Mark Vader

For the record, PFF has Tre'Davious White graded as Above Average. Personally, I think he is better than that.

Why buy when you can play there for free?

There's always Oakland.

Yeah. Just look at our 35 year-old Kyle Williams & Lorenzo Alexander, and they aren't even quarterbacks. Anderson will be fine.

So we hand the ball off to Shady, Ivory & Murphy on every play this week.

Yes. By comparison PFF has Kyle Williams graded as Good, and Harrison Phillips as Above Average. Star is not at an All-Pro level, nor does he appear to be a liability either.

Ask and you shall receive..... https://www.profootballfocus.com/nfl/players/star-lotulelei/7795

Yes, I know a lot of fans here did not like the pick. Although I think more and more fans have accepted Josh Allen and think he has good potential. Personally, I liked the pick.

What's our rushing offense?

Absolutely. The Bills drafted their QB, they are not going to spend another first round pick on another QB. If the Bills add another QB during the offseason, it will be another veteran in free agency.

So, you didn't like the pick?

I agree. Although Woods probably wanted to go back to California, so it may not have mattered what the Bills would have offered. Alas, we'll never know.

I understand all of that. We just couldn't fill every hole all at once. Going into the draft our biggest needs were at QB & LB, and we only had so much money to spend in free agency. Yes, I wish we had targeted more O-Linemen in the draft, but I'm not upset about the picks of Allen, Edmunds & Phillips. We have to bite the bullet this year, even if it cracks all of our teeth. Next off season is when things will change.

So it's all a lost cause. Josh Allen will never be successful in this league. Is that the bottom line?

Wood retiring and Incognito doing whatever he was doing, was unforeseen, and really messed everything up.

By "everyone" I am talking about people on this board. Okay, it may not have been a unanimous 100% of the people on this board saying that, but it was clear that the majority of fans weren't exactly clamoring for the Bills to keep Robert Woods at all costs. There were many people here saying how Woods was nothing special, or that he was a great run blocker. Now all of a sudden fans are saying that we should have kept Woods no matter what. Where was all of this demanding from the fans when he was a free agent? I sure didn't see it.

Beathard has a full year of learning in the NFL ahead of Allen. That is considerable. As for the 49'ers attempting to get better at the position.....They gave a five year $137.5 million contract with over $70 million guaranteed to a quarterback who has never played an entire season of NFL football. We shall see how that works out.

So it is quite possible that both Star & Trent Murphy were positive signings?

They used to do this on a more frequent basis, nice to see they still do.

Then you are the first person on this board that I know of to be in favor of it. When Woods walked everyone said the Rams gave him too much.

Yet the 49'ers believe in Jimmy Garoppolo.

So you both would have been fine with the Bills giving him the type of contract the Rams gave him?

We aren't going winless this season, so how are we the new Browns?

Let's take these players one at a time. Woods. I loved the guy. Was thrilled we drafted him. Wish he was still here. Although a lot of people on this board said he wasn't worth the money he was getting from the Rams. Would you have kept him with that contract he was getting? Brown had his moments but he also tended to disappear, that Steelers game still gives me nightmares. I don't miss him that much. Watkins. I was a big fan of this guy. I didn't care what we gave up when we drafted him. He just did not live up to his potential. I wish we could have kept him, but the money was not going to be justified. Hogan. I do not understand the love that Bills fans have for this guy. Especially when a lot of people on this board were saying how terrible he was. I don't miss him at all. Darby. Tough to say on this guy, because he was here for a short time. Apparently he did not fit the scheme. Would have been nice to keep him, but it just did not work out. Gilmore. Liked when we drafted him, but his attitude and his play during his final year really did it for me. He did not want to be here, and his "effort" showed it. Good riddance. I agree with you in that I would like to have some of these WR's right now, instead of who he have currently, but that's the bad breaks we got. It sucks!

I agree. Remember the 2017 preseason? Everyone here was saying we would be lucky to win 3 games. We went to the playoffs.