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I'll join you on your crusade. I'll add to what you said. Everyone's perfectly willing to give Beane & McD years to get things done despite minimal evidence that they know what they're even doing from a big-picture perspective, and players on our D and team elsewhere we're told need time, but Davis has one off season and they're willing to throw him overboard. And let's keep in mind that to date absolutely no one has defined what "The Process" actually is or how it works. Yet, we're willing to wait unforetold years to find out. LOL Meanwhile, in the playoffs, Diggs goes MIA in the biggest games that this team has, even to the extent that Davis outplays him in the last game vs. Cinci and KC each, and not a word about how maybe our $96M WR should be doing more than averaging 3 catches for 40 yards while being held scoreless in those games. I'm not saying ditch Diggs, but the discrepancy between how the two are treated is remarkable. In Diggs' first three NFL seasons he put up 2,472 Yards on 12.4 YPR and 15 TDs. Davis in his first three NFL seasons has put up 1,984 Yards on 16.8 YPR and 20 TDs. So yeah, let's get rid of him, he sucks. Diggs' in his first three seasons of playoffs put up 309 Yards on 22 catches for 14.0 YPR and 2 TDs. Davis in his first three seasons of playoffs put up 474 Yards on the same 22 catches for 21.6 YPR and 6 TDs. Yeah, he'll never amount to anything. Meanwhile, of all the WRs drafted along with Davis in '20, only one has scored more TDs, Jefferson. Hmmmm.... Only one drafted after him has caught for more yards, a marginal 65 yards/season, but with half the TDs, only 10. Mooney, in Chicago. Davis has caught more passes than 8 WRs drafted before him, has logged more Yards than 9 WRs drafted before him, and has more TDs than 14 (all but one) WR drafted before him. Yeah, he's hot garbage. LOL The irony is that IMO Beane hasn't done anything even average much less better in terms of his Drafts. But Davis was actually his best pick in his last four Drafts. Who's been better since 2019? Oliver? Debatable, but considering that Davis was 128th overall at the end of the 3th round contrasted with Oliver at 9th overall, top-10, there's no comparison.

The point wasn't about Beasley, you made it about Beasley. My statement about Beasley was a relative one. If you want to argue that McKenzie and Crowder were better, which is implicitly what you're doing, great, I'll quietly note that. It's a valid opinion although I do believe that the data is still on my side, whether Beasley is washed up or not. Thanks on the second sentence part. My primary point, so we agree there. As to your third part, thanks for sharing that. Unlike many other posters here I didn't watch every game that Harty played in. LOL In fact, I don't recall one, so I'm limited to data and youtube videos, which are typically highlights sans lowlights. We'll see what happens, but for five years now, also part of my original point implicitly, we've been treated to all kinds of statements by the team as to how the WRs that Beane has acquired were going to be the answer. None have other than Diggs, and Diggs has largely come up empty come playoff time, particularly against KC and Cinci despite playing 90% of the offensive snaps. (13 for 119, 0 TDs, 9.2 YPR) Avg. of 4 catches for 40 yards/game. If Harty is that WR, then Beane will have hit on a first.

OK, so back to my original point that you didn't like, go ahead them and name the slot WRs brought on by Beane then which we're good, which was the point. Since Beasley apparently was the worst, which were better? Don't go off on a tangent about Beasley. I'm all ears.

He's bordering on it. He did have a decent end of the season, and did better than any other slot WR we had, but you missed the overall point. Otherwise, on a per-snap basis he was about what Diggs and Davis were. Speaking of Diggs, he's been horrible in the playoffs other than for the Miami game. The thread is about unpopular opinions. I provided one. Not sure your point besides ad hominem. But I'll tell you what, bookmark it, next January throw it back out. Let's see where we stand. I can change it, ... Super Bowl here we come Baby!!! LOL

Yeah, sorry, I meant Crowder. My bad. Make the swap, point remains. Don't leapfrog it. We can do this same exercise for many positions. Addison & Murphy. Who knows WTH they were doing at DT. Beasley wasn't that washed, and they kicked him to the curb regardless. They could have negotiated him down at some point, they didn't even try until it became absurdly desperate. And funny how "Beasley's washed" but so many want OBJ. LOL Anyway, we'll see how Harty does. I'm not holding my breath that he'll move the needle.

The number of receivers we've brought on that were the answer is mindboggling. For slot only, McKenzie and Kumerow, now both unceremoniously gone. Meanwhile we kicked the best slot receiver we've had in years, and one of Allen's favorites, Beasley, to the curb. Now it's Harty.

At the same time next season, the majority opinion here will be that McD and Beane need to go. That's my unpopular opnion.

LOL at your first sentence. It really is. Agree on the rest, and being skepical to begin with, it's enough to make one wonder whether it's actually going to go down. One thing after another, what we're being told and have been told hasn't lined up, we presently have no lease to play in just four months, and some engineering site with info about the project states that work would begin mid-year. Someone here facetiously made a statement about the last "meeting" and approvals of the approvals etc. LOL I'll believe it when I see the heavy excavating equipment doing it's work. I'm sure that someone living around there will post pics once that happens. And where's Pegula on all of this? Sure, we all get it, Kim's in a bad way and that comes first, but it does make one wonder what's going through his mind, particularly since Kim/family does come first. When's the last time he said anything publicly about any of this, what, a year ago? I'm not one of those people that believes that if he were ever to sell the team that it would be bought by someone that would keep it in WNY, I don't care what anyone says about "clauses" and the like. NYS politics ... LOL

Whatever Beane chooses to do, his picks, particularly his 1st & 2nd rounders, need to contribute significantly this season. This would be a first for Beane if it happens.

Not true, others didn't get scorched on a regular ongoing basis like ours did. Cinci held three teams to 50 points total, including the Chiefs to 23 and 357 total yards. KC held Cinci to 20 pts. and 309 total yards, and their D wasn't nearly ranked as highly as ours. Last season the 17th ranked Cinci D held the chiefs to 24 points and 375 total yards to our 552, held the Rams to 23 and 313 total yards, and held their two other playoff opponents to 16 & 19 points. The Chiefs and their 8th ranked D held the Bengals to 27 adn 359 total yards. Disagree as you may, there's an big enough difference straight up, but when you consider all the bloat about us being a #1/#2 D, there's an even bigger discrepancy. And honestly, who on earth is defending our playoff defense? Seriously?

A couple of years ago everyone said the same with the signing of Diggs. As long as our defense keeps giving up around 40 PPG to teams in the D and CC rounds, we're not going anywhere.

Whoever it is, let's make sure that it's someone from Carolina. Their tenacious defense and inspiring playoff performances over the past five seasons is a standard to be brought her to Buffalo.

Well, looks like he's going to be around this season, it's his third, so let's hope he improves significantly. I don't think anyone needs rankings for him, we all saw how not-good he was. The extent to which he sucked can be discussed, but doesn't really matter at this point. On the flip side, after having done some research on Connor McGovern, he actually seems to be a good pick-up. Not sure about the contract relative to what else was there, but if he plays the way that he did last season, the left side, Dawkins, McGovern and Morse should be solid. Having said that, the Cowboys last year also faced a relatively weak schedule in terms of pass-rushing Ds, that will tighten up significantly given our opponents for this season, at least based upon last season's rankings. Nothin' we can do, kind of watching your kids go out and do things, gotta just see how this plays out for Beane. The Draft is what is either going to make or break Beane's future here. If his Draft is more of the same of what he's provided therein the last four years, he's not going to be here much longer. The performance of the team amidst an increasingly strengthening AFC East will be noticeable.

Right there to a T, the top-2 reasons. That cannot possibly be understated. The lack of divisional beating perennially that other teams were not subjected to is huge. The number of different starting QBs that went thru Buffalo, NY, and Miami during that stretch were 29 Buffalo (9), Miami (11), and the Jets (9). Fitzpatrick played for all three teams, he counts three times therefore. Otherwise, the three had 20 different total coaches among them during Brady's tenure. The Jets are the only team that went to the playoffs with any regularity. Miami made it three times but lost in the WC round every time. We only went in '17 and '19, also losing both times in the WC round. We're seeing what Belichick would have been without Brady right now. He's employing the same team-building strategy. It's still on his high end for career coaching w/o Brady, and he's got all that experience from the Brady years too. I don't give him the credit that others do. Had Mo Lewis not knocked Bledsoe into the Twilight Zone, Belichick would have likely continued to ride Bledsoe, who was already 5-13 with him at the time, into the next team as a DC probably. For that reason I hate Mo Lewis.

I'm still waiting for a four-year signing off an above-average OL-man. Morse has been the only one on Beane's watch.

This was from the last series of articles following that last meeting of whomever, that came out about a week ago. https://www.wkbw.com/news/local-news/new-buffalo-bills-stadium-plans-move-forward-construction-begins-this-year#:~:text=The new Buffalo Bills stadium,new president of the corporation. The Bills plan to start work in April, such as putting up fences. The goal is for shovels to hit the ground in June and complete the project by 2026. Someone formally referred to the work to begin in June as the "big digging." Again, originally when these talks began, they were supposed to have the "big digging" this past November. If it doesn't happen in June then they're approaching lapping themselves.

Originally they were supposed to break ground in November of 22. Then it got pushed back "a little," then yes, they said March, and more recently they said they'll start milling around and staring at the property soon, probably with hardhats and clipboards, to get everyone excited. They may even plant a porta-potty at the flag at the "50." Now it's June when the "big digging" will begin. Come May it'll be in November again. Next February there'll be a hologram of it. Be advised if you go in and use the restrooms. Last article they put out said that the "big digging" would begin in June. Not sure I believe that, but that's what it said. They said they'd be doing some other stuff prior to then, but they didn't say what specifically, but it wasn't any kind of significant digging.

It'll diminish significantly one he's not as fast or agile as well. That'll be long before he's 39. At some point if he's going to continue to be a top QB, it's going to be more as a pocket passer, and how good he is then will be impacted by how good of an OL he's got in front of him. All of this also assumes that he doesn't get seriously injured due to his high-risk style of play.

I don't know when you were there last, but Phoenix has tripled in geographic size in 30 years. Is it that much less humid in Phoenix as in Vegas? Both are desserts.

Yeah, no doubt. Phoenix has exploded too. Also, the wings there used to be better to. They were notably better before Sally Smith took over and made it corporate. They were OK for a while after that but they've gone downhill considerably since. I mostly make my own. Anytime I go out I regret it. I don't live anywhere near WNY anymore.

Roger that. People elsewhere complain about them.

I'd been to one back in the 90s. Pretty cool dive bar. The chain struggled and nearly went under. A Sally Smith turned it around which is when Buffalo Wild Wings was born. You in the restaurant biz?

I was being somewhat facetious. But in NE when he was on the field, nearly a 50% chance he got the carry, 1 in 2. I don't see that diminishing here this season since he's not the best receiving RB. In contrast, when Singletary was on the field, 25% chance that he got the carry, 1 in 4. I'm curious to see how he does behind our OL which isn't as good as what he had in NE. His strength is rushing, but Singletary behind our line, and with 70 more carries, average 4.6 YPC while Harris only averaged 4.4 behind a notably better OL. Singletary also hasn't missed any games due to injury, Harris has. And since when are we trusting our coaching staff to know when/how to run the ball? If anything they've proven the opposite. At times when the running game was dominating they've abandoned it in favor of Allen & passing. It's mindboggling at times. I'm not sure that this will be an upgrade. We'll find out. See above

Who when he steps onto the field the opposing D will pretty much know it's a running play. LOL

Great point! But that goes hand in hand with the notion that NYS has been chasing those very businesses, while ensuring that others never come, due to their ridiculously high taxes. In short, file under never going to happen.