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I'm gonna go with potentially Darron Lee. Stills seems less likely to me, unless something is wrong with Brown/McKenzie and they want someone with speed to run jet sweep/pop pass here and there. Speed at LB seems much more important to me in this case if we approach Jackson like we did last year. I can see us sitting Andre White, dressing Dodson in his place (ST takes a back seat here), and going either with Lee or maybe even Antonio Williams (less likely) in place of Gilliam (ST is really taking a back seat in that event). Bates probably could fill the TE3 role, especially if they're planning on running 4 wide much of the game. I suppose if the gameplay is really receiver heavy we might see Stills just so an injury to a WR doesn't knock us out of the game. But I kind of wonder if we're going to see Lee as a counter to Jackson. The Pats fumble, IIRC, was pretty bad. He kind of got flipped and the ball launched from his arm. I doubt McD trusts him.

I think we'll see Wiliams brought up as insurance against Singletary/Yeldon going down for a COVID reason the night before or the day of the game. Yeldon was that guy (for Singletary/Moss before), but with Moss out there's no such safety net. So we see Williams elevated and then inactive on Saturday. *And by "elevated" I mean that Williams will be one of the two PS players added to make "55" this week. I vaguely recall a fumble that was launched into the air against NE in the home game last year. That was more or less the end of Yeldon's shot to be a primary ballcarrier here.

Four wides, a little bit of Lee Smith here and there in max protects, and let's see what happens. Play to our strength. Completely agree.

It’s an interesting thought. The chargers shut him down a few years ago playing 7 DBs. We hemmed him in last year with, from what I recall, was a base D and lots of Lorax. We will find out on Saturday, I guess.

My little brain doesn’t understand the last paragraph. But I think we’ve found common ground on the first paragraph. And that is a good thing!

How old is Watson? 24-ish, right? If they think this guy has at least another decade of high-end football in him, it might not be the worst thing to give Bienemy a shot, see what happens for a year or two, and go from there. They can get it right faster with Watson than with just about any other player or combination of players, so giving in might not be the worst move here.

I gotta stick to my point about the Capitol being in a class by itself. It's not a neighborhood in Philly or Portland or Seattle or wherever. It is the seat of the first branch of government. That's what makes this different. It's not an attack on a street, a neighborhood, or even a city. It's an attack on what literally is the image of our government and our democracy. That's why it has to be dealt with harshly, regardless of who pays the price--MAGA, leftist, somebody who just got caught up in the moment, whatever. The nature of the attack compels a significant consequence.

Good. I don't think there's an analogy to be drawn between the Capitol BS and what occurred this summer. The Capitol is in a class by itself. But to the extent it's relevant, I completely agree with you. Any rioters from this summer should have been prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, and all of the insurrectionists and traitors (that is, everyone) who stormed the Capitol should receive the same treatment.

Doubtful. KOs depend on wind - some may be returnable. And McKenzie, as a returner, is a fumbler. There's a reason they use Hyde to catch punts when Roberts is unavailable.

Nope. Those are the Trumpers who believe everyone is lying but Trump. people are entitled to peacefully protest. It’s the American way. Promulgating this stop the steal lie, however, has got to stop. Trump started it, his followers bought it, and it has led to such things as insurrection and the storming of the capitol.

I don't mind any of this, except for "stop the steal." It is a freaking lie. That's the problem. There was no meaningful fraud, and everyone with any kind of political background (Republican and Democrat) knows it. Don't like the relaxation of absentee ballot rules? Totally fine. We disagree, but your opinion on that issue is at least somewhat close to reality. The "stop the steal" nonsense? No reality to it whatsoever. Nothing but a straight, damned, poisonous lie.

I'll add: we could all use a little more patience and kindness in our lives. Great thread. Wonderful idea.

By Rochester I assume you mean West Seneca.

Kind of reasonable with the mess in Cleveland and GB maybe being shorthanded. Great point!

He backed himself into inaccuracy. Point is Indy had a game plan that required perfection, and they nearly executed. Good on them, and good on us for beating them.

A unicorn, for sure. Take away (or limit) what he does best and live with a big passing play if it comes along. And move the ball early so they have to throw to keep up.

Agreed. Part of the constellation of factors that went Indy’s way. They had to play a perfect game to win, and they nearly did. But for what I suspect was a perfect breeze on their missed FG a and the overthrow of Pittman it easily could have been different.

The INT last week was a brutal throw. Not sure if it was on the move - he might have been climbing the pocket. But just a horrible, horrible throw.

I voted Philly for Daboll. Always made the most sense to me all along. Close to home, similar QB, out of conference, need on their end for what he does best .

Maybe you're right about elite. They were ridiculous. I thought he was throwing the first one away and, as it was in the air, I was thinking that he put a lot on it to simply get rid of the ball. Just a stunning throw. Probably the most amazing throw I've ever seen. I don't think a play like that is easily replicable. The other throw was reminiscent of Rodgers (on Thanksgiving, I think?). Just absurd. But probably not as lucky. I think we actually kind of agree on Allen. He is the reason we won the game. I just felt like . . . I know he can play a lot better. It's not a criticism, I guess, just a recognition of what a gifted player he is and what an excellent player he has become. If he's "on" his game, we will win the Super Bowl.

His work with Wentz speaks for itself. Completely agree with you. His work with his assistant in KC also speaks for itself. Undisciplined, lousy leader. Hope they hire him.

Whomever picks up the blitz better is the guy I want to see this week. More Lee Smith this week, too? We shall see.

They should (obviously) want Daboll considering that they are either keeping Darnold, drafting Justin Fields, or both. The most important thing they can do is to take the next three years to "build" their next QB, just like Daboll did with Allen. But, of course, this is the Jets, so they're screw it up somehow or other.

To me inside pressure is the key with this group. Hughes pressures, but doesn't get home. Addison is hit and miss. Johnson hasn't earned the snaps. I think Epenesa will be much better next year, but I'm worried about him getting pinned and losing the edge this week. I'd play Murphy in his place. But the problems with the ends aren't as serious if we can get a little bit of pressure in the middle. Unfortunately we're wearing Oliver out having him play 1 sometimes because Star opted out and Butler is inconsistent. That's basically the problem with the whole thing. They miss star and they miss Jordan Phillips in a big way. And I'll add, Quinton Jefferson seems like a great guy, but I'm not sure that he's had the effect that they had hoped. So, basically, a bunch of problems came together at one time and forced McD and Frazier to hold the thing together with gum and dental floss this year. Hence Oliver seeing time at 1 and Justin Zimmer seeing meaningful snaps.

Agreed. Here's another reality. We played a stinker on Saturday in which our lines "lost" during the first three quarters and really "lost" during the fourth quarter. Field position was horrible all day long, in large part to at least one dumb decision by Roberts. D couldn't get off the field on third downs. John Brown was a negative. Game plan might have been a little better (use McKenzie a bit to at least get them thinking and maybe make their D-line run side to side and get a little more tired?). I don't even think Allen was all that sharp, honestly. (The toe-tappers to Davis were kind of lucky and inflated both our score and his stats.) And yet we still won. Basically, this year, we learned that the way to beat us is through a balanced attack and to have our offense have a stinker. Tennessee wrote the script. Arizona, although an unlucky loss, was similar. Our troubles really arise when we play a team like the Titans where we have to sell out to stop the run and the QB is good enough to beat us otherwise. KC and first NE games were affected by weather and injury, and I don't think they speak to the formula to beat us. So, long story short, yes we were bad on Saturday, but I completely agree with you. Now we're used to being in a tough game again, and we won in spite of turning in a clunker. Let's make Lamar beat us through the air and see what happens. Let's also see how true they are to their principles - bring on the blitz, and let's let Allen throw it around all day. Although he was a lousy run defender, we miss Jordan Phillips's pressure more than people realize. We also need someone--anyone--who can anchor. Not having Star hurts.