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How much less CAN you care? Does that mean you currently care a lot? why would a rushing title for one of our best players be hollow? It would almost definitely mean we won the game which gets us one step closer to the play offs.

I don't agree with the OP's conjecture. I think this Defense would run through a brick wall for KW. He was never the most physically gifted player on the field but he has always made the most of what he has. I don't believe anyone has mistaken the respect he has been given by the fans, media and other teams for being sheltered or coddled.

That IS cool. I love that he even has a shot at this. I get it is a long shot, but it is possible. There is also a chance that he may have a bonus riding on leading the league in rushing, in which case the entire offense will do their best to help him get there. How close is he to number one in total yards from scrimmage?

Brilliant reporting.

I get why they called it gross sexual assault.

So not surprising.

Yay!

this is a funny bitcoin video: This guy has a bunch of funny videos on things like yoga photos, millennials etc...

You get disability for Aspergers? I thought that was something you could function fully with. Feel free to PM your response if you don't want to answer publicly.

I have to agree with this one. Hopefully he loved playing for Coach McD and wants to be reunited!

I believe Vegas benefits by getting the spread exact, but without knowing who the most money was bet on and at what spread, I can't make a definitive statement. There was supposedly a good deal of money on 9 and 10. The final score was WAY more beneficial to them to than the Eagles winning by 3.

bummer, I like Elston. Over under on Colt getting injured? I give him 1 quarter.

Yes, that I AM saying. It is getting hard to believe that things like this, that appear to line up just perfectly for "Vegas" are strictly good/bad luck. I would like to believe that any football player would be too competitive to intentionally lose a game, but a few points here or there that doesn't affect the outcome of the game? Who knows...

If there is one, I am going to it. Been waiting too long not to attend.

To be fair, this example is not about throwing a game, it is about a highly unlikely series of events that made the score line up with a point spread in a way that was advantageous to Vegas. (by a team about to move to Vegas coincidentally?) I never said Carr threw the game.

Not sure why but I am kind of rooting for that outcome as well. I think it is because the way some people reacted when the Bills "passed on him" by trading away the pick.

We sent him there to make up for Bieber...

Good for him. If you believe you can play, instead of just bitching and saying you are being black-balled etc, go play somewhere and prove it. If he succeeds in the CFL and proves he has matured, NFL teams will notice.

Who said that?

Seems far fetched I know, I don't want to believe the NFL is becoming WWE or boxing, but stranger things have happened. As far as your point, it is possible that someone would only have to get to the Raiders, 9 or 10 points still creates a favorable outcome compared to 3. It is plausible that the Eagles didn't kick strictly because they didn't need to.

No, I believe it all COULD just be a coincidence but I believe it is outcomes like these that make fans believe games could be fixed. I am honestly not sure what to believe any more but I have to admit that the final outcome benefitted Vegas MUCH more than a 13-10 ending would have.

Taken from one of the articles: At the time that I published my Week 16 column (results of which were less than great this week), the Las Vegas consensus line was 9. Just because the line closed at 10, does not mean that's where a majority of the money was. So no, you do not have the scenario correct. They didn't want to risk injury by kicking an extra point? Seriously? I am not even saying that I believe all games are fixed, or anything like that, but unusual endings like this, that affect gambling payouts, make you question the integrity of some games. I have no idea what was said, but like I said, it seemed unusual as I was watching it and the outcome of that play made it even more so.

I've been meaning to discuss this since watching the game but haven't had the time. I agree that we have seen this before but it was crazy watching it play out live and feeling like something was going on. The side bar that Carr took with the official prior to the play stood out to me. Things like this may not always affect the outcome of the game itself but they definitely affect the outcome of the game vs the spread.

I was watching the Eagles/Raiders game on Christmas. The game was well in hand for the Eagles when the Raiders went for it on fourth down in the final seconds, with a ridiculous attempt that lead to a fumble, recovered by the Eagles for a TD. Just prior to the play, Carr had a conversation with an official that seemed odd at the time and lead me to believe something was about to happen to affect the outcome based on the spread, turns out I was right. I am not normally the tin foil hat type but it seemed staged enough to make me research the spread after the game and as it turns out MANY gamblers were affected by this outcome. This odd, unnecessary play, coupled with the Eagles decision to take a knee rather than kick the extra point seemed unusual as I watched it and the outcome appears to have helped Vegas considerably. Judge for yourselves: http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/news/raiders-eagles-bad-beat-betting-line-point-spread-final-play-vegas/qjxn60x95kp41g6flhdjhvs2v https://sportshandle.com/eagles-raiders-defensive-score-spread-oh-boy/ https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/12/26/eagles-raiders-almost-ended-bad-beat-cover-spread

Kind of like the last second fumble for a touchdown right at the very end of the Raiders/Eagles game that I am guessing had a huge impact on Vegas due to the spread. I was watching the game and thought it was odd that Carr had a conversation with the referee right before that play. I am not the tin foil hat type but I thought to myself right before that play that something was about to happen to affect the results based on the spread. I looked it up after and was correct. The spread was between 9 and 10 based on when the bet was placed... Raiders 15th drive: Raiders return the ball to their own 36-yard line with 17 seconds remaining. Carr’s first down pass is incomplete. 14 seconds left. Carr’s second down pass is incomplete after getting pressured. 10 seconds left. Raiders take a timeout. Carr gets pressured and avoids a sack by throwing the ball out of bounds. 4th-and-10 with three seconds left. Raiders try to lateral the ball but they fumble and Derek Barnett runs it in for a touchdown. Lol. Eagles kneel on the PAT to end the game. Eagles lead, 19-10. https://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2017/12/25/16818112/eagles-vs-raiders-2017-live-results-score-updates-highlights-christmas-final-score-philadelphia-nfl