JimBob2232

I dont think GB moves up for Peterson, because they are sitting at #16. If they see peterson falling, they are in line for Lynch falling to them at #16. Jumping up to grab peterson is possible if they are not sold on lynch, but if they are somewhat close on their board, its probably not worth the jump. The Giants are a better possibility. But moving from #20 into the top 10 will likely take next years #1. Steep price to pay, but its the Giants, so who knows....

Oh, give it up....you know how many running backs had more than 700 yards last season? We'll find someone, relax. Almost anybody who starts 16 games will run for 1,000 yards. Do the math, thats 63 yards per game. Relax. If we dont have a back come the draft, we will be in a position to take lynch (or maybe peterson) in the first, or Bush in the 2nd. We will not be going into next season with Fred Jackson and Shaud Williams...

I know, I know...no chance you say...but hear me out here. 1 - Oakland - All reports say Jamarcus Russell. Quinn, and CJ are possibilities. 2 - Cleveland. Possible. But they just signed Jamal Lewis. Quinn is a possibility, as is Joe Thomas. 3 - Detroit - With Jones and Bell, doubtful they will take Peterson 4 - Tampa - Wont spend another top pick on a RB when they have Caddilac 5 - Arizona - Edge. 6 - Washington - Portis 7 - Minnesota - Too many needs, and upgrading the RB position isnt one of them. 8 - Houston - Very possible, but they just signed Green, also have Davis/Williams and Gado... 9 - Miami - Brown/Wililams 10-Atlanta - Dunn/Norwood 11 - San Fran - Gore 12- Buffalo So, really the only teams above us that look like they need a RB are Cleveland, Detroit and Houston. Its very probably that Cleveland and Detroit will take Quinn and Joe Thomas (if not Calvin Johnson), leaving Houston as the only other possibility. I find it hard to believe he will get by houston, but I could see houston taking Ginn Jr, Branch, or Quinn (if he falls...doubtful). Perhaps someone trades up for him, but I am always suprised by how few trades there are at the top of the draft board. Thoughts?

in a word...no

yeah, looks like 3 years, 17M to me... which aint bad. At that point, he will either be VERY good and demand a significant new contract, or he will not be worth 3.6M in 2010 and be cut.

And never mind Tom Brady in the 6th round, london fletcher as an UDFA, Marques colston as (almost) mr. irrelavent. Face it, the draft is a gamble. sometimes it pays off, sometimes it doesnt....but the more different numbers you cover up on the roulette board, the better chance you're going to hit it big.

No, but I do think it would explain, at least partially, why we were so gung-ho about moving him

Have you ever seen a grown man naked?

Willis is gone...hmm...do I see a connection?

Yeah, its like he lost his drive. That first year he was pretty good. Got outside, nasty stiff arm gave me a stiffy. But after that first season, he has just been flat. Dancing around like he is auditioning for Grease III, reading a braille playbook, and playing dead three times a game. The guy just didnt care. Didnt want to improve himself. Hard to believe that a guy who gave 1000% to come back from such a devistating knee injury just couldnt motivate himself to improve his game. The ravens are getting an adequate back. And one with alot of upside. If he returns to his rookie (or 2nd year) form, he will be a good pickup. And being with all those guys from the 'U' might be a good help. But honestly, I see him being a top 20 RB for the rest of his career. Which isnt a bad career, its just so much less than he could have been.

Also just got the 404 pink screen of death.... And, long-term, are we going to need to sign in to view the board? I'd rather not have to...but I guess I'd still be here if I did!

Q (Reporter): Did willis ask for a trade? A (Juron): Thats a question you will have to ask willis Hmm...

2001 95 - Jonas Jennings 100 - Rudi Johnson 2002 91 - Brian Westbrook 2003 81 - Derrick Dockery 82 - Ricky Manning Jr 93 - Chris Brown 94 - Angelo Crowell 97 - Chris Simms 101 - Dominick Davis 111 - Terrence McGee 2004 81 - Chris Cooley 90 - Matt Shaub 91 - Tony Hargrove 2005 83 - Chris Henry 109 - Marion Barber 110 - Brandon Jacobs 2006 79 - Jerius Norwood 105 - Ko Simpson Thats just a quick list of people around that area. Note that these are the "sexy" name guys. There are only a handful of teams (other than the bills) that I could name 2 members of their O-Line, so undoubtably there are some good Linemen and 2nd tier players that I ommited from the above lists. But there are GOOD players that come out of that round. Interesting to note how many are current (or former) Bills...

Who are they going to block for? How about a guy named JP LOSMAN! Ugh, sometimes this show is annoying. Not saying I want us to sign Corey Dillion, but ask yourself this question, Which way is our team better next year Upgraded OL, Willis Mcgahee OR Upgraded OL, Corey Dillon and lets say, a 3rd round Cornerback? (never mind the additional 3rd next year....) Its not a tough choice. This trade improves us.

This is the same network which refused to show a picture of muhammed....right?

I'd consider buying one.... but this thing is just UGLY http://www.velocityjournal.com/images/full...olt22013311.jpg

Turner - Yes. (SD wont do it) Betts - No. Briggs - Hmmm.....

Yep. Saw this too.

It would be a damn miricle if it happens. Shawn Alexander - Not worth a 2nd round pick Edgarrin James - Not worth a 2nd ronnd pick Thomas Jones - Worth a swap of 2nd round picks Willis McGahee - Worth a 2nd round pick PLUS a 5th round pick..... Somehow this just doesnt add up

RAVENS CLEARING CAP SPACE: The Ravens just cut veteran guard Edwin Mulitalo according to their website. Mulitalo had three years remaining on his contract. His release takes the guard's $2 million base salary off their books for the 2007 season, but his accelerated signing bonus might make it a wash. I'll have to check that. But it's also $2 million in base salary off the books for 2008 and 2009. Anyone want to speculate as to why they're clearing cap room? Still would rather keep him....

Um....he got MORE money than dockery...

If I recall correctly, the current rule in place requires that for each successive time you tag a guy, his salary is either the top 5 in his position, or increases by 20%, wichever is higher. I understand a players position, but lets think about this for a minute. Yes Porter got 20M guarenteed, but he is also getting a league minimum salary to go with the guarenteed money (assumption on my part, but its probably close to it). Briggs is getting 7M (or so) guarenteed this year, and then will likely sign a contract next year worth 20M guarenteed (or more). In a 2 year time frame, he will make MORE money than porter. Catch is, if he gets hurt this year, he loses big time.

Again, why would the raiders give up a 3rd round pick, and pay mcgahee a huge signing bonus/contract (which he is sure to want), when they can go get a Chris Brown for average money and keep their 3rd round pick? It just doesnt make sense. You saw how little the Bears got for Thomas Jones. Thats what we are looking at here folks.

Wow. Again, this has nothing to do with my point. Take him out of the equation if you want to. Hell, I could have said LT was available and threw san diego into the mix and my point would be valid. I just saw a team with a back that had an awful year, and might be looking elsewhere. Perhaps they are not. If I told you i had inside information would you be happy?

I'll give you Cadillac not being available, but I dont think Tampa is too enamored with him. I could see them being interested in a RB and then putting caddilac on the market, which is why I threw him in there. Its no big deal though. Scratch Caddilac and TB off the list, now you have 6 teams needing a RB and 16 available adequate choices. I could have thrown Oakland/Jordan in there....but again, its pretty irrelevant to my overall point. Willis may or may not be the best back on the list, but he will cost the most (both financially and in pick compensation) than any other back on the list (sans Turner). It is unlikely anyone will give up a 3rd round pick for McGahee when they can go out and get a Chris Brown or Corey Dillon for no compensation, pay them less and not listen to them whine. This is not the time to unload mcgahee. Best case scenario, keep him this season, make him prove himself.