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Fake news. I post lots of serious stuff. And I am fulfilled. Thousands, for sure, as of the start of this year: https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/479041-fact-checker-counts-16k-false-misleading-claims-by-trump-in-three April. He tried to wish it away by April. Last I checked, it's still here.

Heavy doses of Fox News will suppress the virus. Gotta be it.

Would have been great if the ball was rolling six weeks before that. Like, around the time the virus was a hoax and we had 15 cases moving toward zero. opportunity lost, I guess.

“You weren’t called on!”

Hoax.

Are you suggesting that Kostabi now is washed up? I don't think that's the case. In any event, I'm pretty confident that he's not a psycho. So I wouldn't expect him to join you on the washed up psycho list anytime soon.

The reply also suggests that his inclusion on the snowflake list was warranted.

Fake news. I'm not like either one. One more reason why you're on the fake news list. Also, I have now placed you on the bad grammar list based on your disrespect for the serial comma. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_comma

I don't think I made the allegation, so I don't know what context you're referring to. I think I chimed in to say that ignorance is not a defense to his nonsense statements w/r/t coronavirus. Of course I think the guy is a hopeless, habitual liar, and the anecdotal evidence in terms of how busy he keeps fact checkers every time he opens his mouth speaks for itself. But I'm not going to get into the "proof" question you posed because I don't think this was my allegation.

Lawyer checking in again. "Absolute proof" is not the relevant standard. It's not even "beyond a reasonable doubt" here. In point of fact it's preponderance of the evidence, which is a much lower bar than the first two standards. (Unless, of course, the lies are alleged to be criminal, in which case we'd be back to beyond a reasonable doubt.) An act such as a lie also can be proven through circumstantial evidence, for what it's worth. Carry on.

1. You phrased the question improperly. It is decidedly not a yes or no question. If you wanted to make it such, you'd say, "Isn't it true that ignorance is not the same as lying, yes or no?" 2. Since you allowed for a narrative response, I'll give you one. Ignorance is not the same as lying. But willful ignorance, which is what is at issue here, can produce the same result as a lie. Intentionally ignoring facts and information that would produce a conclusion different from that desired by the speaker is tantamount to the same behavior. Hiding behind the failure to acquire knowledge that was there to be acquired, which is what happened here, can have the same effect as lying about the knowledge in the first instance.

You're right about the distinction. There's an axiom in the law, though, that ignorance is not a defense. It fits Trump here.

Not sure what you're talking about. I can't see why we wouldn't be optimistic, but guardedly so, about today's data. The numbers today, while a good sign, provide opacity but not clarity. Not sure what prior numbers you're referring to or what your complaint is there.

Bailout for the domestic oil industry. I'm not complaining; I think it's a good idea.

Fake news. Probably straight from your commie handbook. I do recall that you're on the washed up psycho list. And the snowflake list. So there's that. *** Dave Chapelle, dressed as George W. Bush, was even more prescient than he could have realized. "Mars, b*tches": https://theweek.com/speedreads/910577/trump-adviser-suggests-reopening-economy-by-putting-everybody-space-outfit

They should, you're right. Unfortunately testing has been deficient so we're in the dark so numbers w/r/t infection rate, hospitalization rate, mortality rate, etc. still are imprecise. I'm not a doctor, but I reached the same conclusion. Well stated on your end. Well said.

Fake news. I never wrote that. But congratulations are in order because you have made the snowflake list, too.

Have I put you on the snowflake list yet? In case I haven't, let's end the debate. You're on it.

See above.

I completely agree with all of those things (I'm not ascribing to the math, but I share the view that the death rate is lower than now believed to be). I still believe in proceeding cautiously because of the unknown, e.g., whether there is immunity and whether the test numbers are accurate. A sewage study of and in the tested areas might be a good idea.

Fake news.

Not questioning the numbers. Pointing out that they don't paint a complete picture of the exposure/antibody/immunity issue and should be accepted with guarded optimism. Comments like this are going to get you on the snowflake list.

Still a lot of unknown, including whether the numbers are accurate or are skewed by those who take atypical risk, but the implication about the risk tolerance rising in society based on the new data is a fair one. This is a CNBC excerpt: "Global health officials have questioned the reliability of antibody testing, however, and whether it can accurately determine whether someone is immune to the disease. World Health Organization said on Friday that there’s no evidence serological tests can show whether a person has immunity or is no longer at risk of becoming reinfected." Since Obama is a Muslim born in Kenya or Indonesia, or maybe both places, he was a fake president and therefore was not owed respect, meaning that more screaming and finger-wagging should have occurred. /end sarcasm.

There you go again with more fake news. I have never said anything about membership in the "referenced population."

Fake news. Nobody has said that the national debt hasn't grown under other presidents. In point of fact there is a big difference between adding a nominal sum to the national debt and adding between $3T and $8T to that debt. Particularly, might I add, when one of the campaign promises was to erase the national debt in its entirety: https://www.thebalance.com/trump-plans-to-reduce-national-debt-4114401 "likely immune" and then "can." Nice logical leap there. Better put would be "possibly immune" and "possibly can." That was a deep fake picture. Kellyanne was standing at attention. Hoax. Are you hanging out in a preschool right now? If so that's kind of weird.