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This was a red flag for me in the offseason.

This is the first time I’ve seen anyone on here acknowledge this about that game. KC’s db’s were so bad they were tripping over themselves. Their gm realized this and restocked almost the whole defensive backfield with draft picks they got from the Tyreek Hill trade. Gotta give them credit for hitting on virtually all their picks. Allen was amazing in that game though. It would be nice to see that version of him again soon.

Mahomes may be having a down year statistically while KC’s receivers get acclimated but he isn’t costing his team games. That’s the difference. KC is not putting up offensive stats like previous years but they’re still playing sound winning football. That really is all that matters. Allen has made some bizarre decisions that have led to mistakes. I have no doubt that he will turn things around. But it’s too late this season to make a serious championship run while we wait for him to turn his game around. I also agree with Mikie that it started with the 2nd half of that GB game last year. Everything on offense hasn’t been the same since.

I heard comments on here this past offseason about how Allen will have more rings than Mahomes after 10 yrs. I just chuckled and thought please just get 1. Let’s get 1 and anything else is gravy.

He always does. It’s one of his many great attributes. Some fans, on the other hand, won’t even allow him to be accountable by pointing fingers everywhere else.

That guy is really pushy the ‘turnover worthy’ narrative. It’s not the same as actual turnovers. When I golf I don’t count my ‘birdies worthy’ putts. Otherwise my index would be much lower. lol

Right. And yours is Allen is doing great right now. Expecting your franchise elite qb to not make rookie mistakes is too much to ask in your book apparently. Hopefully that’s not the sentiment at OBD or this team will never win a championship.

After the disaster that was the last two games can Allen show up and be the better qb in this game? Let’s all hope so. Bills 24 Jets 12

I see what’s going now. You look at stats while I actually watch the games to see their ebbs and flows. No wonder we’re not seeing the same things. I didn’t realized Allen had an undefeated stranglehold over the Jets until that game. It’s not really apples and oranges between the two scenarios when you take the dominance into consideration. Anyway, we’re drifting further and further away from the crux. Which is Allen has played poorly thus far this season and that has affected the Bills chances of doing anything significant this year. This is my view. It’s ok if you or others don’t see the same thing. In the end we’re all getting the same results…another season goes by without a championship for the Bills. That I’m confident we can all agree on.

I think you missed my point. Allen is careless with the ball. Burrow is not. Allen has trouble reading defenses and throwing to the right guy. Burrow is a better processor and typically makes the correct read. These traits are why I think Burrow would win games where Allen cannot. You know…like the heads up games between them.

Yes I watched both those games. Let’s take a look back at how bad it really was for Mahomes. Against the Jets…KC jumped out to a 17-0 lead before Mahomes got uncharacteristically careless with the ball and let the Jets back in the game. However, he was able to make those typical Mahomes plays that got his team a win in the end. Against the Broncos…a division rival that Mahomes has never lost to prior including a win just two weeks ago. KC has beaten the Broncos 15 straight times! You don’t think the Broncos players wouldn’t put all their heart and soul into getting one over the Chiefs? Even with all that it took Mahomes visibly fighting a flu and Hardman muffing a punt at their 5 yd line for the Broncos to win. Even with the loss KC is still leading the conference. That’s why I was so confident in the Bills winning last night. Broncos had their personal SB against their biggest division opponent. They weren’t going to put in the same effort for the Bills. Then, of course, ints fumbles overall incompetence from everyone including Allen to give it to a Broncos team that didn’t even want to win up to the last missed fg. How was my recap? Did I missed anything? Have I made up any lies?

I watch all the games. In addition to being a fan I also like to wager on games so it necessitate watching as many games as I can. Not just Bills games. How would Mahomes or Burrow could’ve had this team at 8-2 this year? It’s all hypothetical obviously but let’s give it try. vs Jets. Those two guys would not have chucked up long balls senselessly after Rodgers went down. Win for Bills. vs NE. Not losing to Mac Jones of all people. Again being careless with the ball. Win for Bills. vs Den. At home against a mediocre team. Just make the sensible throws that guys like Peyton and Eli can see from TV yet Allen for some forsaken reason cannot on the field. Win for Bills. 3 losses that should’ve been wins makes it 8-2. Yeah Mahomes down season really has his team in a pickle huh. Burrow was injured early on. Looked what happened when he got healthy against Buffalo. Look we all know Allen is a great qb. He just isn’t playing that way right now. He’s making stupid mistakes and some fans just don’t want to see it. Stop saying so and so is having a down year too. Who cares. They don’t affect this franchise. Allen does.

Dorsey has his limitations no doubt. I was watching the game through Manning cast last night and time and again Peyton and Eli were saying ‘why wouldn’t Josh take the underneath stuffs’. They were available to him. Peyton yelled ‘no!’ when Allen made that pass to Harty before it was even intercepted. Those decisions were not on the OC regardless of who it is.

Sure keep thinking that about the Mahomes as he further distances himself from Allen on the accomplishment scale. Notice people in the media have stopped comparing them. As for Burrow… I’ve always thought Allen is better but now I’m not so sure. You can’t play like a rookie in your 6th year and expect to be ‘elite’.

Hard to make plays when your qb throws it to the guy covering you. Cincy game. If your qb keeps making boneheaded decisions it really doesn’t matter who’s calling the plays.

Look I know you’re a big defender of our guy. I, on the other hand, hold him accountable as an elite qb. So we’re going to naturally disagree a lot of times when it comes to Allen. But we both want the Bills to do well and they’re not at the moment. There’s a lot of blame to go around and I hope you’d see that Allen isn’t exempt from that. Now that Dorsey is gone and it looks like rock bottom for Allen and the team let’s hope he can rebound and salvage this season. Last night’s game was just too much. lol

Sure you can argue that. I can argue that Davis on KC’s offense with Mahomes could be a star. See how that works? Mahomes (or Burrow for that matter) doesn’t make many mistakes to hurt his team. That’s the big difference. There’s an important qb stat you’re leaving out. One guy is 7-2 while the other is 5-5. Which is better?

Man I’m steering clear of this topic. lol

Wouldn’t matter if your quarterback keeps throwing to the wrong guys.

Who does Mahomes have outside of Kelce that’s better than Davis? I agree Burrow has crazy weapons.

Throwing passes into triple coverage because he can’t seem to read defenses correctly has nothing to do with weapons. Stop giving our franchise qb passes. He needs to step up.

Mahomes or Burrow would have this team at 8-2 right now. They wouldn’t make the mistakes Allen is making this year.

Coaching matters alot. Players matters more. Take a look at Belicheck and Brady. Being in KC isn’t going to suddenly make Allen more driven and work harder at his game. Likewise, being in Buffalo would not turn Mahomes from a driven individual striving to be the best of all time to someone that can’t figure out defenses in his 6th season. Those traits are innate to each individual.

I got a lot of crap for saying this very same thing this offseason. But I still thought he’s #2 behind Mahomes. Now I’m not so sure. He’s not driven to be better. Burrow has established that he’s #2. Allen might be out of the top 3 qb’s conversation by the end of the season if he keeps playing like this.

Sure why not. Don’t care about interceptions as he’s throwing them to the other teams almost on a weekly basis. But it’s no big deal. I’m sure there’s no stats at all that supports losing the turnover battle in a game leads to losing games.