** Meanwhile, from the world of science, looks like the stable genius might have been a bit off on this one: https://apnews.com/a5077c7227b8eb8b0dc23423c0bbe2b2

Meaning that they’re pretty awesome, Warren. Keep up the great work!

Fake news. Now I have an idea where you’re getting it from, though. Straight from your commie handbook. Everything now makes so much sense!

Interesting that you knew that existed. Further proof that you are a communist cloaked in the cover of a deranged, savannah-roaming conspiracy theorist. Hence your inclusion on the “commie/pinko” list.

Not an express reference, to be sure, but certainly implied in my book.

Fake news. Pride is a sin. I’m not prideful about myself.

don’t forget the gem about the hoax, too. That was rich. Nothing says take the threat seriously like the president calling it a hoax. Agreed, for once. See above. The president also called the threat a hoax. So technically you’re correct on this one.

Fake news. I’ll rely on you for insight with respect to communist propaganda moving forward. Not my thing. But then again, I’m not on the “commie/pinko” list as you are.

I just did. Hoax.

Hoax. I’m not an idiot. (At least not all of the time.) also, since you’re on the hoax list, I think it is you who should be worried about spreading false and misleading information. Fake news, too. Everything I’ve said has been accurate.

So some weren’t screened? And were foreign nationals screened? You seemed to indicate that they were not. Fail.

Hoax. Also, why not screen travelers from Italy at the same time? And check out this picture of healthy airport social distancing: Fake news. Agree to disagree.

Hoax. I wrote it myself. also, I think might have to put you on a commie/pinko list since you’re apparently immersed in Soviet propaganda materials.

Hoax. Fake news.

Para 2. Some fair points. It’s why I called that right answer re that scenario fact-specific. Para 3. Some more fair points. But one has to keep in mind the orez’s track record of use of the dog whistle. Hoax. Misleading. Completely different contexts.

Para 1 is misleading. Nobody doubts that the virus originated in China. But the name COVID-19 accurately identifies the virus in question. The Chinese reference serves no purpose re identification and serves only to inflame and to cast blame. In point if fact, the “Chinese virus” references arguably are immaculate anyway b/c a the NYC cases appear to be traceable to a strand that came from Italy and that may have slightly mutated there. Fake news. There was an exception for chinese Nationals not meeting that criteria who were deemed not to pose a threat under then-existing CDC guidelines.

partial hoax. Most were US citizens. But the guidelines also permitted entry to certain Chinese nationals, and did not preclude flights directly from the affected Wuhan area. I learned this info at this fake news website: https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/proclamation-suspension-entry-immigrants-nonimmigrants-persons-pose-risk-transmitting-2019-novel-coronavirus/

Also, I have just formed a task force to add new names to my snowflake, hoax, and fake news lists. Anyone can do that. But the task force is only meaningful if it, you know, results in timely and effective action.