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Has any reporter posted a full list of the players that sat out today, beyond just the starters?

I had him as WR10 leading into the Draft. I took a lot of flack for it. But during the Draft, even I was surprised he fell as far as he did. I had him as a mid-late 2nd Round Pick. When I watched him, what I saw was someone who had a flashy looking highlight reel. But down to down, I saw a guy who's speed didn't come until late in the route. He had a hard time at the line, often against non-NFL level Cornerbacks. Then he came to the Combine and solidified that with the worst 10 yard split of anyone, including Keon Coleman. And then a slower than expected 40. And unimpressive jumps. And the worst route running at a Combine that I've maybe ever seen, specifically in the gauntlet. He tried to argue it was because he was sick... but then he stood by his times at his Pro Day instead of re-testing. That was extremely head scratching to me. If you're saying you tested poorly bc you were sick, why wouldn't you do it over at your Pro Day? It came out later that on top of his film (which again, I thought was over hyped on this board) and poor physical testing - he also bombed the interviews. Reportedly not impressing team officials to a point where they wondered if he even likes playing Football. Even after all that, we brought him back in to have a workout do-over in Buffalo, which is almost unheard of for a Draft Prospect of his caliber. The fact that we weren't interested even at the bottom of Round 3 says to me, nothing changed with that workout. When you take that all into account, it's not surprising to me that he fell to the 4th Round. I wonder how far he would have fell if Denver had not taken him? As I think the fact that they Drafted his QB Bo Nix in Round 1 played a major factor. The fact that they are now thinking of red shirting him after spending a high 4th Round Pick on him (as you don't often see a Rookie above mid Round 5 getting that designation) and even pairing him with the QB he found success with in College?... yick. In my opinion, people really need to stop talking about him as an unforgivable missed opportunity. He simply was never the Draft prospect certain people around here made him out to be Pre-Draft.

That's not going to happen. We don't have the money to take on their contract and don't have the ways to come up with that money. You have to be able to take on their current contract before you can restructure it.

We don't need another Slot. Samuel, Kincaid, Shakir are our top known WR's. All most naturally suited for the Slot. If we were to add anything, it would be someone who would be an upgrade to Hollins or MVS - opposite Coleman.

The ship has passed on any big move like Aiyuk, Adams, or Lamb. When we started the Offseason, analysts listed all the different moves we could do to come up with the most cap space possible. We released, re-structured, or extended everyone we had that was an option to do to get where we could already. Save for two moves: a re-structure of Ed Oliver and Matt Milano. Milano was obviously not done because they wanted to see how he bounced back from injury. Considering what happened to him, they're *definitely* not going to do that now. As for a second Josh re-structure, I wouldn't hold my breath. I don't know why he didn't do the full amount. But if he wanted to take more than he did there, he'd have done it then when we were trying to find money anywhere we could. And he's *never* re-structured a contract twice in the same offseason. We could still restructure Ed Oliver and save 3.9m. Added to what we have, that would bring us to 11.4m. But we have to subtract around 6 from that for the cost of the Practice Squad and the In Season Spending Pool. So even with an Oliver re-structure, we'd only have about 5.5m to spend. The problem with a Trade is that you have to take on the contract from the trading team for the trade to be approved. Meaning if you can't take on the cap hit of their current contract, the trade won't go through with the league. Most people miss this fact and just say "we can renegotiate or extend them and make Year 1 peanuts". That's only something you can do after you've taken on their current deal, without going over the cap. And when it comes to Aiyuk, Adams, and Lamb - we simply don't have the space and can't come up with it to get a trade approved. Exactly this. If we're to add anyone right now, it would be someone from this list. And I'd add Isaiah McKenzie as a possible cut that they may bring in to the Practice Squad in a pinch.

Just from a contract standpoint, that's fairly obvious. They gave Kyle a 1 year deal for 1m with 350k guaranteed. They gave Mitch a 2 year deal worth 3m with 2.7m guaranteed, when they could have re-signed Kyle instead. If Kyle is released and if Mitch isn't ready to roll Week 1, I can see us bringing him back on the Practice Squad and activating him until Mitch is ready. But make no mistake about it, Mitch is our Backup and is going to be our Backup - like it or not.

At the moment, yes. But most teams only keep 2 on the Main Roster these days and he isn't making it over Russell Wilson or Justin Fields. It's almost a forgone conclusion he'll be cut. Either way, the reported issue for Mitch is a 3-4 week injury and Week 1 will be 3 weeks from the injury. Fans who are hoping for something bigger or him to be replaced are setting themselves up for disappointment.

Last thing I saw (tweet from the "Thigh Doctor") suggests he'll probably be ready to go Week 1. If he isn't, they'd probably just grab Kyle Allen back for a week or two after he's let go.

Seems like he's mobile: https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Anthony-Brown-QB-Oregon

Nothing announced beyond his signing.

Just an arm for the Pre-Season with Mitch down. But he'll have a chance to compete with DiNucci for the Practice Squad QB, with Buechele on IR.

If you condense the set, someone is still going to be on the Outside lined up on a Boundary CB.

I get the feeling Tannehill is happy sitting at home and waiting for a starter to get injured or for someone to pay his number. He's not on the couch just hoping for any backup job. If that were the case, someone would have signed him by now.

There's a number of teams in the league that have a starting QB problem. Most teams in the league have an underwhelming Backup QB. That's why they're Backup QB's in a league that doesn't have 32 good starters. @FireChans put it best:

You aren't going to have Samuel, Shakir, and Kincaid split out alone. You can do that in 4 WR sets, but I don't think you'll see it alone. If you do, it won't be a regular thing. Samuel is a Tweener that you can split Out on the perimeter half the time. Shakir and Kincaid are pure slots from the WR position. So you're pretty much always going to have at least one of Coleman and Hollins on the Outside. As to whom has the upper leg as the first Outside guy between the two, I assume it's Coleman. But it may be a 50/50 split to start the year. In standard two WR's on the Outside sets, it'll be One of Coleman and Hollins with Samuel on the other side half the time. The other half it'll be Coleman and Hollins with Samuel on the Inside or out of the Backfield. Nothing about his prior usage or what Beane has said about Samuel suggests he'll be used on the Outside more than 50% of the time. And that's the problem with our current room. Our top 3 known commodities are all best served working out of the Slot. But you can't have more than 2 people working out of the slot at once and even putting 2 on requires 4 WR sets, which you aren't going to regularly run.

Damn. Figured we took a look with Claypool going down and things looking underwhelming outside of the top few guys. Now with MVS taking what looked like at least a bad concussion, I figured we'd re-visit this.

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Again, they paid him approximately 3m guaranteed on a 2 year contract. They aren't giving him even a fraction of the playbook to play with. They know what he is and what he isn't. Did you see Kyle Allen last year? Mitch isn't getting cut. They aren't going to go with a guy who may or may not be slightly better who has to learn the playbook on the fly.

They're starting Andreesen for all 4 quarters at MLB. They really like this kid.

Maybe in the court of fan public opinion. But like poor Pre-Season play from Kyle Allen and Case Keenum before him, the play of a Practice Squad QB (especially one joining the team this late) in the 2nd half of Pre-Season games means nothing. Trubisky has years of experience and was signed to a 2 year, 5.25m dollar contract with about 3m guaranteed. He's not going to be cut for Ben DiNucci.

MVS down. Call back Corey Davis.

The Line is blocking terribly and they aren't opening up the playbook at all. I'm not saying he's great. But the Backups always look like hot garbage in the Pre-Season league wide. Most everyone in the league has a "Backup QB Problem". Hell, a fair amount have a "Starting QB Problem". As I've said a number of times, good QB's don't make it to Free Agency. And the halfway decent backup QB's are going to go to teams that: a.) Are Drafting a QB that may sit a little while where they can be a bridge. b.) Have nothing at QB and can't Draft one and they'll get a shot in a competition. c.) Have someone they've Drafted recently that hasn't really impressed yet. d.) Have a vet who really hasn't looked good lately (like a Daniel Jones) e.) Have a QB who is injured (like Watson) or coming off injury. f.) Have a QB that is often injured. None of these apply. So we'll never be a landing spot for QB's on the market. It just is what it is.

The return game being what it is now, practically no one's done anything impressive league wide the past couple weeks. It seems they're doing all they can to all but eliminate it from the game. I'm not looking to put someone on the roster as a Return guy first and foremost. Do you have a role on Offense or Defense as a non starter? Can we put you back there? The jobs yours.

Definitely seems so. I was just saying it was shocking to me that he was the guy they started as next man up with Bernard sitting. And he is looking good out there. Wild that a Rookie Minicamp Tryout guy looks like he's going straight to the 53.

Joe Andreesen taking all the starting reps at MLB is eye opening. I didn't realize he was impressing that much to be the first guy up with Bernard sitting.