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That is odd. Seems similar to Chimere Díke.

That's funny in this thread because Dareus had Ricky Williams type of potential.

Grant's been trending down in mocks. He could make it to 30 and even if he doesn't there's Tyleik and Collins and West and more. Unless it's a small move for a Harmon if he should make it to 25 or 26, nah. Certainly not worth spending a 1 and a 2.

The WOAT is back at it on NFL.com, namely Chad "Roto" Reuter, with another mock of a draft: https://www.nfl.com/news/five-round-2025-nfl-mock-draft-round-1 *** TRADE *** Bills trade #30+109 to Baltimore for #27 and something else not specified (they take Malaki Starks and Deone Walker) #27 Matthew Golden WR Texas - Why does every mock this guy does has the Bills trading up in the 1st using their high 4th? That said, if you think Golden is a top-15 guy I can understand the move. #56 Nic Scourton EDGE Texas A&M - hey, this isn't actually a bad pick. The first I can remember. #62 Joshua Farmer DT Florida - But it doesn't last. I wouldn't crap on this pick so much , except then he has KC taking Tyliek Williams at #63. The better player and the better fit. #132 Cobee Bryant CB Kansas - A guy who's been a faller through the entire pre-draft process and would have been pegged a 4th at best BEFORE all of that. This part of the draft kills me. Here's who comes off the board 133-168 after that reach: Omarr Norman-Lott, Billy Bowman, Saivion Jones, Caleb Ransaw, Jordan James, Zeek Biggers, CJ West, DJ Giddens, Malachi Moore, Kyle Williams, Ahmad Hassanein, Tahj Brooks. Any of them 1000% better than Cobee or trade-down at #132 - or easily justifying a trade-up using say 170 & 177. #169 Jaylen Reed S Penn State - Ok value, but a converted linebacker who plays like a converted linebacker. IOW more of what they got and not what they need. #170 Jackson Slater G Sacramento State - Ok value here. He'll play for someone after getting signed off the Bills' practice squad. It's a sneaky need. #173 Shaun Dolac LB Buffalo - Hometown boys are for UDFA, esp with Teddye Buchanan going 2 picks earlier. Seems lazy to me to peg him for the 5th round because you're only doing a 5 round mock. CB is still an infected wound on the roster. If I'm the GM and Golden shows up at #30 and he's clear BPA I grab him but I don't know about the move up when you've got guys on the board in Hairston, Amos, Revel, Kenneth Grant, Alfred Collins. Would I rather have Trey Amos + Kyle Williams + Deone Walker (pick #109 in the mock) than Golden and Cobee Freakin Bryant... yeah, I think I would. After plotting a lotta mocks there seems to be a few predominant paths for a successful draft for the Bills based on what they do with pick #30: 1) small trade up for an impact DT (Harmon), 2) Trade down 6-10 picks to gain an extra Day 2 pick and take one of Amos/Revel/Hairston, 3) stand pat and take your BPA.

if it gets things moving i'll take Ravens or Iggles or Packers

Pittsburgh could be open to a trade-down to recoup the 2nd spent for DK Metcalf, and has what could be a very interesting pick to the Bills in #21OA, depending on the board. Both teams are looking for help on the DL but run very different schemes. One such move could be something like #30+62+206 for #21+123 [Both 284 points by Rich Hill chart].

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Familiarity breeds contempt... Patriots Dolphins Jets

I think Amos is willing to tackle, his technique isn't terrific. Hairston, I worry more about him on that. I did like the physical traits Amos showed on tape in his ability to run, flip his hips, stay with receivers. His man-cover characteristics would probably be as good as the Bills have. He ticked the boxes at the combine. Would he be the pick if the Bills were set with 2 solid starters, maybe not. It's going to be worth a few points in the decision engine that the Bills have a void at the position. He may not be A-number-1 value at 30 but he's not a reach either.

I'm ok with a pick in the first 4 rounds being used on a safety, but maybe not 56. In retrospect that was a good slot to grab Swinson. If they can get a trade down scenario with 30 or 62 to get to end up with I hope will be 5 picks in the top 110, a guy like Billy Bowman in the 3rd/4th could be a nice get. If they stick with all the 5ths instead, Caleb Ransaw or your guy Kitan Crawford to develop.

Came here to ask that. Thurman went freakin off in that game. Edit: Art Still sighting! Edit 2: About 23:00 they're talking about Conrad Dobler, Al is talking about Dobler's book, "They Call Me Dirty." Dierdorf remarks "I'm just surprised it wasn't in crayon." Jets were a 2 point favorite in the game lol Edit 3: I just now realized they took away my Fruitful Bran Enjoying this way more than I should and having way more recalls from my youth than I should.

If the player is a difference maker you get him. The Bills have: box safety, box safety, FA signing Forrest who we haven't quanitifed, and Hamlin. There's a roster spot open to competition for a ball hawking deep half guy with a track record of big plays.

Enemy reports on the Bills draftees: https://steelersdepot.com/2025/01/2025-nfl-draft-scouting-report-ole-miss-cb-trey-amos/ https://steelersdepot.com/2025/02/2025-nfl-draft-scouting-report-notre-dame-s-xavier-watts/ https://steelersdepot.com/2025/02/2025-nfl-draft-scouting-report-florida-state-dl-joshua-farmer/ One of these is not like the others... also for comparison https://steelersdepot.com/2025/01/2025-nfl-draft-scouting-report-ole-miss-dl-walter-nolen/ https://steelersdepot.com/2025/01/2025-nfl-draft-scouting-report-texas-wr-isaiah-bond/

If I was, I'd be digging a moat after that one...

As far as draft picks go, that's one of them. I'm guessing that is was Kevin Winston Jr from Penn State that was actually "drafted"

My guy for that is Jackson Hawes. He may not quite be Lee Smith but he does a fair impersonation.

I just use Paint. Screen capture (Alt-PrintScreen), paste in paint (ctrl-v), select your box & ctrl-c to copy, paste it (ctrl-v) & crop, then if necessary resize till the select-all is < 200kb when you copy the image and paste to TSW with ctrl-v.

Similar but I'm going Burch. Physical traits he's very much like Myles Garrett except for the knuckle-dragging arm-length.

No intention to personally offend. I don't think yours was a valid rationale for the reasons given in the response, and just sounded to me like the traditional TSW murder of crows "Beane keeps reaching for position" (which may actually be a valid argument) with no additional explanation, and applying it to what has happened in TSW 1.0 - which really wasn't the case. So that's where you ended up taking the hit for it. The Bills lack of starting-level CB was a factor but not THE factor on Amos - he's widely regarded as a low-first/high-second propect. And Watts is right out. Ok, there's a justification. I liked what I saw on Amos' tape. The comparisons to Elam in an earlier thread, I'll call those lazy as well. The side-by-side highlights looked nothing alike. Amos is physical at the line, fluid in changing direction, and can plaster and mirror.

What about the guys not on the poll, was there anyone else (specifically thinking about Kennard/Gillotte)

There's a nice deal to be had there... #30+132 for #33+104 [214pts - 213pts on Rich Hill chart]. Gets the Bills 5 picks in the top 110.

I'm just thinking he's a Z playing behind Samuel. If you're going that direction, Chimere D1ke (seriously?) is bigger & faster, also returns punts and plays gunner too. Recall what McD said about "looking for guys for ST" again (blahh). Probably there in the 5th.

Valid... but I got me some sleepers I wanna nab with some of those 5th's

Watts was clearly BPA and not a roster hole so this is a lazy argument and 50% invalid from the get-go. Drafting for fit - not need - was the problem with the DL at #30. If you assume Amos and DT3T's were in a similar grade tier (many scouting sites say they are) then the tiebreaker is - positional value (CB >> DT3T), scarcity in the draft class (CB >> DT3T) and finally roster fit (CB >> DT3T). Even if you have Amos a tier below, those factors still are an influence weighing on the decision to draft him. I do agree with Burch among the listed options.