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Jets will be a top defense but not even the best defense in the league this year, let alone the 85 bears. The Niners are far and away the best this year and they added Javon Hargrave somehow. Plus they get 4 weeks off to pad their stats against the cardinals and rams while they’re actively tanking. Lol

I figured this is what you meant too. We are aligned. I hope we are wrong but I fully expect everyone in the game thread on Monday to be screaming at our o line while josh is running around crazy to avoid free rushers and Spencer brown continues to whiff. Probably going to be a lot of “why isn’t anyone getting home and hitting Rodgers” too.

Our O line is better than theirs, at least on paper. My issue is that I trust their o line to handle our d line more than I trust our o line to handle theirs if that makes sense. We don’t have dogs on our d line without Von that take advantage of bad o lines. I expect Rodgers to have a frustrating amount of time to hit targets while I’m just hoping Josh’s elbow remains in tact this time around against them.

This. I keep hearing 12 personnel but “you are what the defense plays you as.” You run 12 to try to get the defense to match you and then you exploit that from an offensive standpoint. Problem is that Kincaid isn’t a great blocker and we are a passing team so teams are going to still play nickel until we come out of our comfort zone. Every time josh turns around and hands it off, that’s a win already for the defense and a loss for us. Unless we decide to become a run heavy team, no reason for the jets to come out of nickel. Just because we put 2 TEs out there, doesn’t mean teams have to match that way until we prove we can change our ways. Someone said we need to run quicker and shorter routes and while that sounds good in theory, how do we do that? Diggs is going to be doubled, and sauce has Gabe. Gabe isn’t any good in the short area of the field anyways. So Kincaid has to win his matchup and cook needs to be involved too in some capacity. Jets always gives josh problems. They kill our o line with just 4 and then take Diggs away. That’s how we always lose in the playoffs too. Kincaid and cook have to be huge in order for us to win.

How are they “too talented” other than an aging stafford, hurt kupp, and a 1 man defense? Go look at their roster. I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a team with more UDFAs, etc. Go look at their schedule, they’re likely to start 2-8 at best before they get to play the other team tanking in Arizona. I think kupp and stafford get shut down after that. As someone else mentioned, there’s more than 1 qb in this draft and the rams actually finally have a 1st rounder this year so they got their chance now to replace stafford.

Couple thoughts.. Thank God he’s going to an NFC team where no other quality QBs seem to exist outside of Hurts. It’s incredible the bad luck we’ve had where we get our QB finally and then so does every other AFC power. Arizona announced they were tanking at the draft in April with that genius trade with Houston. They get 2 bites at the #1 pick with that move. They really could get Caleb and Harrison Jr. Kyler isn’t playing this year. They’ll trade him for sure but NBA teams do this too.. sit your best player and tank. Kyler will cost them losses so you can’t play him. He’s a bum anyways. The rams will try to lose also so I don’t think we’ll see much of kupp this year either. Their problem is they have to play Arizona twice this year and someone has to win. Unfortunately for them Arizona is just worse, but not by much. This is also why if you haven’t put money on the Niners at +10.5 wins, you’re throwing money away. They have their bye week plus essentially 4 more byes built in with their auto-wins against 2 teams actively tanking.

Exactly. It’s a Reddit joke

This is hilarious. He’ll be signed back to the Niners by the end of the week. His best chance to win a ring is with them. They budgeted for him. Chris Jones and Christian Wilkins will all do the same.

Doesn’t mean he’s good

Best LT, best RB, stud WRs, top TE, best DE and MLB in football. Stud corner in award and safety in Hufanga. Not to mention Hargrave and Armstead on in IDL. No one else has that many blue chippers.

And don’t forget lighting his 3rd rounders on fire every year with garbage like Bernard.

Shanahan (and lynch) also has the best roster in the league by a MILE. He also worked deals to get the best LT and RBs in the league for pennies compared to their worth.

It’s amazing that teams don’t simply tag 1 guy to follow Kelce around and then shade to him as well. Instead you think it’s good to simply leave him wide open? You forget he was on the field and Mahomes looks to him every time? Jesus. The part that really angers me is look at that pocket for Mahomes. Notice he’s not running for his life as soon as the ball is snapped. One team prioritizes their QB, the other doesn’t. Unreal.

Also because we don’t prioritize offensive line play unfortunately

This. Imagine the shape our team and roster would be in if we had made the same mistake.

They didn’t lose their qB. They also lost their backup QB too. Fair criticism. No doubt he blew the Falcons game. I’ll never forgive him for that either. Giving Brady another undeserved ring. Hard to lay the chiefs game on him. Defense caved against Mahomes and Jimmy missed an open pass to win the game.

Blown out? They didn’t have a QB in that game. Their defense actually held Hurts down quite a bit too. Don’t just read the final score. Context matters. What would be the score if we played the eagles with no qb? Bosa will sign this week and it’ll be fine. He wouldn’t be playing in the preseason anyways. No lose? They gave up a 4th for a 3rd string QB. Dak already was being questioned now there are just more headlines after this trade everytime Dak throws a pick. Horrible trade by them.

Lol in a manner of speaking as far as defending them goes. Giving CMC to KS is unfair. Like giving a mad scientist another tool to cook up evil formulas. Best weapons in the league plus the best offensive mind outside of Andy Reid. We haven’t even hit on their defense yet which is tops in the league too and added freakin Javon Hargrave too.

They’re not looking to get deep. They’re all YAC monsters. Everything KS draws up is with the intent to get open quick (which they always do), then hit the open guy and let him go to work. You miss the tackle and they might house it, Deebo especially. Disagree on Aiyuk. He’s a great route runner and does everything well. You can’t compare the weapons Fitz had to what Purdy has either. One was playing with a butter knife for a weapon, the other has machine guns.

Because he also has built the best roster in the NFL by a sizable margin.

But he’s not. Once they added McCafferey, it was over. They now have 4 elite guys that can do it all, most notably get YAC. Who are these “good defenders” that can stick with a man for 3 seconds? Let alone stick with 4 elite men? Add in that KS schemes them open in 2 seconds and it’s not really possible. Use us as the example. Even if you think Tre can stick with Deebo (which is debateable), who takes Aiyuk? Dane? Elam? Please. Who takes kittle? Milano could stay with him some I guess but it’s tough. And are you asking Taron Johnson to stick with McCafferey? Good luck. And after you spend all that energy trying to match up, they can all run block, and now they gashed you for 40 yards. It’s tough. We’re not built to be anywhere near them. And you say well the chiefs can do it. Well yeah but Mahomes and Reid are a different story. The Bengals too. They have weapons and they play tough. We have 1 true weapon and we are finesse. If I seem frustrated it’s because I am. Niners got CMC for pennies based on how good he is. Beane should’ve given Josh that type of weapon. Instead we have given him Diggs and that’s it. Maybe Kincaid breaks out but he’s a rookie.

100%. Their roster is light years ahead of ours too. It’s the best in the nfl actually. Coaching is way better too. At a minimum they’re making the NFC title game and I already bet them to win the Super Bowl too.

I would’ve been FURIOUS if we gave up a 4th for him. If a QB can’t succeed in SF in that simple system where every throw is wide open, then they’re just not going to succeed.

Niners fleeced the cowboys here. A 4th for a 3rd string QB who no one else wanted? And he’s maybe 3rd string at best now on the cowboys. And you gave up a 4th?!

It’s 100% both Yep they invest in the lines. Broderick Jones and Seumalo. Added Benton on the D line who can step right in for Heyward probably when he’s gone.