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Arians = Idiot LOL

I never liked Tyrod Taylor as the Bills QB, yet I want the Bills to draft Lamar Jackson. He's going to be the best QB in this draft class and it's not even going to be close. As for your comparison of the two, it's as if you're saying all sports cars are the same. However, Taylor is a Camaro and Jackson is a Lamborghini. BTW, the smartest QB guru on the planet Bruce Arians went on record saying he would draft Lamar Jackson as the Cardinals franchise QB (a team he was just head coach of for the past five seasons)... https://www.revengeofthebirds.com/2018/4/15/17238760/bruce-arians-lamar-jackson-2018-nfl-draft-pick-15-arizona-cardinals

Lamar seems like a very tough dude to me. I watched a video where a defender grabbed his face mask in the bottom of a pile he went ballistic. The guy knows when and how to go down and he knows when to deliver a blow to the opponent. His nickname should be "Fierce", because that's how he plays. I think his body size seems like a nitpicky, overblown issue.

I can see teams being scared as heck on Rosen's durability prospects and see him as having a clone career of Bradford. I think one of the draft shocks might be Jackson going before Rosen.

I think the pocket passer thing they've been talking about, them not showing a lot of interest in Jackson and the Bills liking Allen rumors where smokescreens. I just get the feeling that the media and fans are getting head faked by the whole league who see Jackson as one of the top two or three QBs in this draft. Only a couple more weeks when teams have to start laying their cards on the table. Most anticipated draft ever.

If given the chance, Belichick will trade ahead of the Dolphins and Bills pick to take Jackson. I totally believe he's the top QB on his board, and he's salvaging thinking about not having to spend high draft picks or big free agent money on the OL and RB positions. Seeing what Watson did with his old coach Bill OBrien sealed the deal for him wanting Jackson. The reason they've been trading for draft picks this year is to trade up to get him. I also believe that Jackson's high on Beane's QB pecking order. Jackson and Watson are the future of the league. It's just too hard to find and keep a decent enough offensive line to protect non elusive QBs from the insanely skilled edge rushers coming into the league.

I'm hoping the Bills get either Darnold, Mayfield or Jackson. I just see way too many flags regarding Rosen being a fit for the Bills...non-mobile, concussion prone, toughness is questionable, likes to hear himself talk way too much and is going to constantly be putting a target on his and his teams backs, and lastly I don't think he would ever grow to like or feel comfortable in Buffalo.

The NFL game is changing. The Texans with Watson, and the Chiefs with Mahomes are at the forefront of what direction the league is going in. Defensive players are far too fast and agile for your offensive line to have any sort of chance at protecting a non-elusive QB (think old school drop back passers). Unless you have an all-league offensive line, or you have a QB who's lightening quick with his decisions and throws, your QB is simply not going to last a whole season. I think Lamar Jackson is going a LOT sooner than fans think. That's because I think he's widely scene as a game changing franchise QB whose game transfers perfectly to the direction the NFL game is going in. I totally believe that Belichick wants Lamar Jackson, as I do the Bills wanting him also.

Found this nugget from today about the Patriots interest in Jackson... https://nesn.com/2018/04/nfl-rumors-patriots-are-team-most-interested-in-qb-lamar-jackson/ They actually have have enough picks to easily move ahead of the Bills #12 pick to draft him. They could dominate another 10 years with Jackson.

I could see Belichick trading up to draft Jackson. He's smart enough to know the league and game are changing drastically. He saw Watson's immediate impact with the Texans. Belichick is a visionary and he would probably love to go the complete opposite of Brady and see if he can win with a running QB with crazy athletic ability. If he did pick Jackson the media (who've done nothing but criticize Jackson) would fall in love with the move.

Trading back from #12 is definitely a possibility if the draft doesn't go their way in the top 10. Let's say they wanted Mayfield and Rosen and they could get a deal done to trade up and both are gone, then they wanted Roquan Smith and he was picked by the Raiders...this is where they might trade back for extra picks this year or next year and then hope either Jackson or Rudolph are there at #22 (of course, that's if they feel they can't justify pulling the trigger at #12 for either of those two QBs).

I just did a fanspeak mock draft and came up with this... 12: QB LAMAR JACKSON LOUISVILLE 22: LB LEIGHTON VANDER ESCH BOISE STATE 53: WR ANTHONY MILLER MEMPHIS 56: G BRADEN SMITH AUBURN 65: C FRANK RAGNOW ARKANSAS 96: TE HAYDEN HURST SOUTH CAROLINA Can't get everything, so the defense had to suffer in the first three rounds. If you call getting Leighton Vader Esch suffering. I think our offense would be on the road to finally having huge play making abilities though.

Jackson has the passing skills and quick instincts to make them pay. A lot of people are underestimating his passing skills, which improved last year. He's going to be a top 10 QB in a few years.

I highly doubt there is one QB they covet and are targeting. These guys have plans, and back up plans. I would be shocked if Jackson wasn't one of the plans. The guy has unreal playmaking skills that would be unmatched at the NFL level. The fact that they have not be linked to Jackson should greatly concern those who do not want him. These guys are head faking the whole league and he's probably their #2 QB.

I think that's a solid two round draft. Of course it all hinges on LJ being the real deal, which I think he is.

The problem is quality players, specifically on the offensive line. They won't have the draft picks to do it. They would have to wait till 2019 free agency and the draft of next year. Are they going to sit Rosen for a whole year and then hope the quality free agent offensive lineman sign with them? Are the 1st or 2nd round rookie offensive lineman going to be great in their first year? If not, then you are looking at year three to get the situation settled for a non-elusive QB such as Rosen. I just don't see the Bills having that kind of long term OL plan for a guy who, while ready to play year one, will need a very good offensive line to protect him.

Assuming the Bills have to give up a bunch of high draft picks to get Rosen, where are you going to get the quality players on the offensive line who will be protecting him?

Understood, but I do think Incognito's retirement just took Josh Rosen off the Bills board. You just can't pretend that he's not going to get crushed like David Carr did when he was drafted by the Texans. The guy is not mobile and he has a proven history of concussions while playing at a much lower level than the NFL. As the kids like to say...it is what it is. By the time the Bills built a Fort Knox in front of him, he would be done. I do think that Darnold, Mayfield, Jackson and Rudolph would be QB picks that could survive a shaky offensive line due to having the size, mobility or both. Plus none of them have histories of concussions.

Given the really really bad state of the offensive line, the best fit is clearly Lamar Jackson. They will no doubt need a QB with the best wheels since Michael Vick. Worst fit would be Josh Rosen because he's the least elusive and concussion prone.

FYI... NFL's Path to the Draft guys (DJ, Brooks) just said that they're hearing strongly within the organizations that it's looking like Allen to the Browns at #1, and Chubb to the Giants at #2, leaving Darnold for the Jets. If that's how it happens, then Browns #4, Broncos #5 or Colts #6 are much easier trade up options for the Bills if they want either Rosen or Mayfield.

That's wrong according to this story... http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/15201946/tennessee-titans-trade-no-1-pick-los-angeles-rams Rams paid 2100 points in 2016 (Titans gave also Rams a 4th and a 6th 2016 picks), and a mid 1st plus and mid 3rd rounder in 2017 would equal about 1100. That's 3200. I don't know where you're getting (adding?) your numbers from.

Sorry, I just don't believe you.

With what? They don't have the picks anymore. Free agency? Sounds good, until the players you already have had on the team resent the new additions being paid prime money and they are still looking for the big bucks. That never works in real life with real people.

They did not pay 4000 in trade value. I'm not going to do the homework on that, but no way do I remember them paying that kind of ridiculous price.

That's crazy. The reason being is that a team needs to have the ability to put supporting players in place and that's primarily through the draft. You'd be defeating the purpose of having a franchise QB. What good is a franchise QB when he's getting knocked down on every other play because he's passing every down since his defense can't stop the other team from scoring and the offensive line and running game is a joke?