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Agreed. Neck injuries aren't nothing to mess with. Especially when you're the kind of RB that he is. If he wanted to go, he'd have definitely at least been RB3 for somebody. We take it for granted sometimes as fans as soon as we see the thumbs up - often wondering how long it will be before they're back on the field. But I can't imagine how terrifying it must be, even for a few seconds, to not be able to move or lose the feeling in your extremities. I hope there's no long term damage done and he just got out because he realized there's more to life than Football and didn't want to experience that again. Safe and happy travels, Damien!
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Harrison would require 3 1st's and probably more. You aren't getting a team to move from 4 to 28, giving up a generational level talent at a position of need for Arizona, beating out the teams looking to get up in that area for a QB, and with the knowledge that we consistently pick between 25 and 30 for anything less than that. People like to quote the Cleveland-Atlanta trade for Julio Jones as comparison. That was 15 picks. Or the Buffalo-KC trade for Patrick Mahomes. That was 17 picks. This is 24. As I've said before, when it comes to trading into the Top 5 when there's heavy competition and generational talent in play like Harrison - you can throw the ole' Trade value chart out the window. It would have to be an overpay and probably a substantial one to make that kind of move.
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I figured he would come back as our Practice Squad QB. With Russell Wilson and Justin Fields in house - that's pretty much his ceiling in Pittsburgh anyways.
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And I've mentioned this a couple times before, but imagine if Minnesota had spent a boat load of picks to trade up to Draft a higher ranked prospect instead of staying put and taking the 5th WR off the board in Justin Jefferson. It's no guarantee the higher rated prospect at any position in any class is going to end up the better NFL player. It's practically irresponsible to pay a King's Ransom for a "better" WR in a class that has (in my book) EIGHT WR's with a 1st Round grade.
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Nope. And beyond that John Lynch today said they're currently negotiating back and forth (thus the tweet) and that he has no interest in moving him.
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A Diggs pre-6/1 trade exists as a reality only in your own head.
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https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39807778/49ers-gm-aiyuk-not-available-trade-contract-talks-underway
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Okay - then in you and I knowing that, why would you suggest "This won’t fly with the too small slot only people"? I fundamentally disagree with what we have and what we don't have on the roster, that a pure slot (and that's what Corley is) is in play for us at even 60. In Samuel (a 50+% Slot guy), Shakir (a pure slot), and Kincaid (playing as a big slot moreso than at TE with his hand in the dirt) - we are absolutely LOADED there already. Even Diggs lines up in the Slot sometimes. There's a major reason why players who are considered pure slots or even 50/50 guys are looked down upon here as options and "aren't allowed to be talked about", as you put it. It doesn't fit to "offset" what we have, as Beane talked about yesterday. Corley is not someone you can play on the Outside in the Pro's, even a little bit. Steve Smith, who's his biggest cheerleader even said so.
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You're most likely going to be extremely disappointed then. There's an outside chance of BTJ, though it's unlikely. The others are a pipe dream. As we get closer, you get more unrealistic. I'd focus on BTJ as the ceiling of a potential trade up or potential fall, then Mitchell, Legette, Worthy, and McConkey. It's incredibly unlikely (borderline foolish) to give up a multiple 1st's plus more for a better prospect when there's multiple 1st Round talents available to us wherein we have to give up nothing. A higher rated prospect doesn't guarantee that they'll be the best Pro player. We did that for Sammy Watkins when we could have just drafted OBJ. The Vikings could have traded up from where they were to take a higher rated prospect instead of staying where they were and Drafting WR5 in Justin Jefferson.
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We send scouts to look at most everyone with Pro Potential. Even if it's someone who isn't likely to be Drafted by us because of what's on our roster now. It's part of the information gathering we do on players not only for the Draft, but in the years that follow in the Free Agency and Trade market. Scouting players and keeping files on guys isn't exclusive to just that year's Draft.
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Malachi Corley wasn't at the Combine.
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Great player, but pure slot. He'll be a good one for somebody, but isn't a fit for us this year.
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Bills sign a safety!!!! Mike Edwards a Bill
BillsFanForever19 replied to DJB's topic in The Stadium Wall
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As I've said, people are misconstruing what this means. You can be a boundary WR, who has smarts, and versatility. Versatility doesn't mean specifically a Tweener type. It just means, like Diggs is, you can line them up wherever you want in different formations. You can put them in motion. These are things that you can do with Thomas Jr., Mitchell, and Legette. He also said he wants a player that offsets what he has in the same discussion. That to me was the bigger thing in the discussion, as it's pretty clear what we have and don't have in the WR core right now. The versatility thing is just standard operating procedure.
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Mock Draft - Post Combine & First Wave Of FA - Updated On Page 2
BillsFanForever19 replied to H2o's topic in The Stadium Wall
I'm with you 100% there. People can be concerned over him being 10 months older than McConkey and staying in College for Year 5 before getting his opportunity and blowing up when he did. But he checks EVERY single box, and by a large margin in some, literally everywhere else. You don't get that kind of freak athletic traits with versatility and tape where we're picking every year. -
Mock Draft - Post Combine & First Wave Of FA - Updated On Page 2
BillsFanForever19 replied to H2o's topic in The Stadium Wall
I'd be very disappointed if we went with Franklin in Round 1, without a trade down, and especially over Mitchell or Legette. I don't think McConkey is a fit for what we're looking for, but I'd be much happier if they chose him there than Franklin. I worry about Keon Coleman's 40 time and separation ability, but I think i'd even like Coleman slightly more than Franklin. I liked Franklin before the Combine after just watching highlights, thinking he was 6'3" like he was listed, and that he had all world speed close to Worthy. Then I watched more than just the highlights. He's got some real lowlights, if you will. Some of the guys I trust at Cover 1 agree that he was over hyped to begin with. Then the Combine happened. And it was as bad as bad can get for a prospect. Everything that made him appeal to me as a 1st Round Prospect was dispelled. Everything that gave me concern watching him on tape was highlighted. Measuring 2 inches shorter than expected. Weighing in 15 lbs. less than expected. His hands being less than 9". Clocking in on the 40 way less than Worthy and being beat out by a number of WR's he was expected to smoke. His 10 yard split was LAST among all WR's tested. Highlighting his trouble getting off the line on tape with his speed being long gaining speed, lacking burst at the point of attack. And his drills on field were laughably bad, leading to Daniel Jeremiah calling him out on the telecast. It seems now everyone who's a fan based on his YouTube highlight videos feel that should all be ignored bc he was reportedly sick. Okay. But that doesn't explain away his body measurements. And if his illness made him slower - why did he stand on his Combine times at his Pro Day? Troy Franklin is my WR10 at this point. Outside of the top 3 that are long gone, I have 5 other WR's with a 1st Round grade. Troy Franklin isn't one of them. If we went elsewhere in Round 1 and got him in Round 2 - that's fine. At 28 and above Mitchell, Legette, or even McConkey? No way. -
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Brandon Beane Addresses Media - NFL Annual Meeting
BillsFanForever19 replied to Warriorspikes51's topic in The Stadium Wall
He stayed an extra year in College because he never got an opportunity before Year 5 at South Carolina. When he was given his opportunity, he more than flourished. As such, he just turned 23 - instead of the standard Senior Age of 22. He won't turn 24 until 2025. This is massively overblown. If this is such a big issue, wouldn't Ladd McConkey being only 10 months younger be a problem? -
Brandon Beane Addresses Media - NFL Annual Meeting
BillsFanForever19 replied to Warriorspikes51's topic in The Stadium Wall
This is fundamentally incorrect. Legette had 141 snaps out of the Slot last season and is also used in motion. Versatility doesn't mean we're specifically looking for a tweener. In versatility, he's discussing the ability, if they so choose, to be able to be lined up wherever they choose on any given play. Further speaking to the comment of versatility, he also said it can't be something that creates "offset". With Curtis Samuel, Khalil Shakir, and Dalton Kincaid - we are LOADED at the Slot/Tweener role. A primarily Outside WR can still have versatility. And Xavier Legette does have that. -
We have not taken a step back.
BillsFanForever19 replied to SoonerBillsFan's topic in The Stadium Wall
I think it's possible, if not likely that Defensive End is addressed the same way it was last year. Looking over the list of Defensive Ends still available (and possibly who's let go after the Draft) - I think there's a good chance someone will be available when Tre's money comes in. Considering the lack of depth in the Draft and where we're picking, DE seems like a sound place to allocate some of Tre's money when it comes in. It wouldn't surprise me if RB is also handled the same way. I think this time around they will Draft a guy and it wouldn't shock me if it were something that they took higher than expected. But if it doesn't fall the way they'd like, I could see him calling up a RB on Draft Day to play the same "let us know if you're in or we'll take a RB here" game we played with Murray last season. All in all, I think he's done a good job and will have everything covered when it's all said and done. But to say we're the same or improved in certain spots already is putting the carriage before the horse a bit. -
That's fair. I just think reading it to clearly mean guys who lean Slot like Wilson for example are now *specifically* the target is just as narrow of a way of looking at things and I personally don't agree with that assertion. As for the D-Line at 28 idea - I think it's very possible. If someone like Byron Murphy and Johnny Newton at DT or Laiatu Latu at DE are available, they're very likely the pick. The thing is, odds are that like Thomas, none of them are likely to be available at 28. And outside of them, there isn't an option worth taking at 28. If they do manage to get one of those 3, I wouldn't hate it. They had better make sure though that they can get up from 60 if they do for a WR. As we'd be very lucky to even get Ja'Lynn Polk at that point. The position is deep, but there's going to be a big time drop between 28 and 60. If we went DL at 28 and then didn't move up from 60 and missed out on the Top 11 WR's - that I WOULD hate.
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"Does their skillet offset what is already on the roster?" is what's most important here in what they view in terms of versatility, in my opinion. In Diggs, you have a primarily Outside WR that you can move around. In Kincaid, you have a guy that you primarily use as a Big Slot that you also put on the line as a TE a good percentage of the time. In Shakir, you have a pure Slot. People like to try and project him on the Outside. But when we lined him up there at times last season when Davis went down, it didn't yield the results he got in the Slot. In Samuel, you have a guy who works mainly from the Slot, but is a tweener. 53.3% from the Slot under Brady in 2020, 68.7% from the Slot last season. In wanting versatility, I think it still sways more towards an Outside WR that has versatility like Diggs rather than a versatile player that is viewed as a 50% or more from the Slot in the NFL type of guy. We're absolutely loaded with those type of guys right now and it "offsets" them. Guys like McConkey, Corley, Wilson, and Pearsall sway more (and with some WAY more) towards the Slot than Outside, in terms of their versatility.
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Brandon Beane Addresses Media - NFL Annual Meeting
BillsFanForever19 replied to Warriorspikes51's topic in The Stadium Wall
I don't remember seeing it happening commonly or in recent memory. But good to know. I do think it's not something we have plans on. If it were, I feel we would have brought him back on a new contract fairly soon after cutting him. As you said, I see it more of a situation where if he has no options and is willing to take a largely incentive deal for a non-guaranteed role - we'd revisit it. But I don't know how likely that is and would hope he has a better opportunity both financially and playing time wise, as much as I'd like him to remain a Bill. -
Brandon Beane Addresses Media - NFL Annual Meeting
BillsFanForever19 replied to Warriorspikes51's topic in The Stadium Wall
I don't see Tre as much of a possibility this year. I could be wrong as I'm not 100% sure, but I don't think you can release a player as a June 1st cut for 10m in savings and then get him back in the same offseason and still keep the savings for not having him on the roster and have him on the roster at the same time. And if that is the case, I don't think we're going to negate 10m in savings. I feel as though it was more of a "possibly someday" discussion. I think we view him as a if he has no options and we can get him as a depth and reclamation project on an incentive deal, we'd revisit it. But if we had plans for him, we wouldn't have cut him and he wouldn't be taking visits elsewhere. -
Brandon Beane Addresses Media - NFL Annual Meeting
BillsFanForever19 replied to Warriorspikes51's topic in The Stadium Wall
Wild to hear Beane and Lynch hopped on a zoom call together with the league to confront officials on a unified front about the both of them being screwed in the Comp formula. Sounds as though they're now counting in void years and funny money into the equation and not just the standard cap figure. Kind of BS that they just decided to do that on a whim retroactively instead of implementing it going forward. Glad to hear he did everything he could to fight it, rough to hear that it didn't matter.- 93 replies
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