JimBob2232

1) Give the 3rd rounder to Tennessee for Starks (Pending a reasonable contract) 2) Re-Sign Anthony Thomas 3) Send our 2nd round pick to San Diego for Turner (Pending a reasonable contract) 4) Draft Willis #12 5) Resign Kiwalkee Thoma 6) Sign Nick Harper, CB JimBob...done.

Marv has been GM here for 10 years? Wow, time flies...

LOL....wow...

Whomever gets drafted #12!

In all honesty, drafting Calvin Johnson would basically be commiting to the fact that we cant/wont resign lee evans in a couple years if CJ pans out. While it would be awsome to have them both for a couple years, im not so sure this is a good long term plan. If he falls to 12, sure (HA!)....but dont trade up for him, thats nonsense.

First you ask why they would pass on him, then you give reasons they would. Hmm.... I dont get your ways... But the browns are picking 3rd for a reason. They have holes. ALOT of holes. Well, really, not enough holes. They need someone on the OL, Joe Thomas could be that guy. They need a QB, brady quinn could be that guy. They could use a WR, and who better than Calvin Johnson. They already have Jamal lewis. Those are 4 good reasons WHY they might not take peterson. I've been down this road before. Houston, Detroit and Cleveland are the ONLY 3 teams above us that need a RB. So for peterson to go he needs to slip by those 3. First 2 are fairly easy to see how it could happen. Houston is the problem. But like you said, they just signed Green...so who knows. Sure, someone could trade up, but by the same logic, who? Green Bay could trade up to get AP, but why would they do that if they are virtualy guarenteed to get Lynch if Peterson falls to Buffalo (Rams, Panthers and steelers wont take him). Giants were (and are still) a possibility, but it will take alot to move up that far into the top 10, and with Jacobs/Droghns, it might not be worth it. Tennessee is the only other option...and truthfully, probably the most likely, though it will likely cost them a first round pick next season to move up into the top 10. Might be too steep a price for them to pay. I'm not saying AP will fall to 12. But I am saying its possible. Somewhere in the 30-40% chance range IMO.

This is how I see it 1. Chris Brown 2. Either Bush or Hunt 3. Shaud Williams 4. FA Fullback 5. Rookie FB/RB (to be on practice squad) What I would Prefer 1. Marshawn Lynch 2. Anthony Thomas 3. Shaud Williams 4. FA Fullback 5. Rookie FB/RB (to be on practice squad)

Browns just signed Jamal Lewis. Not the long-term solution, but it gives them options to take a Brady Quinn, Joe Thomas, even consider Calvin Johnson...I really dont think they go AP here. Though its possible. More likely home IMO is Houston. But those are really the ONLY two possibilites for him before Buffalo...

Updated Originial Post.

Puff Puff Pass...

I dont think GB moves up for Peterson, because they are sitting at #16. If they see peterson falling, they are in line for Lynch falling to them at #16. Jumping up to grab peterson is possible if they are not sold on lynch, but if they are somewhat close on their board, its probably not worth the jump. The Giants are a better possibility. But moving from #20 into the top 10 will likely take next years #1. Steep price to pay, but its the Giants, so who knows....

Oh, give it up....you know how many running backs had more than 700 yards last season? We'll find someone, relax. Almost anybody who starts 16 games will run for 1,000 yards. Do the math, thats 63 yards per game. Relax. If we dont have a back come the draft, we will be in a position to take lynch (or maybe peterson) in the first, or Bush in the 2nd. We will not be going into next season with Fred Jackson and Shaud Williams...

I know, I know...no chance you say...but hear me out here. 1 - Oakland - All reports say Jamarcus Russell. Quinn, and CJ are possibilities. 2 - Cleveland. Possible. But they just signed Jamal Lewis. Quinn is a possibility, as is Joe Thomas. 3 - Detroit - With Jones and Bell, doubtful they will take Peterson 4 - Tampa - Wont spend another top pick on a RB when they have Caddilac 5 - Arizona - Edge. 6 - Washington - Portis 7 - Minnesota - Too many needs, and upgrading the RB position isnt one of them. 8 - Houston - Very possible, but they just signed Green, also have Davis/Williams and Gado... 9 - Miami - Brown/Wililams 10-Atlanta - Dunn/Norwood 11 - San Fran - Gore 12- Buffalo So, really the only teams above us that look like they need a RB are Cleveland, Detroit and Houston. Its very probably that Cleveland and Detroit will take Quinn and Joe Thomas (if not Calvin Johnson), leaving Houston as the only other possibility. I find it hard to believe he will get by houston, but I could see houston taking Ginn Jr, Branch, or Quinn (if he falls...doubtful). Perhaps someone trades up for him, but I am always suprised by how few trades there are at the top of the draft board. Thoughts?

in a word...no

yeah, looks like 3 years, 17M to me... which aint bad. At that point, he will either be VERY good and demand a significant new contract, or he will not be worth 3.6M in 2010 and be cut.

And never mind Tom Brady in the 6th round, london fletcher as an UDFA, Marques colston as (almost) mr. irrelavent. Face it, the draft is a gamble. sometimes it pays off, sometimes it doesnt....but the more different numbers you cover up on the roulette board, the better chance you're going to hit it big.

No, but I do think it would explain, at least partially, why we were so gung-ho about moving him

Have you ever seen a grown man naked?

Willis is gone...hmm...do I see a connection?

Yeah, its like he lost his drive. That first year he was pretty good. Got outside, nasty stiff arm gave me a stiffy. But after that first season, he has just been flat. Dancing around like he is auditioning for Grease III, reading a braille playbook, and playing dead three times a game. The guy just didnt care. Didnt want to improve himself. Hard to believe that a guy who gave 1000% to come back from such a devistating knee injury just couldnt motivate himself to improve his game. The ravens are getting an adequate back. And one with alot of upside. If he returns to his rookie (or 2nd year) form, he will be a good pickup. And being with all those guys from the 'U' might be a good help. But honestly, I see him being a top 20 RB for the rest of his career. Which isnt a bad career, its just so much less than he could have been.

Also just got the 404 pink screen of death.... And, long-term, are we going to need to sign in to view the board? I'd rather not have to...but I guess I'd still be here if I did!

Q (Reporter): Did willis ask for a trade? A (Juron): Thats a question you will have to ask willis Hmm...

2001 95 - Jonas Jennings 100 - Rudi Johnson 2002 91 - Brian Westbrook 2003 81 - Derrick Dockery 82 - Ricky Manning Jr 93 - Chris Brown 94 - Angelo Crowell 97 - Chris Simms 101 - Dominick Davis 111 - Terrence McGee 2004 81 - Chris Cooley 90 - Matt Shaub 91 - Tony Hargrove 2005 83 - Chris Henry 109 - Marion Barber 110 - Brandon Jacobs 2006 79 - Jerius Norwood 105 - Ko Simpson Thats just a quick list of people around that area. Note that these are the "sexy" name guys. There are only a handful of teams (other than the bills) that I could name 2 members of their O-Line, so undoubtably there are some good Linemen and 2nd tier players that I ommited from the above lists. But there are GOOD players that come out of that round. Interesting to note how many are current (or former) Bills...

Who are they going to block for? How about a guy named JP LOSMAN! Ugh, sometimes this show is annoying. Not saying I want us to sign Corey Dillion, but ask yourself this question, Which way is our team better next year Upgraded OL, Willis Mcgahee OR Upgraded OL, Corey Dillon and lets say, a 3rd round Cornerback? (never mind the additional 3rd next year....) Its not a tough choice. This trade improves us.

This is the same network which refused to show a picture of muhammed....right?