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He may have been out of work for a year?? Or was just the delta in salaries he was after? Don't know? Maybe that's a common practice that teams do. Guy gets fired; owed say $1mil as a head coach for three years. New team hires him as position coach or coord., maybe normal salary for that type of job is say around $500k. (unless of course it's Washington) But since old team is on the hook for his salary new team gives him four year deal with first three years being real low number say $250k and real high fourth year. So first three years costs the new team very little, then the fourth year new teams pays him alot. Who knows maybe teams even make fourth year voidable?? Coach goes along wit has he knows for the next three years he's gettign a real high salary based on job he's hired for and knows in this business so much can change quickly anyway. No idea if any of this is true, pure speculation, but system certainly could be manipulated in such a way. And if all the teams are doing it no one really complains as it all comes around and eventually all the teams benefit from former deals. Coaches aren't part of a union who would sue over practice, so continues. As an added bonus for Buffalo, they may not even have to deflate their normal salary offers!

He'd be paid the difference between the contracts. Say he was signed for 2009 to make $1.5 mil. Another team signs him to be def back coach at $.5 mil. RW then has to cough up the extra $1 mil that DJ lost. However considering RW pays his coaches low, if DJ gets another job, there's a good chance another club would pay him enough that RW's share wouldn't be too large. Then again the other side to that argument could be the other team pays him low knowing the Bills make up the difference. Either way to answer your question RW pays the difference.

That's not what happend with Wade Phillips. RW wanted him to fire the special teams coach, he refused to RW fired Wade. I kind of think that's more RW style try to make demands until DJ does resign. That may have kind of been what happend with MM when Marv showed up. Based on past history demanding a new coach or two is exactly what RW has done.

Agree, Totally irrelevant! The difference between Bills fans and the battered wife is the battered wife may have other options. She can hope there may be a better man out there for her and in most cases there is. Since you bring this example up, lets just assume for a second there are 31 other guys in her neighborhood all filthy rich, all with wives who on a 1 to 10 scale half are 11's and the other half are in the 7 to 8 range. And instead of a neighborhood, lets assume it's a deserted island that these 32 couples live on with little chance of any newcomers showing up unless someone washes ashore. Now we have live in the NFL! This battered wife though is about a 2 and getting older and uglier every day. So she has a choice leave the battering husband and convince hereself that one of these other 31 millionaires is going to dump their 11 for her, or maybe some other millionaire out of the blue will show up and rather than try to woo one of the 11's away they are going to fall in love with the ugly stepchild and marry her and live happily ever after. Or she can face reality and realize her choices are continue being the battered wife or leave him and spend the rest of her life alone. But at least she's smart enough to know one of these other guys with the trophy wives isn't coming for her. So in the case of the Bill's staying the battered wife is the only choice or be along. Bufflao is not getting a second chance! If you'd rather have the Bill's leave and have no team here, that's fine, no problem with that, but if you think forcing RW out will bring another team in, you're delusional. So if you want to stop being the doormat as you call it and walk out, fine, just don't expect him to come and beg you to return, cause the door will be locked behind you.

This article is all bull. Everyone here knows the real truth about the entire conspiricey.

They did a great job in St Louis. Unfortunately the rail was large enough to pack the team on it too and they all went to Az. Ditto for Houston, or should I say Tenn. Fortunately for them the Rams showed up on their doorstep and the NFL decided they wanted a team located in one of the ten largest cities in the county so Houston got a second chance. If you think that's going to happen here, you're out of your mind. If the Bill's leave, they are gone forever.

WOW, stats like that will get you to the pro bowl. So if 6 for 8 is fine, then can you explain to me what NE's passing game is all about?

Yes he can sign it Most often players don't as they expect to get more on the market. In Greers case unlikely so if I were him, I'd sign the offer right away. Then the Bills are stuck with it. In most cases the tender offer is less than the player will get on open maket, so if he did sign the offer the team who frnachised him isn't getting a bad deal So as was stated prior, you ONLY do this IF you're willing to pay him $9mil. One comment regarding upcapped year. There are so many restrictions still in place with the uncapped year, who knows the exact mpact. For example players need six years to be considered a UFA as opposed to four. BTW with Peters coming back when he did this season, does he now qualify as UFA? I think he does??

But it does take effect IF the player signs the tender. Usually players don't sign it as they assume they will get a better offer. In this case if the Bill's franchise me, I'd immediately sign the tender as that like would be the best offer he's ever see. So doubt that will work.

I don't think they'd get any where near that much as while teams may be willing to make the trade as they get exclusive rights with him, they also no NE can't keep bot hand are forced to make a trade, so the value goes down. I also believe that betwen the time they franchise him and trade him, NE is one the hook for that much money and that would count agaisnt the cap, thus preventing them from signing other FA, or making other moves. I know even during off season, you can't be over the cap for any given day.

The other good thing that will come of that, whether it be this off season or next., it will set the Jets back some as who's their next starting QB? I think they have some young guy, but now got no experience at this season. My prediction is he comes back one more year, as I think the Jets will try to talk him into it as they don't want to see all their effort be gone after one year. They probably will promise him all kinds of help , recievers etcto improve the offense. And I think he'll want to try and prove all the nay-sayers wrong who are as in this thread stating GB was right.

I don't know, I almost think the opposite. We have decent depth as long as they are in a back up role, but when we asked some to start do to injuries, we struggled. The two spots that seemed to kill us were the injuries to Reed and Butler. So maybe with a replacement for both those spots, and take the current starters and make them backups we'd be OK

HomerTv replace Stooge TV, but that also appears to be gone.

Well then you could make the same argument that if TE was on a team with better coaches, you'd see more from him too. You're right he did regress, but only because he started his 2nd year playing much better than most expected. I wouldn't call that regressed. He also has played much better at many times to give up on him. Is he the answer, I don't know, but I do know at times he's looked great , played as well as maybe the top 10 QB's in the league. While JP has show promise at times, (though not at al lthis season) I can't recall JP ever looking like a top QB, just more a case where IF he kept improving he might become good. I alo am a person who at the time was lobbying for JP, but have given up. I also do see TE doing many things than JP never did. Is weather a concern with TE, yes, but certianly not anywhere near ready to give up on him yet.

More money in being a Senator in Ill.....Oh wait that's Governour.

At the beginning of this season, I'd have agreed, but now, I will be surprised if he goes int ocamp anything more than a #3. But wit ha little luck and some injuries, not to say by year end, he could be playing. And watch he'll come back and beat Buffalo by throwing a fade into the endzone late in the game.

Going into the season, based on what JP has shown, I thought he was alright as a backup. How many teams have better backups based on JP's 2007 stats? If you had money to spend there were more important places to spend it too. I also thought ihs play in the Arizona game was OK for a backup. But the past 2 1/2 games, he's been horrendous. Is it because he doesn't care? I have trouble believing that as he himself stated, these games were for resume building. Not sure what the problem is, but yes in hindsight, keeping him was a mistake, but at the time, didn't seem that bad of a decision.

JP was/is a good guy, just not good at what he's being paid to do. QB! While some are arguing why did we keep him this year as a #2 , he could have demanded a release and/or trade, but again he was willing to play out his contract. In fairness, he did play well enough last year to justify bringing him back as the #2. Many here argued he should have been starting when TE struggled. But what he has done this year on the field, I don't think even the biggest JP critique(sp) could have imagined him playing as bad as he has. I wouldn't surprise me to see him out of football next year. Though there was room for Rob Johnson, so anything is possible

Everyone keeps saying that, but the only time the line has looked good is when Butler is playing. I wouldn't be too quick to replace him. I will say, while our pass blocking has been good, our run blocking is still not as good as you'd hope.

Well the way JP was playing at the end of the 06 season, there was no need to draft another QB in the 1st round. At the end of 2006, JP appeared to be coming on and improving. Since it did make sense to pick a QB in a later round, the TE pick was smart. Then 2007 starts, JP goes backwards, TE looked decent in pre-seaosn, coupled with JP's injury, opened the door for TE. And he we are. Who was our #2 QB in 05 Holcomb?

Thats an interesting thought, though I believe he could refuse any job other than coach as that is what he signed a contract to do (assuming it is signed). I do think DJ would be the type of guy who'd agree to it though, so will see, but I will be surprised if he is back. I agree wit hanother post, RW does want to win as muc has any owner in the legue, he just isn't willing to pay for it as easily as other will. But will see what happens.

I wouldn't say the line has looked great, but I do agree that will all the starters in it hasn't been too bad. I also agree that no center in round #1 if for no other reason, centers usually don't value a #1 pick. 2nd or 3rd round I'm fine with it, or wouldn't mind picking up a free agent center as would more likely be usable right away. I would keep Preston as a back up along with Chambers, that rookie, Bell is it, was supposed to look pretty good. Maybe pick up one other backup interior reserve, plus a center 2nd round or later (or FA) and I'm OK with that.

Where's the dishonesty? The Bills haven't stated anything specific, that doesn't make it dishonest. The problem with everything around here, same with DJ's extension is, fan's seem to think it's their right to know everything that's going on, that the Bill's are obligated to tell all about everything when it's in their best interest to state nothing. You can argue that we're the ones buying the tickets, but it's no difference than when you go buy a piece of software from Microsoft, that doesn't give you the right to know everything they are doing in research, or if you stay in a hotel, demand to know their cleaning processes of the rooms. You do have a choice, don't support the product, but you don't have any rights to be told more than the Bill's wish to tell you. I do realize that the less they tell you leads to more speculation, but that's all it is, pure speculation and nothing more.

My bet is he's fired extension or not. Assuming he signed an extension worth $2mil per year, assume an average ticket price of $60 each, that equals 33000 tickets per season or jus over 4000 per game. As has been mentioned, RW may be cheap, but not dumb. I also think RB will warn him that he'll easily lose that in ticket sales if he does nothing. Everyone is assuming RW is cheap based on prior coaching choices. However when you consider the past two people hiring the past three coaches, you have to question who's idea was it, RW or the gm? From everything stated TD didn't want to hire a big name coach who could upstage him, so he went both times with a no-name and as a bonus came with low pay. Marv wanted someone he could talk to and wasn't going to get into any shouting matches with him, and things along those lines (i.e. no Jimmy Johnson or even a Brian Billick type), so again selected a low key guy without a large ego, which usally means lower pay too. On one hand it wouldn't shock me to see RW again go cheap, but maybe he is willing to take one last shot at going out on top. The other thing that Miami could show him is it doesn't take years to turn it around. I don't think many here would disagree that right now the Bill's have more talant than Miami did last year at this point, and look how quick they moved on top. I don't think RW is nearly as bad as many here make him out to be and does want to win.

In todays NFL, how many QB's make it rhough a year without any injury time. I'll bet less than half. It's also possible had these games meant something he might be playing through it right now. I do agree there is reason for concern regarding injuries and playing ability. But at this point, I'm more interested ot see if he can really play.