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I get why people insist on saying this but the reality is its nonsense for the Bills anyway (maybe not for Chiefs and Eagles who see a lot of Superbowls) 1 seeds, division winner etc - let's be honest it's going to be decided on 1 game - maybe in the Bills favour, maybe not. But it will be 1 game. And the ones now are worth just as much as the ones in December. Competent passing offence sees 7-0 or 6-1 right now - ahead of the harder schedule. And a solid path to the 1 seed. We have a shambles of a record on the road under post season McD, so home advantage is almost a must. And we have an injury prone roster who need the week off. Lastly, even if it was unimportant, it's quite the stretch to just say "I'm sure the Bills will just turn it on when needed in the playoffs."

Yes - and using eyes instead. In the high leverage moments it is failing much more than it is working. Or at the very least has been going backwards. Baltimore Q4 - yep, after being poor for most of the game Jets - passable Dolphins - passable Saints - messy Pats game - nope Falcons game - nope Carolina - not used much or needed, but what we saw wasn't great.

Hilarious only if you are restricted to "we could only have selected a receiver then" The hilarious part is the overall use of resources and the results of it in terms of who can help the team right now. Just as an option, get a known serviceable edge player or a failed project in free agency rather than Jackson, don't spend the Palmer money or the Samuel money or the Moore money - and actually draft a higher level receiver or trade for someone you know is actually good. At any point in the last 2 years once it was clear Diggs was done here!!! Not a tight end you think might be good (he is nowhere near worth the trade up pick, multiple later drafted tight ends have outperformed him), not a slow receiver you think might be good in 2 years, not an edge who might be good in 2 years - an actual damn receiver who can win us games right now.

Good. Then find it. They seemed to find it for the succession of jags and sick notes they signed in free agency over the past couple years They found goddamn $12m for Josh Palmer who has never been past 600 yards in his whole career 🤯🤯🤯

DJ Moore is who we should be making a call on. Too much smoke around the Saints guys, prices will rise Moore on the outside at the Bears, they have drafted Odunze and Loveland and Burden high - must be a chance they would consider moving the guy who is the ex WR1 there?

Daaaaamn!!! This chart makes him look like a young DK Metcalf in the making 🤣 But confused by this though - who can explain? DK is definitely quick, so why such low separation in man coverage? Sterling Shepard doesn't look quick, very decent separation. In a way this seems positive if you really really squint - it must be possible to improve the technical part of creating separation (Keon won't get much quicker I assume) He also has a decent YPRR - if he could just get to "below average" as a separator he could more up and right towards BTJ and Tet McMillan area? Or is this the whole point? Some guys just can't / don't separate? In that case, can we look at the scheme? I definitely see DK open and catching the ball and he also can't/doesn't separate? So they must have been finding ways to get him open all these years? Or that just means he is only doing it against Zone coverage?

Fair play, I'll assume you are right 👍🏽 In that case, we need to remove that point and simplify the fundamental to what is must in the case be - McD is always a step or two behind Reid when it matters. And Beane is leaving us short on talent. The result is the same - find someone who might be a step ahead, or even better stomp on his flipping walrus head.

Some really good and fair points by @GunnerBill and @folz - i do love an impassioned defence! But its going to be tough for people to swallow that there arent issues with the fundamentals of the scheme when year after year we watch dbs standing 10 yards off and being picked apart in the games that matter. I totally get that we are (used to be?) elite against Mac Jones and Bo Nix and whichever other rookie or JAG we play in the wildcard round. But the standard now is SB - fair nor not - and to do that you need to beat the big boys - Mahomes, Burrow, Lamar We have beaten the Ravens twice, absolutely true - and first half last year the D really does deserve credit for bringing out play off Lamar, fair! But almost every single other one of those games, including the second half of that Ravens game we just sit off, allowing ourselves to be picked off by guys we know are good enough to pick us off - and quite famously, managed to make the Chiefs look like a 30 point offence for the first time in about 2 years! This is the very definition of a fundamental issue - because its the same damn issue every single year. As an added bonus, it takes wild amounts of time off the clock at key parts of the game - when 17's greatest value is when he gets in a groove and just goes to work with run and pass. To put it another way - what do you rate the odds of the following scenario? The sky is in fact not falling, Bills get back on track and finish something like 12-5, steamroller some punk 7th seed on wildcard weekend - and then lose to Mahomes or Rogers in a divisional or AFCC game where they complete 30+ passes without taking much risk at all, Josh gets us to within 3 points, but we lose because a third rate wide receiver cant make a catch whilst James Cook watches on forlornly from the sideline, and we all complain that it would have been so different if Benford and Milano had just managed to stay out there? We were unlucky because Josh only got 7 possessions? Because i rate the chances somewhere around 90% 😂😂 We just want to see something different - play man, go no huddle, hurry them up, blitz - whatever - just something different than going there with the exact same !@#$ing plan hoping to win by 3 and ending up just short. Because these guys have a long proven track record in the biggest games of all of doing exactly that! The most fair bit of it is lack of talent - Beane has ultimately failed to find elite talent for the most part. Its shocking overall the last few years. That missing talent on both sides of the ball has really handicapped the ceiling available to the coaching staff - that is absolutely fair. And at this point it is clear Sean cant make lemonade. So go get someone who might know the recipe.

I don't know that anyone is arguing against that. The argument is that he has topped out with this team (maybe as far back as 13 seconds, maybe last year). Either way confidence is low that he is suddenly going to take the last steps. The scaredy cat soft zone and insistence on game manager ball control offence - even I would agree it guarantees us 7/10 performance for years on end - but is there a ceiling? THE ceiling? Plenty of us think not. It's a perfectly respectable position to take based on what we have seen.

We can notice it - but will we make a gameplan to take advantage of it? I haven't seen that from Brady, I haven't seen any cohesive, in structure pass game that can beat teams for a long while. In fact it doesn't really even look like he thinks about the opposition weakness at all - he just has a plan that he is going with. We can run it, and amazingly well at times to be fair, but there isn't much behind that - other than "Josh might be amazing" Fair or not fair? Would love someone to give me some confidence in the plan, but it's the same ***** every week

Slightly disagree -;as one of the people doing the bitching - I also think we will win 10-11 games. Because the standard around the NFL is low right now. The two are not mutually exclusive. Baller Beane also hated people bitching. And he has been proven wrong. Again and again and again. I won't argue with people who want to call it bitching, doesn't mean we're wrong though 🤷🏽‍♂️ Have a look at a Falcons games before or after last week - and seriously tell me the Bills coaching and preparation is up to standard? Hard, hard disagree on that. Have a look at other "SB contenders" and think we have similar numbers of elite talent as them? Hard disagree on that too. 17 will always win 10+ games, he's an all time baller - doesn't mean the coaching and front office isnt short changing the Bills on the best possible results year after year with their vanilla outlook on coaching and roster construction.

So you are a fan. And others are "fans" and a "sh1tshow" and potentially beneath you. Because you are positive and they are negative about the overall prospects. Doesn't matter, nothing to see here, Bills are A1, support the boys or move out the way. Ok, top fan, congrats 👍🏽

How about they suspend whichever clown threw the laundry on that last PI?!

Man if we lose this game to a very decent Panthers teams, can you been imagine how many of their team will end up at the Bills in the next 2-3 years!?!! The pipeline shall overflow!! 🤣 We won't lose though, McBeane fanboys will proclaim all is fixed and stay in cloud cuckoo land until the playoffs when they will sidle up and join the rest of us who have known for about 3 years now that this coach and scheme and player acquisition team is a total fricking waste of time

Yet another night of all the classic excuses being rolled out - and a section of fans who just cant seem to quit believing them or quoting them or just generally repeating these trash talking points: We face Cover 2 all the time so we HAVE to play underneath - name any other offence anywhere in the top 24 of the NFL that has no deep threat whatsoever? That when the game comes down to it, do not actually have a functioning pass offence* Cook cant pass block - name any other offence anywhere in the top 24 of the NFL that has only 1 upper tier skill player and takes them off the field in crunch time. Seriously just one. Play design was good, just a bit off on execution, it will be fine next week - name any other offence anywhere in the top 24 of the NFL whose most difficult down and distance is ***** 3rd and 1 / 3rd and 2 - ffs, run a sneak, first down, move on The Bills offence is historically good since Brady, 30 points yadda yadda - use your damn eyes. There is no passing offence. It doesn't exist beyond 5 yards to Kincaid and prayers to Coleman when all else is lost. Never had it so good, remember the drought - this one is so ***** stupid, i wont bother Beane drafted Allen, he is a baller - just look at the last 2 drafts and free agency - jesus wept! I mean seriously, its pathetic. Never mind, they will be good in year 4 of being here, just before we overpay another 6.5/10 player Something has to change!!!! *ignore which muppet comes and says what about Baltimore last 4 minutes - that is not a ***** plan. And what about all the other games

Chargers look cooked with both tackles out and now both RBs also, Hampton was starting to look good. Herbert and receivers good enough to remain competitive, but losing to the Giants and being trashed by the Commanders suggests a much lower ceiling than it looked like. Broncos look legit, so I reckon KC as 5 seed, which lines up for playing them in the Divisional at home. Again. *Other things may happen in the remaining 13 weeks of the season

Been injured for weeks. Still a good shout to make the roster as seemed to be playing well before then. Unless Ciarlo is taking his spot!!

Nailed it. Over the Chiefs. Scoring after getting the ball 2 points behind with 12 seconds to go

I'm with all the people getting flamed here. It's year after year with no high end production from the top picks. And there are PLENTY of others who have managed it. And it is needed to get teams over the top. Fair play to the amazing fans replying who laugh in the face of such commentary - it will be the exact same posters moaning about it in week 9, without admitting it. The reality is over the past 3 or 4 years we have got a bit of Kincaid in year one to show for high end rookie production, and maybe Cyrus at guard. It's not effective from that point of view at all. Worthy and DeJean and Quinyon say hi from the Superbowl. McConkey, Wiggins, BTJ, Chop Robinson, Sainristil, Lassiter, Bullock - so many immediate producers in the exact positions we need them. So too Porter Jr, LaPorta, Branch and Gonzalez from the year before. No top 10 picks, just immediate producers in those top 50 picks. In fairness, what is definitely true is that the Bills get production in maybe year 2/year 3 - so we should probably be looking at Coleman / Kincaid/ Bishop for where it needs to come from rather than the rookies. We are either not good at evaluating it, or taking players who need a years work before they can play. The Bills also have a REALLY good record with later picks, which is to their credit for sure. but it's totally understandable that a good number of fans would be frustrated that there is nothing that just gets drafted and immediately improves a team that only needs a bit to push it over the top. Top 2 picks seem to fall very far short of what you see elsewhere. I'm sure it annoys the Bills just as much - but it doesn't explain this group of fans who seem to feel denying it makes them better fans. laughing like internet idiots at people who question the repeated failure to draft any immediate production. Failure to draft a single elite player at a premium position in the past 4 years. The truth is the truth.

One of the Packers WRs is doing it right now i think -Bo Melton. No idea how it is going, but he got a few hundred yards as a WR, so he wasnt a total nothing in that position

Cook was nowhere near the player of last year in his first 2 seasons. Surely Davis could improve? In any case Cook will be forced to play this year whatever happens, so the actual alternative is Davis in year 3 + a drafted speed back (for example) or an FA back next year. Not sure it would be that far off what Cook provides in the aggregate. Good player for sure, great last year in fact, but there is some severe overrating going on with this guy. Or to put it another way the extra dollars on WR or Edge have the potential for a bigger talent upgrade than the seeming downgrade at RB Agree with you in the pass game - need to see it to believe it.

Want to agree. But then again feels like we are always one game short of that oh so handy 1 seed / bye - so I'm going to go ahead and treat it like a playoff game 😂

I mean they didn't, you are right. But if Hairston was going into year 4 and it was the ACL like everyone thought? I think we can all at least see what Cook is worried about, even if we don't agree

Fair. Albeit a very small sample size. Plenty good things that could be found through the season from those 2 though. And Cook would be replaced by someone, so that's more on top. Says something about what the Bills think of Cook that he wasnt on the field, despite playing well. Not saying they were right, but it gives a certain insight on where they are at

Seems presumptuous, I mean these are real people too 😂 But yes, it's the first such situation during my time supporting the Bills for sure and interesting to see how it pans out. Annoying, but interesting nonetheless. Across the whole league and all the positions, I guess the average result here is that they meet at a compromise that looks something like 40/3 with an out after 2 years - unless either Cook or the Bills are dug in (to max money or not paying RBs respectively)