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I don't have a problem with Clayton. That makes sense to me as a long term development Draft Pick. Everyone else from that list is completely expendable. Shane Buechele was replaced by Mike White. I don't see any scenario where we keep 4 QB's when he's healthy or that he should be kept over Trubisky or White. Darrynton Evans is at best RB5. As it is, Frank Gore Jr. isn't even on the Roster. Dee Delaney and Terrell Burgess - I don't think we need to use cap space to keep one of them, let alone both. Like Evans as RB5 - these guys are S8 and S9. We've got the 5 guys we have on the Roster (which is a lot already). And then we've got Kareem Jackson and Lewis Cine on the Practice Squad. I realize injuries happen during the season and it's good to call up on guys who had Training Camp and have had the Playbook. But we'd have to take a lot of injuries to get down to these type of guys being necessary as depth. And ultimately, they'd almost definitely be sitting on the market to grab when they get healthy anyways.

Hamlin starting out of the gate isn't eye popping to me. Bishop and Edwards missed all of Training Camp. They're not going to start one of them on Mental Reps alone. I'd doubt it's going to stay that way after a few weeks, unless Hamlin surprisingly impresses. The surprising things to me are Samuel starting on the Outside and Ray Davis being 3rd on the RB depth chart. I suppose Samuel starting on the Outside doesn't necessarily mean that's where he's staying exclusively. He could take half the reps there and switch to the slot when Samuel or Kincaid is off the field and have Coleman or MVS in his spot. Davis being RB3 is bothersome to me. It screams the McDermott way of bringing Rookies along slowly. I don't want another Rookie situation where he's treating Davis as an afterthought until Year 2. If he's showing what he showed in the Pre-Season, I would really hate if Ty Johnson stayed cemented as the change of pace back.

This is why when people were talking about what to do with our Cap Space during Training Camp I was saying we don't have any. Paying 2.64m to keep those players on IR instead of releasing them is kinda baffling though.

We already massively redid Von's deal. He basically took a large pay cut that he didn't have to. I highly doubt they'd do anything else to his deal. There was a long list of moves we could do as far as releases, restructures, or likely extensions that were reported en masse by the media prior to Free Agency when we were MASSIVELY over the cap. I compiled a list. And we did every single one of them (that Beane was going to do), save for two. The only two moves we didn't do was a restructure to Ed Oliver's contract and a restructure to Matt Milano's contract. I think they didn't do Milano bc they wanted to see how he bounced back from injury first. Considering what happened, I don't think you're going to see it. But Oliver is still a restructure candidate. I'm sure someone's going to bring up Josh's contract. Not impossible, but I just don't see it. He's never restructured a deal twice in the same season. Idk why he didn't take the full amount he could - but I think if he was going to, he'd have done it then.

Why does it matter where it happened? How is it funny? Thankfully, he's in Stable Condition. Hopefully he recovers without any lasting damage.

I mean, if you're saying grown adults that treat 20 something reps in nothing Pre-Season games as the be all, end all of roster building are akin to little kids believing in Santa Claus - sure.

It marvels me how every single year posters treat Pre-Season games like they're the regular season. In the end, they're practically meaningless. But every year, even some respected posters, get up and arms about some late round pick or UDFA not making the roster because they liked what they saw in a short sample size in nothing games. If a player isn't winning over the coaches in meetings, showing flaws in Practice, aren't getting a grasp of the full playbook, and/or they've already got guys they like more for the number they're going to keep - a few good plays against other guys who are going to be cut in the second half of Pre-Season games means nothing. We aren't there every second of the day like the decision makers to see these things like they are. These "Hard Knocks" stories, as you put it almost always have the same ending. We cut them, people fret over us not being able to get them back, and 99% of the time we do. Bc the league values them the same as our evaluators do.

Virgil's a couple years younger and I think they believe he a.) Is a better player right now and/or b.) Has more upside. Cain is a guy who has been a UFL player the past couple years. He had a decent 2023 in the UFL and got a chance with Philadelphia in Training Camp last season. He was cut and not brought back to anyone's Practice Squad. So he went back to the UFL in 2024. He wasn't given a chance with anyone until we called him off the couch couple weeks ago. So they probably feel pretty comfortable no one's going to pick him up and we could bring him back anytime we want. Virgil's a guy who made the Broncos 53 as an Undrafted Rookie. He's dealt with injuries, but there's something there that the Broncos and possibly other teams wanted him as well. He's a bigger commodity right now.

Yeah, I got got by a fake Schefter account - thus the "for real this time" in the post. I got my 'For You' and 'Following' tabs mixed up and didn't pay close enough attention to the handle and generally don't get fake posts recommended to me even in the 'For You' tab.

(for real this time)

I was born in 84, so I only have very vague memories of when the WCW show on Turner Broadcasting was still using NWA branding.

Did you mean NWO or are you one of those old heads that still referred to WCW as the NWA during the Monday Night Wars? 😆

It's done. But with the unexpected addition of Lewis Cine this morning, we had to cut a WR to do it. Deon Cain released.

It was confirmed, but then refuted. I think it's probably happening, but it's not 100% yet.

Yeah, it's just the same chart from the beginning of Training Camp but with the players who were cut and removed from the Roster page taken out. I think when they were removed from the Website, they just automatically got removed from the Depth Chart.

So only carry 5 LB's so we can have 7 CB's (more like 8 with Cam Lewis being a CB and S) and 12 DB's total?

There goes that.

Another year of people disagreeing with cuts and fearing we can't get them back on the Practice Squad. Another year of getting all those players back on the Practice Squad.

He only had one year where he had more than 30 targets the entire season, in 2022. It was a 690 yard season. Like I said in my OP, I don't think he's Jerry Rice or some great Pro Bowl WR. But he did show something after leaving Philadelphia to still be in the league and produced fairly recently. To just list 4 or 5 year old tweets when he was busting off his first team, painting him as just that, and completely dismissing what he did in Las Vegas - isn't telling the whole story and as such, is disingenuous. If all he did was be the guy from the tweets you cherry picked from close to a half decade ago, he'd be out of the league by now.

I'm not saying the guy is Jerry Rice or anything. But cherry picking tweets from 4-5 years ago and before his years of improvement is extremely disingenuous.

Oh for sure! He's def a solid guy for when Trubisky's down. And maybe OP just meant upgrade over DiNucci or Brown. But I feel like White is/was talked about as a Trubisky replacement and that just isn't happening, whether people like it or not.

He'd be a Practice Squad guy. Trubisky isn't going anywhere on the contract they signed him to. Bad Pre-Season with a closed playbook changes nothing. They knew who he was when they signed him. Edit: Just noticed they did sign him to the PS.

Absolutely worth it. I'd be looking into it and releasing our 6th Defensive End or 4th Middle Linebacker if we could pull it off, if there's no one to PUP or IR.

I think people put way too much stock into Pre-Season games. I barely pay attention to them these days outside of who is unexpectedly running with 1's (like Andreessen) and who they're protecting, especially in the last game. Every year people fall in love with play against 3's in the 3rd and 4th Quarters and freak out that they didn't make it. It really doesn't matter how they perform if they're low man in the pecking order numbers wise. What they're seeing in Practice and how they're picking up the playbook weighs more than what they do in a Pre-Season game. There were a ton of people who wanted to cut Shakir in favor of Isabella last season just because he did more against guys who would be on the street in a week. I just go back to that if they felt Hardy was the stud he's being made out to be - they wouldn't have traded for Codrington. It's silly to look at 10 targets on a late 6th Round Pick against 2's and 3's and act like it's some insane miscarriage of justice that he didn't make it over someone with years of experience in the system.

And I'll admit, I didn't watch every Pre-Season snap or focus on him. They had him on the Outside? That's surprising to me as he was a Nickel Draft Prospect. Seems like it was just a numbers game. Behind Benford, Douglas, and Elam - they preferred Ingram and Lewis over him. Lewis being listed as a Safety, but would definitely be the next CB they call up if there were 1 or 2 injuries as he's played just as much there as Safety. So it came down to KR being the most important thing for that last spot. Especially when none of the WR's or Safeties are guys you'd put back there (maybe Shakir but they probably don't want to expose him to that). Or Codrington, who I know even less about, impressed them more at the CB position as well as KR duties.